SDFP: CHANGES COMING!! Beware the 7th of June?!

[PolyRob]

Thanks for the clarification

so a potential strategy could be to PPO garden grill breakfast, ride soarin. Ride test track on your own prebooked FP+. Ride frozen later in the day on a CPFP. Watch illuminations from the FP viewing location at the end of the night. IF you have enough donor tickets to draw from you could basically book a tier 1 and nothing else on each to transfer over.

You would still need to have used two tier 2s prior to transferring the second tier 1, or pre scheduled them and let the windows completely pass (if this is still valid after the change)

 

[stardam]

The suggestion is that would no longer work as her band would not have scanned in at the entrance.

I read it as the wife was at the park & got sick but you're right. I wouldn't work if she wasn't there at all.

 

[John Byers]

Why can't everyone, oh I don't know. Follow the system the way it was designed and not try and game the system. It amazes me how the moral compass of our country is so "me, me, me" centered. I have found I enjoy the moment, experience and have slowed down when I am at the parks now. Taking it all in and "smelling the roses" if you will. I enjoy my trips much more now.

 

[Lisa F]

This appears to be true for now. However, the way I used it that day was to schedule overlapping FP+ at adjacent attractions for him and me. So, the FP+ schedule may have looked like this:
Me - 9:30- 10:30 JC
Him - 10:00 - 11:00 PoTC
Me - 11:00 - 12:00 Splash
Him - 11:30 -12:30 BTMRR
Me - 12:30 - 1:00 HM
Him - 1:00 - 2:00 PP

After tapping the HM FP+ touch point at 12:30, I obtained my first SDFP and he got his at 1:00 after entering Pan. Then I filled my time with lunch and a visit to Philharmagic, the parade started and I was able to get on Tomorrowland attractions with little wait. Then I did the SDFP and headed back to the resort since my husband was done with his meeting.

With CPFP, I would have to book 3 consecutive FP+ for myself followed by 3 consecutive FP+ for my husband. Instead of being finished with 6 attractions in 4 hours, it would take 6 hours to do the same number. So, not quite the same but if it works the next time we go to a conference, I'll be fine with it.

it wouldn't really take 6 hours because you could do the following:
9-10 JC (show up at JC at 9:30, same start time as before)
10-11 PoTC (go there right after JC)
do tiki room, get an early lunch before crowds get loco at the CS places, do country bears
11-12 splash (show up there closer to 12)
12-1 BTMRR (right after splash)
do hall of presidents (ie take a nap lol), catch a muppet show (not sure when those are happening but...)
1-2 HM (show up right at 1)
do philharmagic, small world.. whatever other low wait fantasyland stuff there is
2-3 PP (show up right at 2).

At worst it takes you one hour longer (assuming you showed up for PP right at 1) and you still end up in tomorrowland while the parade is going on.

this is the beginning of a rockin' touring plan

 

[DaisyJ]

I would assume in this situation, you would just take your wife's mb. Leaving yours at the resort. No transferring needed

Nope. Tickets are non transferable. So he would be unable to get into the park on his wife's band.

 

[Lisa F]

You would still need to have used two tier 2s prior to transferring the second tier 1, or pre scheduled them and let the windows completely pass (if this is still valid after the change)

oh yes, I know that. My plan was roughly:

PPO at GG, ride soarin' once or twice (we were able to get on it twice at RD one morning so I would FP it this time)
FP+ land 9:30-10:30 (our plan on my last trip was to just get on it but the wait was like 45 minutes after 2 trips on soarin, it really backs up that time of morning)
fp+ figment
fp+ test track
then transfer over spaceship earth, nemo and finish out future world
transfer over frozen
do world showcase
end the night with Illuminations from the fp+ viewing area. I have never seen it there.

 

[Lisa F]

Why can't everyone, oh I don't know. Follow the system the way it was designed and not try and game the system. It amazes me how the moral compass of our country is so "me, me, me" centered. I have found I enjoy the moment, experience and have slowed down when I am at the parks now. Taking it all in and "smelling the roses" if you will. I enjoy my trips much more now.

there is a thread for people on the news and rumors board who wish to bemoan the moral state of disney visitors. This thread has been decided to be allowed by the webmasters and is for discussion of the mechanics of the system.

 

[ScrapYap]

This appears to be true for now. However, the way I used it that day was to schedule overlapping FP+ at adjacent attractions for him and me. So, the FP+ schedule may have looked like this:
Me - 9:30- 10:30 JC
Him - 10:00 - 11:00 PoTC
Me - 11:00 - 12:00 Splash
Him - 11:30 -12:30 BTMRR
Me - 12:30 - 1:00 HM
Him - 1:00 - 2:00 PP

After tapping the HM FP+ touch point at 12:30, I obtained my first SDFP and he got his at 1:00 after entering Pan. Then I filled my time with lunch and a visit to Philharmagic, the parade started and I was able to get on Tomorrowland attractions with little wait. Then I did the SDFP and headed back to the resort since my husband was done with his meeting.

With CPFP, I would have to book 3 consecutive FP+ for myself followed by 3 consecutive FP+ for my husband. Instead of being finished with 6 attractions in 4 hours, it would take 6 hours to do the same number. So, not quite the same but if it works the next time we go to a conference, I'll be fine with it.

It's better if you book yourself only two FP.

you 9:00-10:00 JC (ride at 9:40)
you 10:00-11:00 Splash (ride at 9:55)
him 10:20-11:20 BTMRR (ride at 10:20)
him 11:20-HM (ride at 11:15)
(now book yourself a 12:00 FP)
you 12:00 small world
him 12:20 PP

So you could do six attractions in less than 3.5 hours.

People who have more than one extra ticketed account to use for donors can do it a lot faster - and they'd be best off arriving with only one prebooked FP so they can start transferring (one at a time) immediately after the first ride.

 

[jsmla]

This appears to be true for now. However, the way I used it that day was to schedule overlapping FP+ at adjacent attractions for him and me. So, the FP+ schedule may have looked like this:
Me - 9:30- 10:30 JC
Him - 10:00 - 11:00 PoTC
Me - 11:00 - 12:00 Splash
Him - 11:30 -12:30 BTMRR
Me - 12:30 - 1:00 HM
Him - 1:00 - 2:00 PP

After tapping the HM FP+ touch point at 12:30, I obtained my first SDFP and he got his at 1:00 after entering Pan. Then I filled my time with lunch and a visit to Philharmagic, the parade started and I was able to get on Tomorrowland attractions with little wait. Then I did the SDFP and headed back to the resort since my husband was done with his meeting.

With CPFP, I would have to book 3 consecutive FP+ for myself followed by 3 consecutive FP+ for my husband. Instead of being finished with 6 attractions in 4 hours, it would take 6 hours to do the same number. So, not quite the same but if it works the next time we go to a conference, I'll be fine with it.

This was how I "gamed", "cheated", "scammed", "pick-an-epithet" the system as well. DH doesn't go to WDW more than once a year, if that, and always has unused non-expiry tickets (We purchased several before n/e ended.) attached to his name. The back to back FPs were sweet while they lasted but I'll live.

 

[GrnMtnMan]

Your enjoyment of the parks due to last minute disruptions will in no way be impacted if you can't transfer FP+ from a band that wasn't used to enter a park.

Happy travels.

Just would like to remind you that there are rules on this thread too. Here's an admonishment from the moderator:

Dropping in to remind everyone this loophole thread is allowed by DIS administration to run without arguments nor attacks.

For a full discussion of MM+ and its many loopholes, there is a current thread on the Rumors and News board.

Thanks!

 

[Lisa F]

It's better if you book yourself only two FP.

you 9:00-10:00 JC (ride at 9:40)
you 10:00-11:00 Splash (ride at 9:55)
him 10:20-11:20 BTMRR (ride at 10:20)
him 11:20-HM (ride at 11:15)
(now book yourself a 12:00 FP)
you 12:00 small world
him 12:20 PP

So you could do six attractions in less than 3.5 hours.

People who have more than one extra ticketed account to use for donors can do it a lot faster - and they'd be best off arriving with only one prebooked FP so they can start transferring (one at a time) immediately after the first ride.

if this turns out to be really a thing, can you please include explanations/examples on timing to nest FP+? Is there a time window in which you can change party? you have to do it BEFORE the window opens up, right? so what is the tightest overlap you could realistically make without it being stressful (sometimes riding the FP lines can take a while).

 

[bashuck]

You go to guest relations on entry and explain the situation. Chances are very good they will accommodate you. So, yes, I stand by my blanket statement.

Happy travels.

That would effect my enjoyment by needing to plead with a CM to make an exception to their rules and be worried my daughter will be devastated if they said no. If only they had a way to do it thru an app.

 

[fan1080]

Just would like to remind you that there are rules on this thread too. Here's an admonishment from the moderator:

Thanks!

Happy travels.

 

[DerEchte]

Is nobody in the parks today who wants to risk a blue Mickey? I badly want to know what will happen after a blue Mickey.

Also: Anyone already tried CPFP?

 

[ScrapYap]

For tiered park, I'd do something like this

FP 9:00 - 10:00 Dinosaur (10:00 ride)
FP 10:00 - 11:00 Primeval (10:20 Tap & Skip)
FP 11:00-12:00 FOP (11:00 am ride)
(Now book 12:00 FP on app)
CPFP 10:20-11:20 NRJ (11:20 ride)
CPFP 11:20-12:20 Safaris (12:00 ride)
FP 12:00-1:00 Kali (12:45 ride)
CPFP 12:20-1:20 Everest (1:00 ride)
FP 1:00-2:00 (whatever's available)
CPFP 1:20-2:20 ("" "")

You could tighten up the schedule by riding the Tier 1, then canceling the second Tier 2 - but canceling may have uncertain results?

 

[marciemi]

it wouldn't really take 6 hours because you could do the following:
9-10 JC (show up at JC at 9:30, same start time as before)
10-11 PoTC (go there right after JC)
do tiki room, get an early lunch before crowds get loco at the CS places, do country bears
11-12 splash (show up there closer to 12)
12-1 BTMRR (right after splash)
do hall of presidents (ie take a nap lol), catch a muppet show (not sure when those are happening but...)
1-2 HM (show up right at 1)
do philharmagic, small world.. whatever other low wait fantasyland stuff there is
2-3 PP (show up right at 2).

At worst it takes you one hour longer (assuming you showed up for PP right at 1) and you still end up in tomorrowland while the parade is going on.

this is the beginning of a rockin' touring plan

You've been typing what I've been thinking all day today. Although in this case you could cut this all down by an hour by scheduling Splash and Thunder both from 11-12 and as soon as you scan at Splash, transfer Thunder (while in the window). Heck, you could even make the final 3 FPP's (CPFP) 1.5 hours earlier (using your same first initial 3):

10:30 BTMR
11:30 HM
12:30 PP

Ride Pirates right at 10. Get to Splash right at 11 (10:55 actually) and as soon as you scan transfer BTMR (you'd still be in the window 10:30-11:30). As soon as you scan at BTMR (assume right at the end of the window around 11:30), transfer the HM. You'd still easily make it there before 12:30 (maybe even grab lunch on the way). And you'd scan the last ride (PP) right at 12:30. Doesn't take any longer than before. I'd probably put the ride you care least about at 10:30 on the "transfer" band, just in case timing works out and you don't make it, but as discussed, you have 15 minutes leeway, plus if you're a couple minutes past that, the CM's will undoubtedly wave you through.

 

[marciemi]

if this turns out to be really a thing, can you please include explanations/examples on timing to nest FP+? Is there a time window in which you can change party? you have to do it BEFORE the window opens up, right? so what is the tightest overlap you could realistically make without it being stressful (sometimes riding the FP lines can take a while).

As of yesterday at least, you didn't need to do it before the window opened up.

 

[sunflowerblooms]

there is a thread for people on the news and rumors board who wish to bemoan the moral state of disney visitors. This thread has been decided to be allowed by the webmasters and is for discussion of the mechanics of the system.

So you are enforcing the rules set by the moderators on this thread so that you can discuss ways to get around the rules set by Disney. Got it.
Heading over to the bemoan thread now.

 

[MimiOfTwo]

Forgive me, but I don't understand why extra tickets have to be on a separate MDE. Why can't I just use the extras on my current MDE & change party?

 

[ScrapYap]

if this turns out to be really a thing, can you please include explanations/examples on timing to nest FP+? Is there a time window in which you can change party? you have to do it BEFORE the window opens up, right? so what is the tightest overlap you could realistically make without it being stressful (sometimes riding the FP lines can take a while).

It's a thing already - through Change Party. That's not going to be one of the things that changes today.

You don't have to change party before the window opens. If your last prebooked FP is at 10:00 and you ride at 10:00, you don't have to wait an hour to book another. You can transfer one over right away (or book on app). That's why it can be best to arrive with only one or maybe two prebooked FP. You avoid waiting. My example was the tightest overlap I thought would work - allowing time for a ride and standby. Maybe a little too tight on a crowded day - as you say, standby can be a bit time consuming. Choosing attractions that are near each other definitely helps make a tight schedule work!