It actually has had very little affect on 60 day availability (if any). It is a tiny fraction of guests who even have the option let alone take advantage of it. The first few days of a trip 7DMT, SDD, & FOP are going to be hard to get regardless.Well no wonder all of the best FP+ are gone at 60 days. I am all in on Disney, but they are certainly trying to chip away at it. I didn't like when the off-site hotels got the 60-day window. This is nuts.
The first few days of a trip 7DMT, SDD, & FOP are going to be hard to get regardless.
I’d drive myself crazy thinking each trip = DVC total cost.Because we are already competing with off-site hotel guests. This can't help. It's another money grab at the expense of those who pay (tens of) thousands to come frequently.
I have the AKV Jambo one waitlisted for June. Have 1 night 1BR and then also 2 nights studio at end of SSR stay waitlisted to try it out. Fingers crossed.I need to check the box of club level once. Saving points as we chat!...
My math isn't as generous. But we stay 1BR most times and have 450 points, some of which bought direct at hefty price. And our APs are only used about 10-14 days so I'm not sure what the per day cost would be...have to check. Plus we get TIW card at what, $150 now? And then all the dining. We do 1-2 TS a day including many signatures. And do the Epcot festivals...those booths really add up when just tapping that MB without a care in the world, LOL.I’d drive myself crazy thinking each trip = DVC total cost.
When I break it down, I’m paying about $240/night (dues plus divided point cost/Mickey math, not amortized) to stay in a Poly LV studio this summer. That room had a rack rate of $850/night, it’s still $500 with a 30% discount.
And my daily price of my Gold AP will be about $30.5/day.
Both of those are a lot more than they used to be, but we are still getting a darn better deal than many.
I wouldn’t be against getting more loyalty perks, but I think we are doing OK vs the cash guests paying a lot more.
I mean, 7DMT has a throughput of 1300-1600 riders per hour. No one should really think a majority of a day's passes are being taken at cost by Club Level. The numbers do not work.
I wasn't able to get it last trip either. But have gotten it other trips before. I just go right to the end of our week and book that very first thing on 60 day window.I never said they were taking a 'majority'. Are you saying that onsite guests are taking all of the FoP FP+ and locking them out at 60+? Granted Disney IT is atrocious (another thread completely), but if it is working, I have not been able to book FoP (specifically) for our last two trips when I am right on at the 60-day window at the open (first ability to book FP+). I have had the mindset 'that's cool we'll be back'. But, it is getting worse; not better.
I wasn't able to get it last trip either. But have gotten it other trips before. I just go right to the end of our week and book that very first thing on 60 day window.
I never said they were taking a 'majority'. Are you saying that onsite guests are taking all of the FoP FP+ and locking them out at 60+? Granted Disney IT is atrocious (another thread completely), but if it is working, I have not been able to book FoP (specifically) for our last two trips when I am right on at the 60-day window at the open (first ability to book FP+). I have had the mindset 'that's cool we'll be back'. But, it is getting worse; not better.
It's not that they are all booking up right at 7 am on day 60, its that multiple on site and off site hotel guests booked that fastpass 60+4, 60+5 and later days out. It forces us to take longer trips if we want the "good" fastpasses at the tail end of the trip.
Yep. I am trying for June trip. Will just go to the last couple days and book. Might try to book it on 2 days, the last 2. Last time I had a FP for it, we couldn't make it on. Ran out of time. So I aim to book it twice. Probably a lofty goal, I know.I am hoping to get it for the Friday of our SB trip (Sat-Sat). Fingers crossed.
Yep. I am trying for June trip. Will just go to the last couple days and book. Might try to book it on 2 days, the last 2. Last time I had a FP for it, we couldn't make it on. Ran out of time. So I aim to book it twice. Probably a lofty goal, I know.