Proof The Rumors Are True!!! TCD Relocation Plans!

[Magicbus]

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Oh man, delete that info, quick. And you're from Mass.

 

[Magicbus]

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Traitor!

 

[disney11fan]

Thanks for the positive response to my message re what tcd stood for. By the way go new york...go yankees, go jets and go giants.

The best teams money could ever buy.


To my new england fan club.... How many world series have they won. And do boo a man when he is hurt shame on you.

 

[thecplusplusguy]

Oh man, delete that info, quick. And you're from Mass.

Done!

 

[BradyBz12]

Thanks for the positive response to my message re what tcd stood for. By the way go new york...go yankees, go jets and go giants.

The best teams money could ever buy.

Oh dear...

Might I suggest we get this thread back on topic before it goes horribly wrong and gets closed prematurely?

Pretty please?!?

It's too good a thread to get shut down.



And that's coming from someone that spent her Sunday afternoon/evening keeping a seat warm at the local watering hole rooting for the Pats.

 

[disney11fan]

tcd stands for tri-circle-d. It is the name of the ranch at fort wilderness and it is also the name of one of the members here on the board.

\thanks for taking the time.

Have a great day

 

[FortWildernessCamper]

A very interested lurker just had to comment...

I'm a DVCer and the thought of Villas at Fort Wilderness sound GREAT to me! I love the idea of escaping into nature - Wilderness Lodge does that to a certain extent already and it's a popular resort. The "old west" theme could work for us Americans even (Hi Magdalene! ) if done properly.

I could imagine this being the end of the Fort...a monorail and a couple new marinas with an enlarged lake could make this the perfect transportation port for several DVC properties. As a long range plan, it makes sense. Everyone is having fun speculating what it might be... I am speculating that no one will be happy with what it will be!

 

[Magicbus]

Nah, they won't shut it down. It's all tongue in cheek.

 

[disney11fan]

oh dear...

Might i suggest we get this thread back on topic before it goes horribly wrong and gets closed prematurely?

Pretty please?!?

It's too good a thread to get shut down.



And that's coming from someone that spent her sunday afternoon/evening keeping a seat warm at the local watering hole rooting for the pats.

your right...and i'm sorry. Life is to short to start and have bad feelings. Have a great day.

 

[Magicbus]

a monorail and a couple new marinas with an enlarged lake could make this the perfect transportation port

Monorails, what you see is what you get. Just to get to the MK, I doubt it at about 100 million a mile, give or take 25 million. Half a billion just for that loop can buy lots of boats and buses.

 

[FortWildernessCamper]

Monorails, what you see is what you get. Just to get to the MK, I doubt it at about 100 million a mile, give or take 25 million. Half a billion just for that loop can buy lots of boats and buses.

Thats an excellent point...more boats will allow for character charters. Nothing draws them in like having goofy at the helm.

 

[sillykid]

Sad...
One of they best threads in quite some time and now nothing. This thread along with some other railroad findings of TCD are some of the best on here.

 

[DenLo]

I have a feeling that this new resort, be it DVC or not, will have to have some sort of name unto itself. The "Villas at Fort Wilderness" would end up being a disaster as far as reservations goes. How many people have been given (or tried to be given) a ressie at Wilderness Lodge because the people at reservations are soooo confused? Since there already is a Villas at Wilderness Lodge, just think what having Villas at Fort Wilderness would do to reservations. And people who haven't a clue about where they want to stay would be thinking they're booking one resort, but end up with the other.

Would this mean the theme may be different enough from Wilderness Lodge, so people wouldn't be confused? The Old West train depot might just do that. It will be interesting to see......

Why not Tri Circle Ranch Villas? That is definitely part of the Fort but not similar to Wilderness Lodge, Villas at Wilderness Lodge, or Ft. Wilderness.

 

[Mickey'sApprentice]

Why not Tri Circle Ranch Villas? That is definitely part of the Fort but not similar to Wilderness Lodge, Villas at Wilderness Lodge, or Ft. Wilderness.

I like it !

Just curious, what was the name of the ranch in the original Mickey Mouse Club?

 

[ftwildernessrick]

I could see them designing it more like frontier theme with little of the old West thrown in to make it different than WL.

 

[3gr8kids]

I like it !

Just curious, what was the name of the ranch in the original Mickey Mouse Club?

I believe it was called the "Triple R Ranch", and it was filmed at Disney's Golden Oak Ranch in California.

 

[Tri-circle-D]

Ok, I've been chomping at the bit all day to see what TCD was going to say about this pic that he uploaded to PhotoBucket...

Well, he ain't posting, so I wanted to mention what I noticed about it. See the cannon? See the label that calls it a cannon? See the elevation notation under it? Doesn't that imply that the cannon was in place when the elevations were taken? I think so! So I'll ask again, are the long-time Fort'ers sure they never saw a cannon at the Fort... like around '79-'82? Notice also, they had an ammo carrier labeled due south of the cannon. Pretty cool stuff. I can hear Musket Mickey now, "Hold your posts boys, the French have taken the dock... prepare the 8" gun! Fire!"

Sorry all, but I was off-line for the past four days. So, I have some catching up to do.

Shan-man, I think you are right. The notation of an elevation would suggest that the cannon was there when the data for the drawing was first prepared.

We know from the changes to the dock at the marina and the notations out in the lake that the data is at least ten years old.

Props to all that have posted on this, probably the most interesting read I've seen on this site (although I am a relative newbie here). Anyway, I may have missed it, but has there been any disscussion on the ingress/egress to this new build? Seems like a lot of cars and busses will be headed this way. More than the road from WL can handle? and parking? Just my thoughts. DD

I have some information and photos which I will be posting on this topic.

Traffic to and from this area is a concern of mine, too.

One of the great things about the Settlement area at Fort Wilderness is that there is no motor vehicle traffic around (other than the buses, which stop at the Settlement bus stop).

Back to the cannon for a moment. Here's a pic from page 102 of WDW The First Decade:

From the angle of the pic this wheel could be the ammo carrier serving the cannon noted on the drawings.

Good catch.

I recall seeing that photo before.

I always thought that was a wagon wheel.

But, you are right. It definitely could be the ammo carrier, or even the cannon itself.

TCD has not posted since last Thursday. I'm hoping he made a weekend trip to FW and has dug up some good stuff.

Well, your suspicions were correct.

I was, indeed at the Fort.

And, I did a little looking around.

I will be posting some photos soon. I just need to get them uploaded and organized.

I have a feeling that this new resort, be it DVC or not, will have to have some sort of name unto itself. The "Villas at Fort Wilderness" would end up being a disaster as far as reservations goes. How many people have been given (or tried to be given) a ressie at Wilderness Lodge because the people at reservations are soooo confused? Since there already is a Villas at Wilderness Lodge, just think what having Villas at Fort Wilderness would do to reservations. And people who haven't a clue about where they want to stay would be thinking they're booking one resort, but end up with the other.

Would this mean the theme may be different enough from Wilderness Lodge, so people wouldn't be confused? The Old West train depot might just do that. It will be interesting to see......

I agree with you about the confusion. There is already confusion about Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness being separate resorts.

I just did a massing model, assuming 3 stories, just to see the impact on the Fort:

This is obviously very rough, just indicating the main mass of the buildings, without roofs or balconies, or connecting atria. Once I have a more detailed model I will share it for you GoogleEarth users to play with. I just wanted to sketch something up over lunch.

Cool.

It doesn't look good, does it?

But, one thing that is off on Google Earth is that it makes the trees look a lot shorter than they really are. Having just inspected this area, it looks to me like they designed the layout to take advantage of the big group of cypress trees that juts out into the lake by where the old River Country gazebo used to stand. I think these trees will block the mass of the new buildings.

Sad...
One of they best threads in quite some time and now nothing. This thread along with some other railroad findings of TCD are some of the best on here.

Not to worry, there is plenty more to come.

While you are waiting for photos, take a look at this:

Disney's Eagle Pines Resort

Back in around 2001, Disney planned to develop the Eagle Pines golf course into a DVC resort. Plans were actually drawn and permits were applied for. The project eventually got scrubbed. The land was sold to third parties, and has morphed into the Golden Oak Resort.

The interesting thing is that, as a previous poster mentioned, the architects who drew the leaked plans are the same firm who prepared the Eagle Pines plans. They also designed AKL and BLT.

Not too shabby.

TCD

 

[NLPRacing]

I have some information and photos which I will be posting on this topic.TCD

 

[sillykid]

 

[takeme2epcot]

I recall seeing that photo before.

I always thought that was a wagon wheel.

But, you are right. It definitely could be the ammo carrier, or even the cannon itself.

I can personally attest that this is definitely the ammo carrier. There was this ammo carrier and a cannon in this area. In the very early days of FW, when I was about 6 or 7, this area wasn't fully fenced in and kids could actually play on the cannon and carrier.

A few years later the area was entirely fenced in.

Then a few years later the cannon and carrier disappeared.

Also, did you know that the water wagon predates RC? It, too, was originally part of the playground and my brother and sister and I would climb all over it. I think I have a picture somewhere of my sister and me sitting in the driver seat.

A couple years later (if that long), they painted the RC sign on it.