The death stats per year for flu and pneumonia onset from flu is in the thousands per year in the Quebec Province. From what I can see there is little middle ground and you're either in the camp of let's put everybody into unemployment poverty lockdown or you're in the camp of live your life understanding there is bad things in life and you cannot go around living in fear. I hear malaria is deadly, does that mean everyone in Africa locks themselves indoors? No, they do not. If anyone wants to personal message me via this board I would be more than happy to do the back and forth further off thread but I doubt anything will change minds so we can all agree to disagree rather that hijack this thread any further. People die and people will continue to die and although it is sad, almost everybody who gets COVID will not die. If people are not comfortable with cruising, then don't cruise and wait for your vaccine. The COVID-19 vaccine should work just long enough until COVID-20 comes along, just like how ineffective the flu vaccine is.