mshanson3121
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Getting up early doesn’t put special or medical need guest at a disadvantage. It just puts people who don’t want to get up at a disadvantage.
People who CAN'T. But whatever.
Getting up early doesn’t put special or medical need guest at a disadvantage. It just puts people who don’t want to get up at a disadvantage.
What condition prevents someone from getting up at a certain time?People who CAN'T. But whatever.
What condition prevents someone from getting up at a certain time?
My father in-law has suffered from a mild form of sundowner’s syndrome for several years. That is tied directly to the sunset. I am aware that there is a corresponding sunriser’s syndrome but that is not tied directly to any specific time of the day, but rather follows a person waking up from any sleep.
Instead of being dismissive, why don’t you try to educate if there is a serious issue that would prevent people from arriving at the park early for a VQ? If you do that you might actually be able to change how Disney is currently operating.So predictable and not worth it.
Wouldn’t those just be FP with a different name?People here saying boarding groups is only answer for the ride while it's unreliable. This might be true but there is no reason these can't be booked 60 days out for onsite guest.
People who CAN'T. But whatever.
And while I understand the time issue that some can't or don't want to get there before 7am, this aspect isn't different than other WDW experiences.I have been thinking about ROTR and Boarding Groups and MMRR and so on.
I am unhappy, but, only because it doesn't fit with what wold make me feel less anxious! So, that's not really valid to the whole population trying to ride these rides.
I have been trying to think about it objectively.
I would prefer FP, because I am on site, and I can try sooner.
BUT, is that the MOST fair option? I mean for the newest, most in demand rides?
I am not sure. I mean, it's a good idea to have perks for being on site, because it certainly costs a LOT more.
Are first thing in the morning BGs the most fair? I think, it's not a bad way of doing it, if you REALLY want to ride, then you'll get up early enough. And that's a pretty level playing field? Especially with the uncertainty and unreliability around capacity etc.
I have tried to think of a disability that would be unduly impacted negatively by the early morning first come first served thing, and I am not sure. I admit there is bound to be something I haven't considered, but, my autistic son would get up if he really wanted to experience it, he might then struggle if he didn't get to ride that day, but, that is what it is I guess, for now.
Personally, I don't want to get up that early on vacation, the whole point of being on vacation is not to have to do that, but that is my choice, so I do not envisage riding ROTR - but IF I were a huge SW fan, I would probably get up for it.
I really DO want to ride MMRR, but, I will make a decision on FP day, if Fps become available, then I would try to get one, if not, then, I would just have a look at standby times on the day.
I can't really see a fairer way of doing BGs
Also true! I have booked a tour that starts at 8am. I will get up for that, because it is something I *really* want to do. It didn't occur to me that they should offer this tour later because I prefer to get up later on vacation. I have also booked a late night event. I *might* stay til the end, but, if I am flagging, I won't. it's a vacation, so, relaxing is important.And while I understand the time issue that some can't or don't want to get there before 7am, this aspect isn't different than other WDW experiences.
Ticket parties go to midnight which isn't ideal for everyone and they leave early. Fireworks at 10pm lock other people out at times. EMM tickets and even amEMHs start way earlier than most people prefer, but they deal with it when it's something that interests them.
Nobody has offered a better alternative.
most days are getting well into 100s of board group. You could issue 80 boarding groups before the park day and then fill the rest on the dayWouldn’t those just be FP with a different name?
Disney adjusts the number of BG each day based on how the ride is running and how many (if any) recovery FP were distributed the previous day. They can’t predict that 60 days in advance.
People here saying boarding groups is only answer for the ride while it's unreliable. This might be true but there is no reason these can't be booked 60 days out for onsite guest.
If this was a free concert or event then yes the fair way to do it would be boarding group at Park opening so everyone has equal chance. But this is a payed place. People spending more money to the owners should have more advantages or why give the owner more cash. They will see a drop in hotel guest if they don't keep giving guest a advantageThis is a funny comment in a conversation about fairness.
I'd like it. I'm an onsite guest with a 10+ night stay coming up. But wow, talk about unfair to anybody who isn't like you or me.
I was thinking about this. They will likely close SE when TT comes back up or when Ratatouille opens (though I would prefer after summer). It seems that Soarin' could become a Tier2 when SE closes, or when SE comes back online or Guardians opens. The more Tier 1 rides they have the more reason they'll have to push Soarin' to a Tier2. SE is currently a Tier 2, but when it reopens it will be popular for a while as everyone wants to see what changed, so it will need to be a Tier1 for a period of time.I would think it would remain Tier 1 through the Test Track refurb and the Ratatouille opening. Then it will probably be Tier 2.
I have seen pictures too, on several sites, of the FP and Standby entrance. FP for Mikcey's will be a thing, even if it isn't on day one.Re FP+ at runaway railway, I'm sure I saw a dedicated FP+ entrance in some of the video coverage posted this past month. Before someone asks where I saw it, I really can't remember which outlet. It may have been on the vlog that can't be named. Being video, I thought it credible. I could have mixed it up with something else but don't think so.
If this was a free concert or event then yes the fair way to do it would be boarding group at Park opening so everyone has equal chance. But this is a payed place. People spending more money to the owners should have more advantages.