If I'm understanding correctly, they didn't inform Queenie of their plans and let the old bat hear about it through social media. If so, awesome!!!
And they get to keep the house and other things gifted to them!!! Excellent!!!
All reports that came out from "royal sources" say this has been in discussion and the Queen very specifically asked them to not go public. She pulled the four teams (her, Charles, William and Harry) so that they could come up with a plan for them that was within what they wanted to pursue but also fulfill some duty for his "perks". She was blindsighted when they directly went against that while in the middle of conversation.
They don't own the house so they should have no expectation to be able to stay there if not doing their job ... unless they rent/lease which also came out as a solution. Gifts, of course they should get to keep those.
Oprah encouraged them to leave and start their own brand.
My question.... their own brand of what?
They trademarked S
ussex Royal with the plan to use for their brand. UK trademark office approved it but I'm sure with thought process to protect the royal sussex family from others doing so. Not sure they anticipated it would be used for commercializing the royal family apart from the nuclear family.
Direct from the Trademark file ....
- Printed Materials; long list including books, greeting cards, photographs, pen, pencils etc.
- Clothing; every kind you can think of, head, food, tops, pants, hats, sportswear etc.
- Campaigning; promotional, awareness, charity, volunteer, community, info, advisory, consulting, internet
- Charitable Fundraising; listing lots of ways
- Education; long description and covers just about any type of including conventions, sports, entertainment
- Social Care Services; support, counseling, mentoring, licensing of intellectual property, consulting, internet
https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003408521
They clearly have been planning this exit for quite some time, maybe since before they even got married. They are smart and put into place trying to legally continue to use the royal name. Whether truly for philanthropic purposes or commercialization for their income .... hard to tell. But the optics aren't good and they really didn't handle this well, and I wouldn't mess with the Queen.
No one who has ever divorced an HRH has managed to keep that title, and the only previously divorced person ever to marry into the royal family who has been granted the right to use it is HRH the Duchess of Cornwall (Camilla.)
This particular title is normally only granted to the children & grandchildren of the sovereign, who can also decide to withhold it. Losing it would be a nasty blow to the Duke & Duchess of Sussex, given their ambitions in the area of charitable endeavours. That magical HRH is a proven money magnet when it comes to attracting large donations.
Losing the titles would kind of mess with their "brand" a bit. No Sussex, No Royal...how fitting.
AGREE. Given the history of keeping aka not keeping titles and the fact that it is already being discussed to remove their titles and the conversation this has been a long term thought process since they didn't give Archie a title but did give him a last name (not used by royals).
If they lose titles ... I wonder if there will be some conflict from the royals/crown in them keeping the trademark. It is certainly a huge negotiating tool for Queen.
Of course he made the right decision. The whole idea of a Royal family nowadays is all a farce and a bit old fashioned to me.
He had an interview where he basically said he doesn't want the same thing to happen to his wife as what happened to his mum. Why anybody even cares about their decision is incomprehensible for me.
I don't really think anyone cares what they do, and wouldn't say anything more than good for you if they left and were independent. But that is not what they are asking. They want to quit their jobs and do their own thing using the royal name commercially AND still keep their titles, their large paycheck and live in the estate they don't own. An estate that was renovated for them at great expense. The royals do produce lots of income for UK but they also cost them plenty.
Diana was the world's Princess, the interest in her was off the charts. How she was treated by royal family, particularly Charles fueled the interest and support of her. I understand his fears as he seems to carry great pain for what happened to his Mom ... but I really don't see the comparison at all between his mother and Meghan. Honestly I think that he is using this excuse as his exit door. He's never been happy being part of the royal process and I believe he was always trying to get out and he found a woman that would help him do that.
Is it really true that the queen has custody of any heirs? That is beyond screwed up if true. Get out Harry & Meghan while you can!!!!!!
If they still “work” in some capacity then they should get compensated. And who cares if they go off on their own and profit from their titles. He is a prince, he was born that way.
300 years ago there was a royal issue and the King was proclaimed custodian of royal grandchildren. I think it's a proclamation, a royal rule but would it hold up in court now? Probably not but who has even tried? The closest situation would have been when Charles and Diana divorced, where did the kids live? Was Diana kept close to keep control of them? And does it even count for Great Grandchildren. Honestly if the Queen is who people are trying to make her out to be ... why would she want to keep him? Perhaps if he truly had a chance at being King it would be tested but he's not baring a tragic accident to many.
What about Prince Andrew, though? Is it ok for him to keep any money he receives?
It has been stated he stepped back from PUBLIC duties and attendance other than military due to his rank and war veteran status. He will still be doing all his work behind the scenes with the 200 some charities under his watch as long as they continue working with him.
His paycheck comes from the Queen's private income so she can do as she pleases. His own public money would be for travel for public duties and he will no longer be doing that so taking no public money.