ROFR Thread July to Sept 2018 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[motherof5]

This is funny because it’s what I did last year. It was my BLT contract I bought for $100pp. It was listed for $80pp, but after having multiple contracts taken, I wanted to live on the edge but not fall off the cliff. The broker told me the sellers were international and just wanted it sold ASAP. It was the UY I was looking for, the right number of points, and a few bonus points without having to pay MF’s. I offered $100pp and passed ROFR by the skin of my teeth. My DH was mad I didn’t try at $80pp, but I told him that was a waste of my time because it was so low. I’d already had two taken at $108pp and $105pp. I don’t regret it one bit. If you do get yours through at $85pp, that’ll be amazing! Best of luck!!!

I would love to see this pass, gives hope to everyone else. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[Bing Showei]

I would love to see this pass, gives hope to everyone else. Good luck and keep us posted.

And this is why the mouse loves his ROFR.

 

[intertile]

intertile---$118-$18404-150-BWV-Oct-0/16, 0/17, 84/18, 150/19- sent 7/18

Will be my last add-on for at least 10 years... just like I said last time in 2016, lol

 

[intertile]

It's anyones guess what will get by ROFR.

To be honest, $93/pt for SSR in today's market is a decent price, but it is not a great deal. Less than 6 months ago, $85/pt was not uncommon. And unlike the precipitous rise in resale sale prices at PVB/VGF/VGC (which saw the biggest jumps in direct prices), there is absolutely nothing that has happened in the market that would suggest SSR should be selling today at prices being asked for, namely in the $110/pt range. Few other resorts have seen this high a delta in the last three months. SSR and AKV have been moved significantly by brokers guided by ROFR numbers.

I really hope your SSR at $85/pt goes through. I agree that it's unlikely, but that would be quite the coup.

Disney has been taking contracts from those 2 resorts at a very high rate lately.(Also OKW) That has in turn pushed brokers to up the prices for prospective buyers.
I got the info from a brokers site, and he referenced the comptrollers.
Here is the link, not sure if it is approved: https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/dvc-right-of-first-refusal-rofr-june-18-report/

 

[Preacherroe]

Preacherroe---$85-$26210-300-SSR-Jun-0/17, 144/18, 171/19, 300/20- sent 6/22, taken 7/18

Welp...strike 2. One more strike and I'll have to sit out an inning.

 

[docwillie]

docwillie---$155-$20800-130-VGF-Jun-0/17, 130/18, 0/19, 130/20- sent 6/29

docwillie---$155-$20800-130-VGF-Jun-0/17, 130/18, 0/19, 130/20- sent 6/29 passed 7/18

 

[docwillie]

docwillie---$91-$18785-200-SSR-Dec-0/16, 0/17, 0/18, 200/19- sent 6/29

docwillie---$91-$18785-200-SSR-Dec-0/16, 0/17, 0/18, 200/19- sent 6/29 passed 7/17

 

[Bing Showei]

Preacherroe---$85-$26210-300-SSR-Jun-0/17, 144/18, 171/19, 300/20- sent 6/22, taken 7/18

Welp...strike 2. One more strike and I'll have to sit out an inning.

Sorry, Preacherroe. Another one for the pillory; an example to anyone who dares devalue the DVC.

 

[disneyeveryyear]

So what does it mean when, while having a contract with Disney awaiting ROFR, I see an identical contract pop back up on a resale website? Same points, same use year, even same ID # listing...but this time for a lot more money. Crazy coincidence, or is something underhanded going on? (And have I grown paranoid by Disney targeting me for ROFR?)

Is it listed with the same broker?

Dan1---$111-$20018-170-AKV-Oct-0/16, 0/17, 173/18, 170/19-Seller pays closing- sent 6/29, passed 7/17

Yay! I have been following along to watch for your result @Dan1 . I am so glad to see this finally passed.

 

[disneyeveryyear]

It's anyones guess what will get by ROFR.

To be honest, $93/pt for SSR in today's market is a decent price, but it is not a great deal. Less than 6 months ago, $85/pt was not uncommon. And unlike the precipitous rise in resale sale prices at PVB/VGF/VGC (which saw the biggest jumps in direct prices), there is absolutely nothing that has happened in the market that would suggest SSR should be selling today at prices being asked for, namely in the $110/pt range. Few other resorts have seen this high a delta in the last three months. SSR and AKV have been moved significantly by brokers guided by ROFR numbers.

I really hope your SSR at $85/pt goes through. I agree that it's unlikely, but that would be quite the coup.

I ended up paying $100/pt at SSR in May/June. When I started looking in April/May I was planning to offer $92/$93 but then when I became involved on these threads I was seeing SSR bought back at up to $95 routinely, and even $97 occasionally. I had found one contract and placed an offer, to lose to another buyer, and then I found the perfect contract with correct UY, and loaded (double points for 2018), so I decided to offer asking price of $100, it also had another offer on the table, but if I offered asking, there wouldn't be any further negotiations, and I liked that factor also.

As I look at sites now, I can't believe they are asking $110-$120 for average number of points (150-250) at SSR and the contracts aren't even loaded.

I guess I am glad I purchased when I did. Congrats to the $91/pt. SSR that just passed though. That could have saved me some money.

From the April-June thread that I used for my thought process, these at SSR were all taken. Emphasis bolded by me.
SSR:

ajjonesehc---$89-$24854-270-SSR-Mar-72/17, 270/18, 270/19- sent 3/9- taken 4/3

DaveNan---$90-$15085-150-SSR-Dec-50/17, 150/18, 150/19- sent 3/12, taken 4/3

rwatson626---$86-$18630-210-SSR-Feb-0/17, 0/18, 210/19, 210/20- sent 3/20, taken 4/10

Mtob88---$92-$13274-130-SSR-Dec-35/17, 130/18, 130/19- sent 3/22, taken 4/11

thumper729---$92-$15300-160-SSR-Oct-0/17, 0/18, 160/19- sent 3/21, taken 4/11

TexasChick123---$85-$14297-150-SSR-Mar-38/17, 150/18, 150/19, 150/20-Seller banked 2017 pts- sent 3/26, taken 4/17

Erika Ambourn---$92-$18022-185-SSR-Mar-0/17, 160/18, 185/19, 185/20- sent 3/28, taken 4/19

Calculator---$90-$22500-250-SSR-Apr-0/17, 0/18, 250/19-Seller pays closing- sent 3/31, taken 4/29

Jerry5788---$88-$15528-160-SSR-Mar-81/17, 160/18, 160/19- sent 4/11, taken 5/4

Blacklablover---$90-$18750-200-SSR-Dec-0/17, 36/18, 200/19- sent 4/12, taken 5/7

wfishy5---$89-$25724-270-SSR-Mar-0/17, 174/18, 270/19- sent 4/13, taken 5/9

Thumper729---$95-$14725-150-SSR-Oct-0/17, 2/18, 150/19- sent 4/16, taken 5/14

Courtney924---$95-$10110-100-SSR-Apr-0/17, 100/18, 100/19- sent 4/19, taken 5/16

Samucy---$83-$19333-210-SSR-Dec-7/17, 210/18, 210/19- sent 4/9, taken 5/21

eaglesrest---$89-$29038-300-SSR-Dec-12/17, 125/18, 300/19- sent 4/27, taken 5/25

JimBoWyn---$90-$9647-100-SSR-Mar-0/17, 0/18, 100/19, 100/20- sent 4/3, taken 4/20

Calculator---$95-$22325-235-SSR-Oct-0/17, 9/18, 235/19-Seller pays closing- sent 4/30, taken 5/30

Jerry5788---$90-$34601-350-SSR-Apr-0/17, 700/18, 350/19- sent 5/11, taken 6/11

michaelv---$86-$28233-300-SSR-Oct-8/17, 300/18, 300/19- sent 5/9, taken 6/11

Buzz's Buddy---$91-$18200-200-SSR-Sep-0/17, 0/18, 200/19-Seller pays closing- sent 5/10, taken 6/11

Preacherroe---$90-$23230-250-SSR-Jun-0/17, 17/18, 250/19, 250/20- sent 5/14, taken 6/14

thumper729---$97-$16065-160-SSR-Dec-0/17, 9/18, 160/19- sent 5/21, taken 6/18

 

[Bing Showei]

I ended up paying $100/pt at SSR in May/June. When I started looking in April/May I was planning to offer $92/$93 but then when I became involved on these threads I was seeing SSR bought back at up to $95 routinely, and even $97 occasionally. I had found one contract and placed an offer, to lose to another buyer, and then I found the perfect contract with correct UY, and loaded (double points for 2018), so I decided to offer asking price of $100 (it also had another offer on the table, but if I offered asking, there wouldn't be any further negotiations, and I liked that factor also.

As I look at sites now, I can't believe they are asking $110-$120 for average number of points (150-250) and the contracts aren't even loaded.

I guess I am glad I purchased when I did.

When you look at the big picture, what's a $5 difference on a 200 point contract? It's not even one (of 36) year's worth of ADs. Buying into DVC is a much more expensive proposition than just the initial outlay.

I'm of the mindset that if you find the perfect contract for you and your family, that hits on exactly what you need, and if it's honestly something you can afford to do, it's not worth nickel and diming or risking ROFR. To me, "fair market" is much lower than where prices are now, but one man's fair market may be another man's lowball. But ultimately, it's wherever one is able to enter into a contract.

I don't imagine that, years into a contract, a lot of buyers look back lamenting, "Oh, I should've offered X dollars less." Because, let's be honest, by then, the amount they've paid to enjoy Dole Whips annually has dwarfed any potential negotiation savings - loving every minute of it notwithstanding.

 

[Eric R]

Eric R---$90-$23310-250-SSR-Sep-0/16, 0/17, 86/18, 250/19- sent 6/28, taken 7/17

No real surprise :-/

 

[Carlymouse]

I ended up paying $100/pt at SSR in May/June. When I started looking in April/May I was planning to offer $92/$93 but then when I became involved on these threads I was seeing SSR bought back at up to $95 routinely, and even $97 occasionally. I had found one contract and placed an offer, to lose to another buyer, and then I found the perfect contract with correct UY, and loaded (double points for 2018), so I decided to offer asking price of $100, it also had another offer on the table, but if I offered asking, there wouldn't be any further negotiations, and I liked that factor also.

As I look at sites now, I can't believe they are asking $110-$120 for average number of points (150-250) at SSR and the contracts aren't even loaded.

I guess I am glad I purchased when I did. Congrats to the $91/pt. SSR that just passed though. That could have saved me some money.

From the April-June thread that I used for my thought process, these at SSR were all taken. Emphasis bolded by me.
SSR:

ajjonesehc---$89-$24854-270-SSR-Mar-72/17, 270/18, 270/19- sent 3/9- taken 4/3

DaveNan---$90-$15085-150-SSR-Dec-50/17, 150/18, 150/19- sent 3/12, taken 4/3

rwatson626---$86-$18630-210-SSR-Feb-0/17, 0/18, 210/19, 210/20- sent 3/20, taken 4/10

Mtob88---$92-$13274-130-SSR-Dec-35/17, 130/18, 130/19- sent 3/22, taken 4/11

thumper729---$92-$15300-160-SSR-Oct-0/17, 0/18, 160/19- sent 3/21, taken 4/11

TexasChick123---$85-$14297-150-SSR-Mar-38/17, 150/18, 150/19, 150/20-Seller banked 2017 pts- sent 3/26, taken 4/17

Erika Ambourn---$92-$18022-185-SSR-Mar-0/17, 160/18, 185/19, 185/20- sent 3/28, taken 4/19

Calculator---$90-$22500-250-SSR-Apr-0/17, 0/18, 250/19-Seller pays closing- sent 3/31, taken 4/29

Jerry5788---$88-$15528-160-SSR-Mar-81/17, 160/18, 160/19- sent 4/11, taken 5/4

Blacklablover---$90-$18750-200-SSR-Dec-0/17, 36/18, 200/19- sent 4/12, taken 5/7

wfishy5---$89-$25724-270-SSR-Mar-0/17, 174/18, 270/19- sent 4/13, taken 5/9

Thumper729---$95-$14725-150-SSR-Oct-0/17, 2/18, 150/19- sent 4/16, taken 5/14

Courtney924---$95-$10110-100-SSR-Apr-0/17, 100/18, 100/19- sent 4/19, taken 5/16

Samucy---$83-$19333-210-SSR-Dec-7/17, 210/18, 210/19- sent 4/9, taken 5/21

eaglesrest---$89-$29038-300-SSR-Dec-12/17, 125/18, 300/19- sent 4/27, taken 5/25

JimBoWyn---$90-$9647-100-SSR-Mar-0/17, 0/18, 100/19, 100/20- sent 4/3, taken 4/20

Calculator---$95-$22325-235-SSR-Oct-0/17, 9/18, 235/19-Seller pays closing- sent 4/30, taken 5/30

Jerry5788---$90-$34601-350-SSR-Apr-0/17, 700/18, 350/19- sent 5/11, taken 6/11

michaelv---$86-$28233-300-SSR-Oct-8/17, 300/18, 300/19- sent 5/9, taken 6/11

Buzz's Buddy---$91-$18200-200-SSR-Sep-0/17, 0/18, 200/19-Seller pays closing- sent 5/10, taken 6/11

Preacherroe---$90-$23230-250-SSR-Jun-0/17, 17/18, 250/19, 250/20- sent 5/14, taken 6/14

thumper729---$97-$16065-160-SSR-Dec-0/17, 9/18, 160/19- sent 5/21, taken 6/18

We went through a similar research process. We thought a stripped contract for $95 would be a small risk but still passable. We ended up settling for one that did have current points for $97. We're pretty sure it will go through, but as you noted it's still not a sure thing. I haven't posted it here yet because we haven't gotten our official email that we're in ROFR (waiting on seller paperwork). These July postings for SSR are encouraging though.

 

[aokeefe]

aokeefe---$96-$16127-150-BRV@WL-Dec-150/17, 300/18, 150/19- sent 7/2, passed 7/18

 

[Javin917]

Javin917---$130-$18477-130-BCV-Jun-0/17, 130/18, 130/19- sent 7/18

So I feel a little (ok a lot) silly posting this because I had asked for advice and we basically did the opposite, but I know I liked going through all of the listings posted so wanted to add ours! In the end, we decided to buy where we wanted to stay (and plan to stay in 2 bedrooms instead of squishing all 5 of us into 1 like we originally thought) and have home resort advantage long term. We figured every place we wanted to stay with the kids would be easier to get at 7 months than this, and when we go on our own, near Epcot is where we want to be! Now just hoping we make it through ROFR!

 

[Jerry5788]

aokeefe---$96-$16127-150-BRV@WL-Dec-150/17, 300/18, 150/19- sent 7/2, passed 7/18

Wow nice contract with the 2016 points still able to use before YE

 

[aokeefe]

Wow nice contract with the 2016 points still able to use before YE

Thanks- hoping we can snag a few days at Vero Beach with the banked 2016 points.

 

[CatNipRules]

Catniprules---$105-$18243-160-SSR-Feb-0/17, 160/18, 160/19, 160/20- sent 7/4 Passed 7/18

I wasn’t expecting to hear about it today. Emailed my broker and got the good news.

 

[Timmy-4boyfam]

Timmy-4boyfam---$135-$24975-185-CCV@WL-Dec-0/16, 0/17, 18/18, 185/19-Seller pays CC- sent 7/2, passed 7/18

 

[Preacherroe]

docwillie---$91-$18785-200-SSR-Dec-0/16, 0/17, 0/18, 200/19- sent 6/29 passed 7/17

Congratulations! $91 pp is reasonable. I'm hoping this means the feeding frenzy has been satiated for a while.