You can report the posts you feel violate guidelines. Simply click the "Report" link.Why is this thread allowed? Totally political.
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It does no such thing. Read the bill to find out what it actually says.The bill seems to require (Or rather prohibit teachers from maintaining confidentiality) teachers or school officials to out a child to their parents if the child confides in them that they are Trans or gay unless they feel disclosure would lead to abuse abandonment or neglect.
Not a lot, only a small number of cases that got a lot of attention in conservative press. The bill is to prevent it from spreading and coming to more schools.
Specifically, what happened in those cases were schools bringing up the topic of sex changes in elementary school class discussions (even in primary grades), encouraging a child to change genders, including calling the child a different name & pronouns at school, while intentionally keeping it a secret from parents, who they suspected might be unsupportive of their child pondering a sex change. The secrecy is especially problematic, given that in some areas, minors can obtain sex change drugs and procedures without parental consent.
The bill doesn’t take away rights from anyone, but instead gives rights to the parents of kindergarten to third grade students concerning their children’s education. Many parents think teaching any sexuality to 5-8 year olds isn’t age appropriate and would prefer those topics to be discussed in the home, and a public education to be the basics such as math, science, language arts and history.
Not a lot, only a small number of cases that got a lot of attention in conservative press. The bill is to prevent it from spreading and coming to more schools.
Specifically, what happened in those cases were schools bringing up the topic of sex changes in elementary school class discussions (even in primary grades), encouraging a child to change genders, including calling the child a different name & pronouns at school, while intentionally keeping it a secret from parents, who they suspected might be unsupportive of their child pondering a sex change. The secrecy is especially problematic, given that in some areas, minors can obtain sex change drugs and procedures without parental consent.
What about the rights for the parents of the other twenty kids in the class who are too young to have sexual identity instruction at age 5-8? That’s not the teacher’s job - he or she is to teach educational subjects and let morality to the parents and the church. If there is such an issue as you described, a note can go home to the parents and they discuss it with their child how they see fit.It takes the rights away from a trans child's teacher having a discussion in class about a name change, pronoun change, etc. Having a friend whose child is in the 3rd grade, and trans since kindergarten, it's important to be able to have that discussion with students beforehand.
This scenario of yours happens a few times a year in our small high school, but I've never heard it ever happening in elementary school. Parental approval/disapproval is much stronger with younger (elementary) aged kids. Of course, we support all kids up here in MA, no need to legislate this kind of stuff in a sensible state. I think Florida is crazy!
https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/mothe...shing-student-to-identify-as-transgender/amp/Would like specifics on this....when, where. who, plus documentation. Because i believe it hasnt happened.
https://go2tutors.com/transition-closet-explained/Would like specifics on this....when, where. who, plus documentation. Because i believe it hasnt happened.
Cheese.Baloney.
Unfortunately, teachers are put into the position of parenting. I think most teachers would prefer not take that roll. The New York Post story reveals as much about the teacher as the PARENT in my opinion. As a parent, I would hope that I have a good understanding of the feelings my child has about a wide range of subjects.
This will be a tool they use to bully schools into not being able to correct a student using a slur, not answer a simple question of a student or even just acknowledge different students lives and realities.
Baloney.
You should learn more about comprehensive sex education. There are developmentally appropriate lessons for kids starting in kindergarten (for instance, about safety and bodies). I have kids this age and 100% am grateful that they attend a school where teachers present developmentally appropriate information and am troubled by people who want to offer legislation that hurts my kids and family, and the citizens who encourage it or are complicit in it (such as comments like yours).[
The bill is about teacher-led discussions. You just gave examples of student comments, not teacher-led discussions. Teacher-led discussions of sexuality (including sex, sexual orientation, sex changes) in elementary school are what the bill is trying to prevent. There is absolutely no need for an elementary school teacher to lead discussions about sexuality.
Yes, as gender (and sex) are things taught and coded into society pretty early (similar to how kids need to learn about race and racism because those lessons make it in even before kindergarten). I don't think the idea is that every person who is trans (or non-binary) will know that as a kid - things unfold in different ways. Meanwhile, if I can be bullied and physically harmed for being gay in 3rd grade (which is when it began), certainly we can give kids resources and information to know more about that (fyi, I'm not gay - though I'm bi - and my 3rd grade teacher said, "Well, gay is my first name - so that's what they mean" which made absolutely NO sense since I was literally beaten up while being called "her first name").Can children as young as this really know whether they are trans or not? I’m not saying they can’t but I was pretty clueless when I was little so it’s fascinating to me.