Advice needed: How do I say this nicely?

How can I say politely I don't want my child around them or their kid?



You can't. My best advice is hire a sitter to come to your home. Then you can make the rules.

My mother often babysat for my DD and I never would have presumed to tell her that she couldn't leave her house when she was doing me a favor. I have to say if you asked me to babysit as a favor, I wouldn't do it if you then made demands.
 
PP- didnt mean to be ugly about replying about the wal mart thing.. Just saying why I didnt want him to be taken there... I just think that when you have someone elses children, you ask if its okay to take them somewhere.

And he was 3 months old at the time.. I knew she would let everyone touch all over him during flu season and I would be the one to be staying up all night with him if he is sick.. Yes, I know that sometimes kids get sick but when if I can prevent it, I will.. And in my case my DH is totally on board with this so Im not trying to be the ruler. This is the same woman that came to 'Visit" us at 10:00 at night the 1st night we were at home with him.. Not to help or see if we needed anything, just sit and stare at us until my DH politely said we were ready for bed..

I just would like to know where my child is at all times.. I'm his mother and have a right to know.. Now lets all just get along!! We are supposed to be on here talking about Disney and fun stuff!!
 
Yes my 8 year old was bored but apparently you failed the reading comprehension part where I talked about the 2 to 2.5 year old that was there for at least 2 hours (not sure how much longer since when we left they were still there working on the paperwork). My 8 year old is better able to keep herself busy. Also, no way would I take an already sick 1 year old out to expose her to more germs. I have had 2 children with RSV with one having been hospitalized. A simple cold can turn into so much more so no a sick child should not be taken to a car dealership.

I give up because all the perfect people never want to take the time to understand anyone else's views.

Oh and for your information - how would you feel to get the call that your mother or mother in law took your child in her car and decided that the rules you have like using a car seat are not important so your child is dead?? Yeah, try explaining that one to the woman here whose young child was killed when a car hit her mother's car where the mother failed to place the child in a child restraint system. This was not the first mother I have known that complained about a mother or mother in law disregarding their requests by placing a child in danger.

OP- I would definitely find someone else to watch your child and not all grandparents disregard requests contrary to what many here have tried to say. I highly doubt their lives are quite so perfect. I would definitely avoid asking mother in law to watch your child or do anything for you.

Sorry, I don't live my life like that. I have never worried about exposure to germs. When younger, I let me children be cared for by people we trusted so we never worried about people taking them in their cars. If I felt I could trust someone to care for my child, the ability to take them in a car as part of that package. And I have never worried if my kids were going to be bored when doing something essential like having the car fixed or purchasing a car. That's just part and parcel of being in our family. Sometimes you have to do things you don't like.
 
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Also in my eyes: DD and her fellow daycare mates clearly had something serious. Why would you bring her over to another kids home that also has a pregnant woman living there?

Why would you leave your child if you honestly thought that she had something serious?

For 31 years, my DH has researched and searched out car deals because I didn't care too. Once it was narrowed down, I sometimes went and looked. Other times he just came home and handed me the keys. I hate car shopping!
 
Oh dear god give it a rest. I think you're being dramatic. Police Raids? if the police raided everyone who sold and grew drugs in their homes they would never get to do anything else. Many "professionals" have secrets and family that do inappropriate things. To think that because they are professionals they are squeaky clean is naive.

This is so very true. Let's see, in my city we have had a police officer busted for child porn and exposing himself to a schoolbus full of teens, we have had a doctor go to jail and lose his license over drugs, have had a teacher fired and facing criminal charges for child sex abuse, a teacher's aid charged for sexual abuse of children, lawyers disbarred for various law violations and my city is not that big.
 
Oh and for your information - how would you feel to get the call that your mother or mother in law took your child in her car and decided that the rules you have like using a car seat are not important so your child is dead?? Yeah, try explaining that one to the woman here whose young child was killed when a car hit her mother's car where the mother failed to place the child in a child restraint system. This was not the first mother I have known that complained about a mother or mother in law disregarding their requests by placing a child in danger.

An accident can always happen but if I knew that my mother or anyone else wouldn't take reasonable precautions then they wouldn't sit from me more than once.
 
An accident can always happen but if I knew that my mother or anyone else wouldn't take reasonable precautions then they wouldn't sit from me more than once.

I agree here. I have said the OP needs to find someone else to watch her child but I also do not agree that the mother in law disregarded the mother's request. Neither my mother or mother in law have disregarded my requests (which aren't many but they know if I don't feel a situation is safe I do not want my child there). If they did they would not watch my kids again. I would never stop them from seeing the kids (mother in law used to get to see my kids all the time because I was willing to make the trip even when her own son could not be bothered) but I would not have them babysit either.
 


I know what you mean.. My MIL is the same exact way.. I never let her keep our son anymore because of it.. When he was like 3 months old, she kept him and accidentally told me that night that she had taken him to Wal Mart and I had to tell her that in the future- please ask before you take him places without me knowing.. Especially when he is an infant and you are taking him out in the public where everyone can touch all over him.. UGH

What is the big deal? I see newborns at Walmart, days old. I took my son to the mall at a week and he is 12 now. Healthy as a horse. And really, who is going to "touch all over him"? I know I don't touch other kids babies. Not everyone wants to touch your child. Ugh.
 
And to the other PP- she worked at Wal Mart.. Thats why I didnt want her taking him there in the middle of flu season where everyone could touch all over him. Thats why!!!!

Again, I don't think anyone want to "touch all over him". Not sure how that is different than touching him but either way, I don't think people are going to do it. Not everyone loves babies and most people know not to touch an infant that doesn't belong to them. I have six of my own babies, I had my fill of touching babies so I, personally, don't feel the need to touch strangers' babies.
 
Okay, we're not really talking about the same thing. To me, the key is that she didn't want the baby taken to the workplace. In your scenario, you say you didn't care, so that's not really the same thing. So can you think of something that you wouldn't want your MIL or mother to do with your baby? Not anything dangerous, but something a little annoying? Maybe forcing the baby to skip a nap, or letting her sleep too long, so you'd have to deal with the consequences when you got home? Would you be angry if Grandma knew you didn't want her to do that, and she did it anyway?

Where in her post does she say that she told her MIL not to take the baby to Walmart? This PP said that since her MIL took her dd somewhere without asking, she can no longer take care of her. Now, if it was a crackhouse, maybe I can see why one would be upset. As for the OP, she admits she never told her MIL why she didn't want her dd there. Did she actually come out and say "don't take Princess to BIL's?" I can't imagine the MIL not asking why?
 
Where in her post does she say that she told her MIL not to take the baby to Walmart? This PP said that since her MIL took her dd somewhere without asking, she can no longer take care of her. Now, if it was a crackhouse, maybe I can see why one would be upset. As for the OP, she admits she never told her MIL why she didn't want her dd there. Did she actually come out and say "don't take Princess to BIL's?" I can't imagine the MIL not asking why?

There was another poster who's MIL took her 3 month old to Wal-Mart where she worked without asking permission. So now we are going back and forth between the Wal-Mart poster and the OP.

The OP told her she didn't want her DD at BIL's but never explained why, she just assumed she would know. Her MIL must have the ability to read her mind and emotions.

There, now you are up to date :thumbsup2
 
Being a grandparent isn't a right it's a privilege. It's not their child.
The MOST hilarious part about this.... being a GRANDPARENT IS A RIGHT! ITS A LEGAL RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your MIL can GO TO COURT and get visitation RIGHTS to see her grandchildren, yes it exists sweetie... dont be so naive.... You do NOT control your children 100% and your HUSBAND has just as much right to your children as YOU do.... Your better off keeping things civil, IMO.


popcorn:: I don't know what is more suprising to me - that this thread is till going or that I keep reading it.
Amen to that!!!!!!! its disgusting really.... *sigh*
 
I get the sense that some posters on this thread know each other in real life -- or there is some stalking going on. Given that I fall in neither of those categories, I'm simply taking the poster at face value.

A lot of the posters on this thread clearly have never had to deal with an extremely dysfunctional family. Just call CPS you say? I don't think you have an idea of the truly horrible situations that CPS typically deals with. Animal feces on the floor, they aren't coming out for that -- probably not even for a marijuana plant either. But, I too, wouldn't want my kids hanging out in a place like that. You would just offer to help them out? I feel so horrible for my DH who for years thought that if he helped enough is family would change -- he was always crushed when the minute he was gone everything would go to pot again (no pun intended). It isn't as simple and black and white as you may think.

And some MILs (or any other family members really) are extremely manipulative and messed up themselves. Now, granted, that is the reason I would never leave my kids with my MIL, but this idea that because they are a grandparent they have the best interests of your kids is just wrong.
 
Let me start by saying my husband is out of town, so I had some time to kill tonight. The DIS board is good for something!!
My youngest daughter is on a Rugrats kick lately. So the more I read this OP's stuff, I think she IS Angelica's mom... Angelica's dad just mumbles to himself in the corner...
Thats all I got, sorry!!
 
I get the sense that some posters on this thread know each other in real life -- or there is some stalking going on. Given that I fall in neither of those categories, I'm simply taking the poster at face value.

A lot of the posters on this thread clearly have never had to deal with an extremely dysfunctional family. Just call CPS you say? I don't think you have an idea of the truly horrible situations that CPS typically deals with. Animal feces on the floor, they aren't coming out for that -- probably not even for a marijuana plant either. But, I too, wouldn't want my kids hanging out in a place like that. You would just offer to help them out? I feel so horrible for my DH who for years thought that if he helped enough is family would change -- he was always crushed when the minute he was gone everything would go to pot again (no pun intended). It isn't as simple and black and white as you may think.

And some MILs (or any other family members really) are extremely manipulative and messed up themselves. Now, granted, that is the reason I would never leave my kids with my MIL, but this idea that because they are a grandparent they have the best interests of your kids is just wrong.


Having known someone in a similar situation (though not nearly as bad as the OP is describing), CPS does in fact come out for the horrid conditions the OP is describing. They gave the mom a chance to clean up and make the home suitable or her kids would have been removed. She got it cleaned up satisfactorily and got to keep the kids and I honestly can't say if they did many (or any) follow up checks, but at least the house was clean and safe for a period of time.


And fwiw, I don't know any of these posters in real life, but after reading references to previous situations with the inlaws, I did look through the OP's post history and was shocked by some of the comments. It seems she just hates these people for whatever reason and finds fault with everything they do.
 
Wow. OP, I have a couple words for you...GROW UP! Being a parent or grandparent is a blessing, a right, and a privilege. By asking MIL to care for your child in this "emergency" you gave her un-said permission to run her errands or what not with your daughter. Had you specifically told her when you dropped dd off Not to take her anywhere, you'd have a right to be upset and angry.

Get over it. Grow up.

And I'd guess your age to be in your 20s. You're rather immature and selfish (and think the world must/does revolve around you) regarding your marriage, in-laws, and how to raise your child. Not to mention, you seem to thrive on drama...based on your responses here.

I forsee a child in a split (aka divorced) family before she enters elementary school. So very heartbreaking for her.
 
I get the sense that some posters on this thread know each other in real life -- or there is some stalking going on. Given that I fall in neither of those categories, I'm simply taking the poster at face value.

A lot of the posters on this thread clearly have never had to deal with an extremely dysfunctional family. Just call CPS you say? I don't think you have an idea of the truly horrible situations that CPS typically deals with. Animal feces on the floor, they aren't coming out for that -- probably not even for a marijuana plant either. But, I too, wouldn't want my kids hanging out in a place like that. You would just offer to help them out? I feel so horrible for my DH who for years thought that if he helped enough is family would change -- he was always crushed when the minute he was gone everything would go to pot again (no pun intended). It isn't as simple and black and white as you may think.

And some MILs (or any other family members really) are extremely manipulative and messed up themselves. Now, granted, that is the reason I would never leave my kids with my MIL, but this idea that because they are a grandparent they have the best interests of your kids is just wrong.

Having known someone in a similar situation (though not nearly as bad as the OP is describing), CPS does in fact come out for the horrid conditions the OP is describing. They gave the mom a chance to clean up and make the home suitable or her kids would have been removed. She got it cleaned up satisfactorily and got to keep the kids and I honestly can't say if they did many (or any) follow up checks, but at least the house was clean and safe for a period of time.


And fwiw, I don't know any of these posters in real life, but after reading references to previous situations with the inlaws, I did look through the OP's post history and was shocked by some of the comments. It seems she just hates these people for whatever reason and finds fault with everything they do.

For the record - I don't know anyone in real life on this thread, nor the DIS for that matter.

Here in Canada, our laws are a bit different, but it's not as easy as one thinks to call for these types of issues either. Heck, most of my at-risk students admit criminal activities to us, and as teachers bound by law, we have to report, and not much gets done in certain cases. It is difficult around here, as our CAS workers are overworked and understaffed, not to mention, the cops are trying to deal with the flood of narcotics that are on the streets. I'm not sure how this situation would play out in my city, if indeed it were true?

So, although I think the OP clearly has some major issues, based on this thread, and her other rants about people in general, there are many issues at play here. She absolutely has the right to not want her child around drugs or dirt, so not sure what the issue is for many people in regards to those topics? If people are trying to figure out if indeed the OP is telling the truth, that is another matter entirely, but if it comes to drugs, criminal activities or neglect, than her child should not be around that. But, and it's a big but, neither should her nephews.

If everything OP says is true, and I don't believe all of it is, then her DH's family are dysfunctional enablers, which is very common when dealing with adddictions. I live in this world each and everyday with my students and their families, and truthfully, the only person that can be controlled in that situation is the OP. She can, and should keep her daughter out of that mess, and if I find out my husband or mother in law brought my child to that dysfunctional household (if indeed it exists as such), there would be major hell to pay around here.

There are lots of issues in this thread, and many posters are judgmental against the OP for her dramatic and frankly rude threads. This should not take away from the fact that if indeed that house is as she describes, then her child should not be over there, period.

As far as mother in law, clearly she does not share the same feelings as the OP, so knowing this, she cannot use her as a babysitter, end of story. Our car lots are outside around here, so she could have put baby in car, and one of them could have stayed with her, while the other looked/drove around, and then one at a time could have entered the dealership. We've actually done this, and there are no issues involved.

If OP truly is troubled by her mother in law, then she does not babysit, end of story. Basically, her car was more important than her Princess. Clearly, OP is naive, since if drugs are involved, you cannot reason with people at all, so despite wanting her mother in law to abide by her wishes, she has proven she cannot, so by OP still using her to babysit, this is neglectful to her child and hypocritical.

Lots of interesting replies on this thread, and hopefully OP has learned, from this one, and her other threads, that many people have pre-conceived judgments of her, and in that respect, nothing that she says will be taken seriously, IMHO. Wanting to truly protect your child, which I can assume all of us want to do, is one thing, but ranting about how no one can measure up to you, is clearly another. So, although it seems that DH and his family may have some serious issues, so does the OP in her perception of the world around her.

I have to imagine if the OP conducts herself as she does on the DIS, then I can't imagine many people taking her seriously, most of all her hubby and mother in law.

Tiger
 
Having known someone in a similar situation (though not nearly as bad as the OP is describing), CPS does in fact come out for the horrid conditions the OP is describing. They gave the mom a chance to clean up and make the home suitable or her kids would have been removed. She got it cleaned up satisfactorily and got to keep the kids and I honestly can't say if they did many (or any) follow up checks, but at least the house was clean and safe for a period of time.

It must depend on your city (and your city's level of problems) because we, too, have had to do this for what I would consider a more serious situation than OP's and they didn't care (or probably to be be more accurate are so overworked that they prioritize cases and this horrible situation incredibly would pale in comparison to what CPS typically deals with).
 

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