Another week, another shooting

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  • LSUmiss

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    I know you posted "mass shootings" BUT what are the statistics for shootings for every race? OR even murders for all races? The problem of why the shootings, not who did the shooting.
    Not true. The reasons for why the shootings changes based on who did the shootings. Motivation for mass shootings of innocent victims is usually far different from inner city crime often related to drugs & poverty.
     

    kandb

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    NRA seems upset too. Here's a nice whiny tweet those punks had posted earlier:

    "Someone should tell self-important anti-gun doctors to stay in their lane. Half of the articles in Annals of Internal Medicine are pushing for gun control. Most upsetting, however, the medical community seems to have consulted NO ONE but themselves. "
    That is ONE person. Don't categorize a group on one persons stupid post.
     
  • amberpi

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    I know you posted "mass shootings" BUT what are the statistics for shootings for every race? OR even murders for all races? The problem of why the shootings, not who did the shooting.
    If we were talking about crime en toto, I'd cite those stats. For mass shootings, it is what it is. This thread is about yet ANOTHER mass shooting in the US. But, if you want to start a new one and discuss crime overall, cool. I'll play along:)

    ETA: Those statistics are interesting too. I mean, the person who is most likely to kill my WASPy butt, is my equally WASPy husband.
     

    LSUmiss

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    The thing about mental health is that many people don’t know they, or their loved ones ARE mentally ill... And even if they do, it being diagnosed/documented is a different issue. Not only that but the spectrum of mental illnesses is so vast it would be hard to draw the line as to who is fit and who isn’t fit to own a firearm. There has to be a more universal way to strengthen regulations and laws, it can’t depend such a subjective criteria.
    Other issue if we are going to call extreme racism & hatred mental illness, there would be no treatment or prevention.
     

    cruiser21

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    And this is why this problem will never be solved in the USA - some people are more upset by comments on a friendly message board than the fact of 12 people randomly being murdered in a mass shooting.
    Friendly message board might be an overstretch, but the thread seems to be going better then most.
     
  • kandb

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    I think a lot of these shootings have to do with the breakdown of the American family. Families are not the way they used to be when I was growing up. Parents are not as involved in their childrens lives and unfortunately, approximately 50% of children come from broken homes. I know many will not want to hear this but I think it has really contributed to many children growing up unstable.
     

    Chernabog#1fan

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    I agree, but explain the Swiss - they have loads of guns and we don't hear of constant mass shooting incidences. What's going in America at an even more fundamental level, right? I think it's lack of (mental) health care resources.

    ETA: This same lack of health care resources is probably why our drug crisis is so shocking.
    This is a great question. Just a few thoughts I have on it and I have not read all of the pages, so forgive me if this has already been said.

    The level of happiness in other countries is much higher. I know other countries have mental illness, but the level in the US is much higher. There is very little recess in school. Most families have both parents working and working way beyond typical working hours. We do not have easy access to affordable healthcare. Our foods are way more processed than other countries which is proven to impact mental health. We do not teach kids responsibility or coping skills the way most countries do. We have extreme levels of rich and extreme levels of poverty. Our military is larger than most 1st world countries and have been involved in more war, therefore resulting in more military with PTSD.

    Those are just a few of my thoughts on why we have these issues versus other countries.
     

    cruiser21

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    Not racist. Irish & American are not a races.
    They said white. Is black a race? Most people despite their color come from different countries. I always thought racism was based on skin color. In fact I'm 100% sure that's what it's based on.
     

    cruiser21

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    This is a great question. Just a few thoughts I have on it and I have not read all of the pages, so forgive me if this has already been said.

    The level of happiness in other countries is much higher. I know other countries have mental illness, but the level in the US is much higher. There is very little recess in school. Most families have both parents working and working way beyond typical working hours. We do not have easy access to affordable healthcare. Our foods are way more processed than other countries which is proven to impact mental health. We do not teach kids responsibility or coping skills the way most countries do. We have extreme levels of rich and extreme levels of poverty. Our military is larger than most 1st world countries and have been involved in more war, therefore resulting in more military with PTSD.

    Those are just a few of my thoughts on why we have these issues versus other countries.
    I agree with everything you said except the extreme rich and poor. We have high percentage of middle class. We are not a socialist country. I'm guessing most people on this board fall into the middle class category.
     

    LSUmiss

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    It's still extremely racist. There's plenty of people killed by guns by all races in this country. Mass shooting are dramatized on TV, but lots of people are killed in the inner cities everyday. The media seems to ignore that. I wonder why that is?
    But they are less likely to involve completely innocent ppl at least in my city.
     
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