•The Official COPPER CREEK VILLAS & CABINS Owners & Lovers Group•

[harbourxie]

Agree with GrandCalifornian's comments above, but I also want to offer further comments. The best thing about owning where you want to stay is that you get that 11-month booking window, and for the most part, if you're quick to pull the trigger as soon as that window opens, you shouldn't have any issues getting a room. Now, whether a room is big enough for your family, I answer this way: yes for now but unsure in the future. One thing too many people overlook when buying into DVC is what their vacationing habits will be like down the road. Though a tight fit, two adults and two small kids should be fine in a studio. What happens when those kids turn 11 and 16? Will you still be vacationing at Disney in 8 years? 10? 20? 30? Remember, you're not just buying for vacations now, but your contract will reach out 50 years, and you'll be paying dues on those points every single year. I'm not attempting to discourage you but rather to ensure you think strategically. Finally, not having the monorail attached to WL is a good thing. The ideas that most appeal to us about the Lodge are its architecture and its relative sense of intimacy and serenity compared to other resorts. Having the monorail would ruin that uniqueness. That being said, the bus and boat service at the Lodge is usually quite dependable and enjoyable. The boat is by far our favorite method to get to MK, and the bus service to MK is also quite good and quick. Bus service to other parks is generally above average, too; however, we usually prefer to drive to AK, DHS, Epcot, and Disney Springs--it's usually faster. Then again, we always drive down so we don't have to rent a vehicle. If you fly, I would say that renting a car isn't needed as the bus and boat service will be more than adequate. Good luck with your decision making!

Thanks for the inputs. The size of the studio did concern me especially when the kids are getting bigger.......

My plan A to solve this concern is to do a trip every other year or every three years so that I have enough points for either 1 bedroom or even 2 bedrooms.

BTW. I just bought the CCV with a fixed week of #47 for a studio. 38 our of the next 50 Thanksgivings will fell in this week. This guaranteed feature costs me 118 points instead of the standard 116 points. I will talk to my guide later to get more information on if I can do an upgrade of my contract in the future from a studio to 1 bedroom or even 2 bedrooms. This way I can have more room when kids are bigger and this will be my Plan B.

Plan C will either sell the contract if price is right or rent out points.

Thanks again for the inputs.

 

[kungaloosh22]

Congrats harbourxie!

I will talk to my guide later to get more information on if I can do an upgrade of my contract in the future from a studio to 1 bedroom or even 2 bedrooms.

You can add on points in the future. It will be a different contract than your guaranteed week contract, but if it's in the same name and use year, you can very easily combine points if/when you want a bigger room, or if you decide to travel in a season that requires more points.

ETA: If you want to upgrade your contract from a fixed week studio to a fixed week 1 bedroom, I don't think that's possible. (But I'd be happy to be wrong about this!)

 

[mrsap]

Thanks for the inputs. The size of the studio did concern me especially when the kids are getting bigger.......

My plan A to solve this concern is to do a trip every other year or every three years so that I have enough points for either 1 bedroom or even 2 bedrooms.

BTW. I just bought the CCV with a fixed week of #47 for a studio. 38 our of the next 50 Thanksgivings will fell in this week. This guaranteed feature costs me 118 points instead of the standard 116 points. I will talk to my guide later to get more information on if I can do an upgrade of my contract in the future from a studio to 1 bedroom or even 2 bedrooms. This way I can have more room when kids are bigger and this will be my Plan B.

Plan C will either sell the contract if price is right or rent out points.

Thanks again for the inputs.

and Congrats to you! We have been going Thanksgiving week and the week after since 2004! We love it, such a beautiful time of year at Disney! What is your UY? I'll put you up on Page 1!

*WELCOME HOME!*

 

[harbourxie]

and Congrats to you! We have been going Thanksgiving week and the week after since 2004! We love it, such a beautiful time of year at Disney! What is your UY? I'll put you up on Page 1!

*WELCOME HOME!*

Thanks a lot. October is my UY.

 

[harbourxie]

and Congrats to you! We have been going Thanksgiving week and the week after since 2004! We love it, such a beautiful time of year at Disney! What is your UY? I'll put you up on Page 1!

*WELCOME HOME!*

How difficult to get Thanksgiving week based on your opinion? And which DVC you think is the best for celebrating thanksgiving? Any recommendation for Thanksging dinner? Thanks a lot,

 

[mrsap]

How difficult to get Thanksgiving week based on your opinion? And which DVC you think is the best for celebrating thanksgiving? Any recommendation for Thanksging dinner? Thanks a lot,

I should specify that we are new to DVC, just purchased CCV in September. When we tried booking for last year, being we were already 3 months out, there was no availability Thanksgiving week or the week after. So this past December was our first full 11 months out window, and I had no issues, however we booked our trip starting Saturday AFTER Thanksgiving, so I can’t say for the week of Thanksgiving itself. CCV just opened last year, so after a couple more years under CCV owners belts, we’ll have a better assessment. It definitely is a busy time of year, but it’s our favorite time to go!!! Congrats again!!

For Thanksgiving dinner, we liked Cape May Cafe and Narcoossees. We also did Chef Mickey’s one year, but we didn’t enjoy it. The last couple years we have been going off property to one of our favorite restaurants.

The atmosphere, Christmas music and decorations everywhere, we just love it.

 

[sleepydog25]

How difficult to get Thanksgiving week based on your opinion? And which DVC you think is the best for celebrating thanksgiving? Any recommendation for Thanksging dinner? Thanks a lot,

Not too difficult if you book right at the 11-month mark. The odds lessen the further in from that mark you wait, however. I'm biased, but either CC or VWL would be my favorite. By Thanksgiving, decorations are up all over the World, and as many will attest, there's not more festive and warming place to be than the Lodge during the holidays. The Grand Floridian is also extremely well-decorated and a lovely resort unto its own, but with you only being able to book at the GF at seven months, I suspect it would be difficult to snag a reservation there as it's nearly as tough to get during the holidays as the Lodge. I've never had a T'giving meal on property, so can't help you there although I believe I've read that LTT is a good spot.

 

[wnielsen1]

How difficult to get Thanksgiving week based on your opinion? And which DVC you think is the best for celebrating thanksgiving? Any recommendation for Thanksging dinner? Thanks a lot,

If you want a traditional Thanksgiving dinner, no better place than at Whispering Canyon for a Thanksgiving skillet.

 

[RRB]

If you want a traditional Thanksgiving dinner, no better place than at Whispering Canyon for a Thanksgiving skillet.

Does Artist Point have a Thanksgiving dinner?

 

[Granny]

If you want a traditional Thanksgiving dinner, no better place than at Whispering Canyon for a Thanksgiving skillet.

Good choice. We have eaten Christmas day dinners twice at Liberty Tree Tavern and really like the turkey, stuffing, etc that they serve. My guess is that they have it available for Thanksgiving as well.

 

[mrsap]

Does Artist Point have a Thanksgiving dinner?

I just did a quick search - one website said it did, 3 others didn’t show it! So weird.

 

[wnielsen1]

Does Artist Point have a Thanksgiving dinner?

Not sure. I did not check at the time. I liked the "all you care to eat" setup at Whispering Canyon. As Granny mentions above, Liberty Tree Tavern is a great place for a Thanksgiving meal if you are in the Magic Kingdom that day. At either place, make your ADR as soon as you can (180+10 days) as they both will fill up fast.

 

[sleepydog25]

Does Artist Point have a Thanksgiving dinner?

I'm almost certain they do, though I think it's a bit more upscale version than at, say, LTT or WCC.

 

[RRB]

I'm almost certain they do, though I think it's a bit more upscale version than at, say, LTT or WCC.

I would think you're right. I would also really like to try it as it would probably be great.

 

[harbourxie]

How difficult/easy to rent your CCV points out?

I just want to know if I can easily cash out my points when my family travel pattern changes or my kids don't want WDW anymore. Thanks a lot,

 

[sleepydog25]

How difficult/easy to rent your CCV points out?

I just want to know if I can easily cash out my points when my family travel pattern changes or my kids don't want WDW anymore. Thanks a lot,

The actual process isn't too bad, especially if you go through a third-party vendor or if you have experience in renting out properties. Now, getting someone to actually rent them at times when they'd be available could be tougher. Ultimately, as the owner, you share the biggest responsibility for that account, though.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

How difficult/easy to rent your CCV points out?

I just want to know if I can easily cash out my points when my family travel pattern changes or my kids don't want WDW anymore. Thanks a lot,

DVC points rent pretty easily. You can do it yourself or contract thru a broker who would find the renter for you. If it's a short term change it's not a bad thing to do but if the family has no desire to visit WDW anymore then selling the contract also can be done pretty easily. Or at least that's the history up until now but it's always difficult to say if that will continue.

 

[Granny]

I agree with @sleepydog25 and @KAT4DISNEY ... it is not difficult to rent out points especially if you use a broker. But as Kathy said, if you get tired of WDW after the kids are grown, selling your contract would be the easier way to go rather than paying annual dues and renting out the points.

There is also the stipulation in the ownership contract that you cannot rent out your points as a commercial enterprise. If Disney sees you renting out 100% of your points every year, you could be in trouble with your contract.

I always think that DVC is the best investment when the owners (parents) have a strong affinity for WDW and plan on visiting even after their children are grown. While history has indicated that getting money back by selling contracts has allowed people to recoup their investment, there is no guarantee that situation will continue in the future.

 

[harbourxie]

I agree with @sleepydog25 and @KAT4DISNEY ... it is not difficult to rent out points especially if you use a broker. But as Kathy said, if you get tired of WDW after the kids are grown, selling your contract would be the easier way to go rather than paying annual dues and renting out the points.

There is also the stipulation in the ownership contract that you cannot rent out your points as a commercial enterprise. If Disney sees you renting out 100% of your points every year, you could be in trouble with your contract.

I always think that DVC is the best investment when the owners (parents) have a strong affinity for WDW and plan on visiting even after their children are grown. While history has indicated that getting money back by selling contracts has allowed people to recoup their investment, there is no guarantee that situation will continue in the future.

Thanks for the responses. It is my understanding that most owners think renting out is relatively easy and I do hope this is the case for me. However, if this is really the case, how come there are foreclosures? Are all the foreclosures within DVC using financing? I paid cash for my contract. If renting out is not an issue, I will be very comfortable about signing my contract (I got the package yesterday). I don't think that my family will lose interest in WDW but I am just taking the worst scenario into consideration. Thanks,

 

[Roxyfire]

Thanks for the responses. It is my understanding that most owners think renting out is relatively easy and I do hope this is the case for me. However, if this is really the case, how come there are foreclosures? Are all the foreclosures within DVC using financing? I paid cash for my contract. If renting out is not an issue, I will be very comfortable about signing my contract (I got the package yesterday). I don't think that my family will lose interest in WDW but I am just taking the worst scenario into consideration. Thanks,

Could be that, also could from not paying dues in a timely manner or at all. There's probably a subset of owners who are unaware or untrusting of the rental process. Remember, people are paying dues every single year per point regardless of whether they finance or not. So if someone got a hefty loan to cover their purchase and have to pay dues as well, the rental may not cover all the dues. Especially if they are at a lower demand resort. Or just things happen in life and people just don't prioritize and take care of financial commitments before it's too late. That's my thinking anyway, I'm sure more experienced DVCers can chime in on that.