Pickup truck/SUV owners intentionally blocking electric charging spaces in parking lots

[Jennasis]

Something has to be fundamentally wrong in your head to start with to make you want to drive one of those brodozers.

A pickup truck?? Or one with the crazy lift/exhaust kits?

Well - I don't really get this commericial, especially that SHE wants the pickup truck and not the SUV. Do women really want to drive pickup trucks?

I also looked into the price of all of these. MSRP of about $57,000 for the pickup and $67,000 for the SUV.

I'm a woman and I drive a pickup. It's only an F-250 but I dream of owning a 350/450.

 

[kdonnel]

Yep. But it requires an open parking lot. Can't do it properly in a garage. Some newer setups in downtown stadiums rely on a lot of public transportation so there are fewer places to park, which are also really expensive. There's also an issue of talking up multiple parking spaces, when a parking fee theoretically is a license to park in a single space. However, most tailgates are over and mostly packed up before the game starts. I've heard of some where there's are people not actually going to the game keeping it up after hours and watching on a TV (or these days some other device).

I was a season ticket holder for Cal football, but it's a complex situation. A very small number of people could tailgate because parking was limited to the big donors and a lot of campus parking is in garages. There are private garages, but they generally won't allow grills to be set up. There are plenty of places to eat or drink. Some businesses even set up grills on the sidewalk, so that kind of makes up for the lack of tailgating.

Any stadium with a fan base that tailgates that doesn’t go out of their way to provide tailgating facilities is losing revenue.

The new Falcons stadium has a purpose built tailgating lot, the Home Depot Backyard.

Every surrounding lot is very upfront with what is allowed and what is not allowed as far as tailgating.

 

[Squirlz]

A pickup truck?? Or one with the crazy lift/exhaust kits?

The picture that I saw last week was ridiculous looking trucks with giant chrome wheels and rubber-band tires that render them useless for anything but posing.

 

[NotUrsula]

This has made me quite curious. I have heard of tailgate parties and such here on these boards but never quite understand what the purpose of them is. I live in Canada in a region where almost everyone drives a truck or it seems like it anyways but nobody “tailgates”. I guess it’s not s thing here. From what I’ve understood it’s usually in parking lots? During or before or after football games? Just curious because I keep hearing reference to them but don’t really understand. [snip]

It is a pre-game party. They mostly started because parking is at a premium at most football stadiums, so you have to arrive very early if you don't want to have to walk a mile in the cold, but then you are stuck there for hours with nothing to do. Ergo, have a party to pass the time.

In the US South, where the weather is typically still warm on autumn days, tailgating for college games is a much bigger deal than for NFL games. Many Alumni pull out all the stops, up to & including the good crystal (I once saw a chandelier hanging from a tree at a Grove party.) At the Grove @ Ole Miss, you are not allowed to cook anything on site, so it has evolved into a strolling cocktail party with fabulously creative hors doevres. At LSU, it is all about local cuisine, and folks come in very early to set up and cook, so that they can share their best dishes with their friends. At Tennessee, the stadium is built next to a river, and thus you can "sail gate" -- there are hundreds of boats tied up at the docks for a floating party.

 

[LSUmiss]

This has made me quite curious. I have heard of tailgate parties and such here on these boards but never quite understand what the purpose of them is. I live in Canada in a region where almost everyone drives a truck or it seems like it anyways but nobody “tailgates”. I guess it’s not s thing here. From what I’ve understood it’s usually in parking lots? During or before or after football games? Just curious because I keep hearing reference to them but don’t really understand.

For the record my dh does own a truck. He bought it when we moved to this area five years ago. Says he felt out of place without it, lol. Since then he’s also bought a boat a camping trailer so he does use it to haul those.

Here it’s all over the campus at the university not in a parking lot although some spots are. We tailgate under 4 beautiful live oak trees. It’s basically a big outdoor party. For big games, old friends we haven’t seen in a while will come in from out of town. Its sometimes fun to interact with opposing fans. There are also often events on campus on game day.

 

[LSUmiss]

Yep. But it requires an open parking lot. Can't do it properly in a garage. Some newer setups in downtown stadiums rely on a lot of public transportation so there are fewer places to park, which are also really expensive. There's also an issue of talking up multiple parking spaces, when a parking fee theoretically is a license to park in a single space. However, most tailgates are over and mostly packed up before the game starts. I've heard of some where there's are people not actually going to the game keeping it up after hours and watching on a TV (or these days some other device).

I was a season ticket holder for Cal football, but it's a complex situation. A very small number of people could tailgate because parking was limited to the big donors and a lot of campus parking is in garages. There are private garages, but they generally won't allow grills to be set up. There are plenty of places to eat or drink. Some businesses even set up grills on the sidewalk, so that kind of makes up for the lack of tailgating.

LSU has started selling more spots like this too. We are concerned that’s the direction they’re headed. There will be an uproar if that happens as this has been a long standing tradition at the school. Our group alone has been doing it over 20 years in the exact same spot & that’s a drop in the bucket compared to many other groups.

 

[LSUmiss]

It is a pre-game party. They mostly started because parking is at a premium at most football stadiums, so you have to arrive very early if you don't want to have to walk a mile in the cold, but then you are stuck there for hours with nothing to do. Ergo, have a party to pass the time.

In the US South, where the weather is typically still warm on autumn days, tailgating for college games is a much bigger deal than for NFL games. Many Alumni pull out all the stops, up to & including the good crystal (I once saw a chandelier hanging from a tree at a Grove party.) At the Grove @ Ole Miss, you are not allowed to cook anything on site, so it has evolved into a strolling cocktail party with fabulously creative hors doevres. At LSU, it is all about local cuisine, and folks come in very early to set up and cook, so that they can share their best dishes with their friends. At Tennessee, the stadium is built next to a river, and thus you can "sail gate" -- there are hundreds of boats tied up at the docks for a floating party.

Some with RVs sleep on campus & cook all night. Before they started charging for parking, we would go park trucks the night before to save our spots. Now our spot is a paid one so we don’t have to do that. While I hate paying, I like that getting a spot is no longer a 2 day event.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It is a pre-game party. They mostly started because parking is at a premium at most football stadiums, so you have to arrive very early if you don't want to have to walk a mile in the cold, but then you are stuck there for hours with nothing to do. Ergo, have a party to pass the time.

In the US South, where the weather is typically still warm on autumn days, tailgating for college games is a much bigger deal than for NFL games. Many Alumni pull out all the stops, up to & including the good crystal (I once saw a chandelier hanging from a tree at a Grove party.) At the Grove @ Ole Miss, you are not allowed to cook anything on site, so it has evolved into a strolling cocktail party with fabulously creative hors doevres. At LSU, it is all about local cuisine, and folks come in very early to set up and cook, so that they can share their best dishes with their friends. At Tennessee, the stadium is built next to a river, and thus you can "sail gate" -- there are hundreds of boats tied up at the docks for a floating party.

At my alma mater there's really not the same tailgating situation as the NFL and MLB in the general area. More tents for college games, less tailgating at your actual vehicle at least compared to NFL/MLB, etc.

It's on a college campus so different set up and whatnot.

Weather isn't the difference in that as my alma mater is close to where I live with the same weather. It's just a different setup between a college campus and a dedicated sports complex.

 

[bcla]

LSU has started selling more spots like this too. We are concerned that’s the direction they’re headed. There will be an uproar if that happens as this has been a long standing tradition at the school. Our group alone has been doing it over 20 years in the exact same spot & that’s a drop in the bucket compared to many other groups.

I'm most familiar with my days as an Oakland A's season ticket holder, where some of my buddies there would have a small tailgate. They had some complex rules such as designated tailgate areas, only taking one additional spot during the tailgating, and vacating that spot before game time to allow someone to park there. I remember there were often last minute spaces available pretty close because they had been vacated by tailgaters.

The current rules seem to require a reservation, although I believe there are plenty of people who just show up and are considered fine as long as they only take up a single parking spot.

https://www.mlb.com/athletics/ballpark/tailgate-areas

Now Raiders tailgates are legendary.

You're right. No way to fit two halves of a 55 gallon drum and a suckling pig in the back of a hatchback.

 

[msjprincess]

I never knew people hated drivers of trucks so much

Me neither. My husband has a diesel F-350. He bought it to tow his motorcycle, our camper and/or golf cart. Plus we like having a 4WD to go on the beach. Hard to do that with a sedan.

He'd also like to get a hybrid to use for his daily commute. So I'm not sure which kind of jerk that makes him.

 

[bcla]

Any stadium with a fan base that tailgates that doesn’t go out of their way to provide tailgating facilities is losing revenue.

The new Falcons stadium has a purpose built tailgating lot, the Home Depot Backyard.

Every surrounding lot is very upfront with what is allowed and what is not allowed as far as tailgating.

Raiders in Vegas are going to lose that tradition. Apparently there's going to be a lack of parking near the new stadium, and lots will be up to 2 miles away.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/raiders...n-stadium-parking-goals-tailgate-13201932.php

The article mentions the 49ers and their limited parking. What they've been doing for parking is using up nearly every available nearby parking lot or garage. The City of Santa Clara has a parking garage for city employees which gets used. There's parking on the the city-owned golf course (on the fairways) across the street. They use up the Great America parking lot, which works because they close it on game days.

i remember back when the Super Bowl was played there, several catering companies had expensive setups with admission. They were set up up a mile away in many of the parking lots of the tech companies and businesses in the area. Guy Fieri's tailgate supposedly cost $700, although many got it as part of a package with their overpriced hotel rooms and tickets. It was set up in the Hyatt Regency Santa Clara parking lot which is close to the stadium.

Not sure what's available next week for the national championship game.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Me neither. My husband has a diesel F-350. He bought it to tow his motorcycle, our camper and/or golf cart. Plus we like having a 4WD to go on the beach. Hard to do that with a sedan.

He'd also like to get a hybrid to use for his daily commute. So I'm not sure which kind of jerk that makes him.

Right? My husband has a truck and a VW GTI

As long as it’s manual and in good shape he’ll drive it.

 

[kdonnel]

Raiders in Vegas are going to lose that tradition.

That is too bad. Sounds like real poor planning and a lack of caring about the fans.

 

[amberpi]

I can't speak for everyone, but I think most on this thread are talking about the annoying, exhaust enhanced, stupid loud horn/lights (those things should be outlawed, we recently had a run in with one because DH beat him off the line without even realizing we were next to a DB), muffler amplified brodozers, not a pickup for which there are a number of reasons to own. I cited the common joke about hitches, but even that's not entirely fair, some people just like to have access to a pickup for normal things like picking up their own large deliveries, or bed full of mulch, whatever. My folks have a pickup, it does have a hitch, because they have a farm...but it doesn't have a lift kit, and it's not the shiniest, chromed out, exhaust spewing, Dixie horn having monstrosity that is pretty common around here. For what the guys spend on those trucks they could have a Tesla; and both vehicles would see the exact same terrain.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I can't speak for everyone, but I think most on this thread are talking about the annoying, exhaust enhanced, stupid loud horn/lights (those things should be outlawed, we recently had a run in with one because DH beat him off the line without even realizing we were next to a DB), muffler amplified brodozers, not a pickup for which there are a number of reasons to own. I cited the common joke about hitches, but even that's not entirely fair, some people just like to have access to a pickup for normal things like picking up their own large deliveries, or bed full of mulch, whatever. My folks have a pickup, it does have a hitch, because they have a farm...but it doesn't have a lift kit, and it's not the shiniest, chromed out, exhaust spewing, Dixie horn having monstrosity that is pretty common around here. For what the guys spend on those trucks they could have a Tesla; and both vehicles would see the exact same terrain.

Brother-in-law's friends think it's hilarious to do the black smoke thing with their trucks. I think it's rude and terrible but it's really not a truck thing it's just a person driving thing.

I wish they had to walk behind the buses we had when I was at my alma mater before they went eco/cleaner and got better exhaust systems. Maybe just maybe they would decide making others inhale that crap and unable to see and drive safe is no longer desirable.

 

[amberpi]

Brother-in-law's friends think it's hilarious to do the black smoke thing with their trucks. I think it's rude and terrible but it's really not a truck thing it's just a person driving thing.

I wish they had to walk behind the buses we had when I was at my alma mater before they went eco/cleaner and got better exhaust systems. Maybe just maybe they would decide making others inhale that crap and unable to see and drive safe is no longer desirable.

I'm impressed you can be around them. I couldn't; but I'm a bit too good about telling terrible people where I think they should go. They could literally get someone killed, and not even the target of their ire, same as the people with the huge light kits. It's all really funny to those dbs until they end up facing manslaughter charges I guess. The country music scene around here seems to promote this crap brand of machismo - and may contribute to why so many locals hate the industry. Those faux country buttholes give real rednecks a bad name.

 

[Julie's Haircut]

This is a common scene for our NFL team:

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I'm not interested in tailgating. Just commenting that I always liked the early 70's designs and architecture of the Chiefs and Royals stadiums. While other cities were still building shared facilities, KC was smart and built two separate stadiums.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm not interested in tailgating. Just commenting that I always liked the early 70's designs and architecture of the Chiefs and Royals stadiums. While other cities were still building shared facilities, KC was smart and built two separate stadiums.

I really love the looks of our stadiums and the feels of them and that they are at the same place. Arrowhead is one of the loudest stadiums out there with a great atmosphere IMO and Kauffman is just beautiful with the fountains, the museum, etc even if it no longer has the largest HD screen lol

There's some talk been going on for like a year or so of moving the Royals to a new stadium (that would be built for them) Downtown and that would be a really bad decision. It's not a popular opinion to move them. I hate when things that aren't broken tried to get fixed lol.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm impressed you can be around them. I couldn't; but I'm a bit too good about telling terrible people where I think they should go. They could literally get someone killed, and not even the target of their ire, same as the people with the huge light kits. It's all really funny to those dbs until they end up facing manslaughter charges I guess. The country music scene around here seems to promote this crap brand of machismo - and may contribute to why so many locals hate the industry. Those faux country buttholes give real rednecks a bad name.

Oh I try not to be around them much at all trust me. Luckily they have completely and utterly different likes than me so they are content doing activities that I'm not into. When brother-in-law (he's my sister-in-law's husband really) first starting playing those YouTube videos sent from his friends and all (you know the ones people take of people doing the black smoke thing) I just shook my head and say that's terrible for people to do that. He hasn't sat and watched those videos in a good while but I know his friends still do that kind of stuff to other people .

 

[DisneyOma]

I never knew people hated drivers of trucks so much

Only truck drivers that are idiots. Luckily, they tend to advertise how idiotic they are, so they can be avoided.

Just clogging up the lanes and making no effort to keep right when holding up traffic. Riding 3 & 4 wide (sometimes spilling over into the oncoming lane). Bicycles & farm equipment tend to move at roughly the same pace. It shouldn’t be easier to get around a 20,000lb combine than it is to get around cyclists. But, it often is.

Your final sentence sums it up, actually. Some more militant cyclists have that “I don’t HAVE to keep right, so I’m not going to” attitude. That complete lack of common courtesy on their part taints the entire public perception of cyclists.

Up here in the north, the right side of the road can be littered with tire-popping hazards, potholes, etc. So cyclists can ride toward the middle of the road to stay safe. No one has more of a right to the road - cyclists or motorized vehicles. Who cares if they are going slowly?

You really don't need a truck here. What you do need is a vehicle large enough to bring tailgating stuff: tents if you're going to, cornhole and other games, beer, tables, food, grills, chairs, etc.

Tailgating is an honored tradition for our area and is normally done before and to an extent during- both NFL and MLB. For those teams the stadiums are right next to each other too for our teams

In recent years though they have tightened down on tailgaitng rules for us such as painting yellow lines where your particular tailgating group cannot pass (to allow other vehicles especially emergency vehicles access) and this year for NFL tailgating in the parking lot must end once kickoff happens and you're supposed to go into the game. If you don't possess a ticket to the game you'll need to leave the parking lot complex. It's the first year for that rule so I don't know that they are uber uber strict about it quite yet (it's made quite a lot of people upset about it too).

Sounds like some sensible rules - you don't have a ticket to the game - what do you do, sit in the parking lot and get drunk? I think that would be a huge liability!