queue jumpers and pushy people ...

[mulan1]

I'm with you Tessa!
It really is a bit much to wait for a long time only to have some inconsiderate people come and push in front of you for the parade.
If I do see queue jumpers though I will certainly speak up, I really don't like it when such people are just tolerated, because then they think they can get away with anything, or maybe worse things in other areas of their lives...
sorry
It's just that I know a very dirty doormat

 

[giuly09]

The only particularly guilty mob seemed to be the Italians, for some reason. They were very bad at the Parade at when waiting to meet characters. However they were also very bashful if you said "Excusez Moi" loudly....

Sorry but as Italian i have to say my opinion.
I would not say *ALL* italians do like that but just the nasty ones that you could find anywhere in every nation or continent.
I live in a touristic town and i see everyday nice and nasty people from everywhere, i dont push people and usually i let kids in front of me watching events without asking from where they are.

 

[Bexx]

just the nasty ones that you could find anywhere in every nation or continent.

That's absolutely true Giulia If there is a nation of perfect people anywhere, I'd be most interested to know about it

 

[Cyrano]

I would not say *ALL* italians do like that but just the nasty ones that you could find anywhere in every nation or continent.

I agree Each nationality has the dubious honour of having a minority that does little to represent the interests of their kin.

But everyone on the DLP of course is above this

 

[Ware Bears]

But everyone on the DLP of course is above this

Of course!

 

[lostinwonderland]

We witnessed quite a bit of pushing..

Mainly it's when characters are involved, I actually saw a child being shoved to the floor, which frankly is disgraceful.. Some characters seemed to have it under control, yesterday "Stitch" made the kids stand back and then called them over one by one, and "Eeyore" ignored a girl that had pushed through and grabbed him.. But mainly it's a bit nasty, because a lot of people push in and push people out of the way and stuff....

People pushed in in the toilets aswell... lol... There'd be a queue and people would just walk down to the front, someone would say something they'd just carry on...

There was people trying to push in the rides aswell, it seemed silly to annoy so many people just to try and get just a few places ahead... The worse case of this was on space mountain, when about 10 teenage boys decided to push through, there was a bit of a long queue, people were telling them to stop and just get in the queue because we're all waiting, me and russell put our arms on the rails, and they just shoved them out the way... When we got to the stairs and it splits into two and they realised that the our queue was going to get on quicker than the one they were in they decided to try and push through again we were trying no to let them which was easier as it was narrower, but they kept tapping me and laughing and stuff... It was a really unpleasant experiance... But it was the only one that was that bad...

But on the way home, quite a few people were complaining of ignorance and queue jumping... I think you've just got to accept that it happens and just don't let it ruin your time...

 

[Mike Jones]

What in heaven's name are the CMs doing while all this is going on?

 

[Architect]

What in heaven's name are the CMs doing while all this is going on?

Agreed.

I do find that the build of a former rugby forward and a broad, menacing Scottish accent (even in French) solved all our queue jumping problems. But that's probably not open to most of you chaps.

As it happens we also found that many of the characters were quite good at ignoring kids that had barged in and so on. But in fact the parents tended to be worse than the kids.

 

[Bexx]

What in heaven's name are the CMs doing while all this is going on?

I read this recently on the magicforum

"Guest behaviour in and around the hub during parades and fireworks is atrocious, and not enough is done to enforce the rules.

In defence of the CMs, however, it can be truly dispiriting to see a bunch of guests trampling the flower beds, ask them (politely yet firmly) to return to the pavement, and receive nothing but blank stares, laughs or, worse still, a (very rude word) for your troubles. Trust me, I've worked as a CM in these situations plenty of times, and we eventually had to resort to ganging up on the guests to get them to move. Sheer force of numbers is one of the only things they'll listen to. Even then, as soon as we turned our backs, many of the guests would simply hop straight back over the fences and the cycle would begin all over again. After two weeks of this, it's tempting to give up."

So I don't think the CMs always ignore bad behaviour because they can't be bothered, but it would seem they sometimes have their work cut out!!

 

[Architect]

So as to avoid getting complaints, I will merely point out that (as anyone who's been waiting on a ski-lift can testify) certain European countries do not really seem comfortable with the concept of queuing. Unfortunately if it's not nipped in the bud by the CMs, it only encourages others to do the same.

 

[Mike Jones]

So I don't think the CMs always ignore bad behaviour because they can't be bothered, but it would seem they sometimes have their work cut out!!

... I always remember my first time in MGM florida, when we were in line for ToTerror (before we 'discovered' Fastpass, LOL!).. some teen lads cut under the chain between two 'loops' of the line, bypassing about twenty guests. Withi a minute, two suited, minder-type CMs appeared and escorted them from the ride (possibly the park?).. surely the answer in DLRP is to eject people who break the rules, and impose a Zero tolerance approach? A season of this and they'd have no trouble again...

 

[Architect]

surely the answer in DLRP is to eject people who break the rules, and impose a Zero tolerance approach? A season of this and they'd have no trouble again...

Agreed.

 

[esk]

When we were there last month, we saw quite a bit of line jumping. It wasn't from any one nationality, it was pretty much everyone....but the vast majority were teenagers.

I don't have anything against teenagers (I was one, once upon a time) but I never would have behaved like these did. In line for Small World, one (large) girl stepped on my foot in her haste to shove my 2 year old aside and I kicked her She looked at me and we didn't speak the same language, but my entire 5 feet of self were not pleased and she quickly jumped several more people. Other times they simply pushed past us and kept going right to the front...try explaining to your 5 and 2 year olds why we have to wait for the carousel when those people don't. We saw line jumping for almost everything and for the characters, it was horrible. Strangely, though, everyone stayed in their queues for food.....

In defense of the CMs, the line jumping occurred way back in the sort of "cattle call" areas of the rides, before you get to the "snake" barriers, so the CMs wouldn't be able to see it.

One also terrible example....Perla the Mouse was doing a meet and greet in front of the castle. This awful child (girl, about 10 years old) put a rolled up wrapper or some other trash IN PERLA'S MOUTH. Now mind you, the person in there can't see that but knows something is there. She tried to take it out but her costume fingers were too large. Then the child, laughing and posing for the camera, puts her hand up to Perla's mouth again....Perla slapped it away fast, and turned the child away from her and gave her a little push. The CM minder didn't see all this, because she was trying to hold back the crowd. Again, what really bothered me here, was that this child was laughing and posing for pictures while doing it. A small child could make this mistake, but not one that old.

 

[mulan1]

One also terrible example....Perla the Mouse was doing a meet and greet in front of the castle. This awful child (girl, about 10 years old) put a rolled up wrapper or some other trash IN PERLA'S MOUTH. Now mind you, the person in there can't see that but knows something is there. She tried to take it out but her costume fingers were too large. Then the child, laughing and posing for the camera, puts her hand up to Perla's mouth again....Perla slapped it away fast, and turned the child away from her and gave her a little push. The CM minder didn't see all this, because she was trying to hold back the crowd. Again, what really bothered me here, was that this child was laughing and posing for pictures while doing it. A small child could make this mistake, but not one that old.

How terribly rude!
I am in awe that a child of that age would be so rude to do such a thing, who is she trying to impress? And where were her parents/carers whoever??
Appalling I think is the word I'm looking for!

 

[Architect]

I don't have anything against teenagers (I was one, once upon a time) but I never would have behaved like these did. In line for Small World, one (large) girl stepped on my foot in her haste to shove my 2 year old aside and I kicked her .

I would never condone violence, but good for you!

 

[bavaria]

I agree Each nationality has the dubious honour of having a minority that does little to represent the interests of their kin.

Agreed! in fact, the worse case of pushing I experienced last year was from a European family not from 'continetal' Europe

but I did have to chuckle during breakfast at the Cheyenne - all the Brits (and I) were in an orderly line waiting for coffee. For every Brit who managed to get to the machine, 2 or 3 others would come from the and push their way past to the machine.

I did manage to block a Dutchwoman (nothing gets between me and my coffee) but the poor British woman behind me in the queue looked rather defenseless, and I had to wish her luck as I left...

Other than a few exhuberent people in POTC, I can't recall any really bad behaviour

 

[UKDEB]

This happens the world over and is the main reason we can't be bothered with parades. I want to chill out and enjoy my time at the parks, not worry about getting into a fracas with people who want to stand in front of me at the last minute when I've been waiting patiently for an hour or more. I'll happily encourage children to stand in front of me, but if their parents think the invitation extends to them, they'll be disabused of the notion in no uncertain terms!

 

[Ste7en]

The line jumpers really tarnish the magic IMO.

I'm over 6 foot and quite broad and I tend to puff out a bit when it comes to standing in line in DLP.

Useful tactics:

1) If someone is really uncomfortably close up behind you start to gesticulate while you speak, rock back and forth and shuffle around. People soon give you a bit of space.

2) If they get right in front of you suddenly develop a rather nasty cough. They'll regret getting in front then.

This rotten old woman tried to push past my 4 year old daughter and she wouldn't budge. I think it made her feel rather foolish and she tried to make a fuss of her instead.

That was on BTM, but once you get into the abattoir style fenced areas things settle down.

 

[mulan1]

The line jumpers really tarnish the magic IMO.

I'm over 6 foot and quite broad and I tend to puff out a bit when it comes to standing in line in DLP.

Useful tactics:

1) If someone is really uncomfortably close up behind you start to gesticulate while you speak, rock back and forth and shuffle around. People soon give you a bit of space.

2) If they get right in front of you suddenly develop a rather nasty cough. They'll regret getting in front then.

This rotten old woman tried to push past my 4 year old daughter and she wouldn't budge. I think it made her feel rather foolish and she tried to make a fuss of her instead.

That was on BTM, but once you get into the abattoir style fenced areas things settle down.

Great tips, yes the shuffling around one always works, in any kind of queue, must say haven't tried the coughing one, will do though should i be the unfortunate victim of a queue jumper.

 

[luke]

In line for Small World, one (large) girl stepped on my foot in her haste to shove my 2 year old aside and I kicked her .

I'll have to admit to the occasional sly kick or bump into queue jumpers

It does seem to be very rife in DLRP, and like many here me and my gf have adopted the stretching across the queue area tactic to stop it happening.

As for letting kids to the front at parade time, i will pretty much always do it for small kids, and the parents are usually very thankful, which can often make your day