American Pledge?

It's said in my kids' schools. I don't know why people think it isn't. Last year at my daughter's spring concert, they did the Armed Forces medley and this older man next to me was saying "that is so wonderful, I thought they didn't do these songs anymore". I was about to say "WHO told you they weren't?"
Facebook. I mean it’s a popular meme so it must be true right? :rolleyes: Drives me batcrap crazy that people just blindly post memes they don’t even bother to look into and shaves off a chunk of respect for the poster each and every time I come across one.

Pledge is said here daily in public school. Always has been. Events as well and the National Anthem sung.
 
To answer the question in the OP I don't know if it's still said in schools in my area but I'll assume it is.

I did grow up saying the pledge in elementary school but I don't think it was said everyday in middle nor high school.
 
I grew up saying the pledge to the U.S. flag and when I was in christian school...to the christian flag.

I have no further comment at this time other than I recently saw a video from Reuters about an increase in Japanese nationalism and the effort of some to return to their glory days of a stronger military (at least). They also highlighted how they have kids in a special nationalist school where they have to pledge to the Japanese flag and sing their national anthem, something which isn't really done in most of Japan anymore.

Perspective means a lot.
 


Out of all of the states, a pledge to Texas is the only one that makes at least a tiny bit of sense, as it was its own country for a brief time.
 


I never understood this. How can you be proud of something you had no say in? It was random that you were born in a specific state. It’s like saying you’re proud to have blue eyes..you had no say in it

I had no say in what country I was born either, yet I'm proud to be an American.

I think it's a bit ingrained in US students to be proud of their states. In most states, I think students study their state history as part of the state curriculum. In 8th grade, we had a whole year of our state history.

But I don't go around saying my state's pledge.

Oh, & I'm happy to have blue eyes too!
 
I work in an elementary school and we say the pledge and sing the national anthem every morning to start our day.
 
IDK. I'd say the same thing about O Canada. If you were born in Canada you had no choice and yet you say the pledge/said the pledge growing up.

I'll admit it seems on the surface odd for specific states to have their own pledges but I already know my mindset on this topic (based on other threads) is different than yours :)

We don’t have a pledge at all. We listened to O Canada and recited the Lords Prayer. I am glad that I’m from Canada but I had nothing to do with living here.
 
Despite my aunt's constant facebook posts claiming it isn't, the Pledge of Allegiance has been said every day at every school I've been at during my 35 years as a teacher.

That's been my family's experience as well, though after elementary school it tends to be less often that every kid actually joins in. Which is as it should be, because the Supreme Court decided in West Virginia v. Barnette (319 US 624 (1943) that no student may be forced to recite it or punished for failing to recite it. (Barnette has been challenged several times since 1943, but every challenge has failed, making it still the law of the land.)

(If you want to read about the history of school Pledge challenges, which I will not discuss in detail here, please see https://constitutioncenter.org)
 
My younger son does it at his school - not sure about the older one (new school this year, not too familiar with it yet..)
 
We don’t have a pledge at all. We listened to O Canada and recited the Lords Prayer. I am glad that I’m from Canada but I had nothing to do with living here.
Ok correction you say your country's national anthem.

Your comment on this thread was

Growing up, we always did O Canada and the Lords Prayer at the start of the day. Obviously, the prayer is no longer said.

Your subsequent comment was

I never understood this. How can you be proud of something you had no say in? It was random that you were born in a specific state. It’s like saying you’re proud to have blue eyes..you had no say in it

If you were born in Canada you had no choice and yet you say the national anthem/said the national anthem growing up. That's not any different IMO than someone saying a pledge of a state they were born into.
 
We all stood and had to say the pledge in Catholic grammar school. I really don't remember what was done in public junior high.

In high school homeroom, we heard the pledge being recited by the nerds in the A.V. club during the morning announcements. I only recall one year when the homeroom teacher made us stand during the recitation.

I don't recall an actual flag being present in the classrooms, at least not a flag on a pole standing upright in the corner. Maybe a flag was above the classroom door, or perhaps a poster of the flag.

I don't know what it was like when my kids were in school. They never mentioned it and I never asked.
 
It is still said here daily in all classrooms (K-12) in the public schools, as well as at many school functions including PTA meetings, school board meetings, concerts, and graduations.

When I was growing up, it was followed by a moment of silence intended for silent prayer. Not sure if they still do that (probably not). I remember in high school, being told that we didn’t “have to” recite the pledge, but we had to stand up and face the flag out of respect.
 
Ok correction you say your country's national anthem.

Your comment on this thread was



Your subsequent comment was



If you were born in Canada you had no choice and yet you say the national anthem/said the national anthem growing up. That's not any different IMO than someone saying a pledge of a state they were born into.


I’m not saying that I didn’t sing the anthem. I still do at any public event where it’s sung. I’m saying I don’t understand the concept of being proud of something you have no control over. It’s like me saying I’m proud my name is Kim. I didn’t contribute in any way to make me proud of that fact.

I can be proud to be Canadian because I stayed here but why would I be proud I was born here? I had nothing to do with it.
 
I’m not saying that I didn’t sing the anthem. I still do at any public event where it’s sang. I’m saying I don’t understand the concept of being proud of something you have no control over. It’s like me saying I’m proud my name is Kim. I didn’t contribute in any way to make me proud of that fact.

I can be proud to be Canadian becauae I stayed here but why would I be proud I was born here? I had nothing to do with it.
Respectfully, like I said I know my viewpoint is different based on knowing how you feel about things from previous threads :-)

Maybe that's a good idea for a spin off thread: "Why would any person be proud of a state or in your case province that they were born into" :D
 

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