Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[_auroraborealis_]

I wonder if they would change the itinerary?

They would have to change the embark port, which is pretty major, and then find a way to meet PVSA rules on top of that.

AK is unlikely to happen for any but the small American lines sailing from Juneau this year.

 

[Karin1984]

To give an update from the Netherlands. We have had a press conference with updates for our 'exit strategy'. From June 1st (movie) theaters can re-open, with max. 30 people per show, including staff. If all goes well, per July 1st we can scale up to 100 people.

So for the theaters we will start with one man/woman shows etc. but the big musicals with dozens and dozens of actors, musicians, and everyone else, will have to wait for a while.

 

[hnthomps]

That's the 1 million dollar question!

Maybe even the Billion dollar question!

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

But cruise lines do make efforts to get people who need hospitalization to the nearest hospital. E.g., if someone has a heart attack or a stroke or a broken bone onboard, they'll re-route the cruise to get them to port. Cruise ship medical facilities don't have the kind of set up where they can put someone on a ventilator in a medically induced coma. The cruise line is not just going to let someone die when they could get them to a hospital, but nor do they really want to be in a position where they are taking on a type of passenger that is at high risk of needing a hospital since it is so potentially disruptive to the cruise itinerary to have to re-route--hence why they don't let pregnant women past x number of week son.

All that said, I don't think they'll apply an age restriction because they'll lose too many passengers. Too many grandmas and grandpas paying for big family trips.

The pregnancy rule exists because at 24 weeks a fetus is viable if the mom has early labor that cannot be stopped. The baby would need a high level neonatal intensive care which a ship cannot provide. Cruise lines don't want that responsibility for the outcome. Some 23-weekers survive but DCL chooses 24 weeks as the cut off. Premature labor resulting in delivery earlier than that is not viable so it would be the same sad outcome whether that early labor occurred onboard or in a top notch hospital.

Never mind, I just realized we're in agreement! lol! I really need to not skim read so quickly.

 

[Snowwhyt]

To give an update from the Netherlands. We have had a press conference with updates for our 'exit strategy'. From June 1st (movie) theaters can re-open, with max. 30 people per show, including staff. If all goes well, per July 1st we can scale up to 100 people.

So for the theaters we will start with one man/woman shows etc. but the big musicals with dozens and dozens of actors, musicians, and everyone else, will have to wait for a while.

Does that include required masks?
Are temperatures taken at the door?
Are “at risk” recommend to stay home?

 

[harriet2]

Does that include required masks?
Are temperatures taken at the door?
Are “at risk” recommend to stay home?

Masks are only required in public transport (because if it will get more busy, you probably won't be able to keep 6ft distance). No mention of temperatures being taken (also read somewhere that it might not be allowed to do that here) or recommendation for the "at risk" to stay at home. Everybody is still advised to work from home when at all possible.

 

[Karin1984]

Does that include required masks?
Are temperatures taken at the door?
Are “at risk” recommend to stay home?

Like Harriet said: No masks.
I think what you read, Harriet, is an article about can an employer force an employee to take a temperature check. I haven't fullly read it, and it was a while ago, but I believe an employer can't because it's medical information. And only medical personnel should take temperature checks, but don't shoot the messenger if it's wrong

The update we received in the Netherlands yesterday for our exit strategy is partially the same as before: Work from home as much as you can, no unnecessary travel or outings. If you can't stay 6ft away from each other, go somewhere else. Masks are only required when we cannot keep our distance. They have done tests in the public transport, but it's not possible, especially not when in the coming weeks more people will start travelling again because more businesses restart.

Risk groups are just asked to pay better attention and those who aren't in risk groups are asked to keep the risk groups in mind.

Those who have (cold) symptoms stay at home, If these symptoms include fever and shortness of breath, the entire family should stay home.
So only healthy people are allowed to work, and move around, and then masks shouldn't be necessary. Our government hopes and trusts us that people will use this 'freedom' wisely.
Places that can re-open per next Monday (hairdressers, beauticians, close contact professions) or per June 1st (restaurant, museums, etc): But only with appointments/reservations, no walk-ins, they have to scale back capacity to create space between their customers. When you enter, they have the right to ask you questions about your health (again hopefully everyone will be honest), and take your contact details. That IF something happens, they can use these details for investigation.

Back to the theater, the theater season is almost over, most theaters are closed in July/August. Many shows are already cancelled, but many theaters or production companies have already said that they will cancel more shows because 30 people including staff is almost impossible for many. They will probably watch movie theaters to see how they are doing, and wait till the audience can be scaled back up to 100 people. Or wait till September and see what the options are for the new season.

 

[harriet2]

Like Harriet said: No masks.
I think what you read, Harriet, is an article about can an employer force an employee to take a temperature check. I haven't fullly read it, and it was a while ago, but I believe an employer can't because it's medical information. And only medical personnel should take temperature checks, but don't shoot the messenger if it's wrong

I thought it was also about entering a store, but it was probably the same article, because mine was a while ago as well, so I don't remember exactly either.

Also interesting, a friend of mine is a professional tennis player and the national tennis center (which they are mandatory to train at two days a week if they want to be funded by our olympic committee) is open since yesterday (also indoors! which is interesting because indoor sports aren't allowed yet), but they aren't allowed to touch balls with their hands (only personal balls, which have their name written on it, if they want to train services), so no mutual matches either

 

[1supermomsmd]

Looking at Port Canaveral Webcam and seeing that the Magic is headed towards Portugal. Are they positioning for Med cruises? What does Disney know? Are things opening up?

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Looking at Port Canaveral Webcam and seeing that the Magic is headed towards Portugal. Are they positioning for Med cruises? What does Disney know? Are things opening up?

They are repatriating crew.

 

[MomOTwins]

Looking at Port Canaveral Webcam and seeing that the Magic is headed towards Portugal. Are they positioning for Med cruises? What does Disney know? Are things opening up?

Yep, someone from the crew posted in social media that the European crew from the 3 ships that were in PC would cross on the Magic and be transferred home from Dover. The Fantasy is repatriating crew to the caibbean. Going to be a long shutdown from the looks of things.

 

[bcwife76]

Yep, someone from the crew posted in social media that the European crew from the 3 ships that were in PC would cross on the Magic and be transferred home from Dover. The Fantasy is repatriating crew to the caibbean. Going to be a long shutdown from the looks of things.

From what I understand from other groups, these crew members who are being repatriated, their contracts are now up and that is why they are going home (plus the CDC is allowing crew to go home). For every crew member who has a contract that is now expired, there are crew who are waiting to come back as their new contract begins. They might not bring them back now as I understand, but they will have crew who are ready to come back (as in they already have new contracts to begin). So repatriating now isn't completely indicitive as to how long this shut down will last.

 

[BadPinkTink]

From what I understand from other groups, these crew members who are being repatriated, their contracts are now up and that is why they are going home (plus the CDC is allowing crew to go home). For every crew member who has a contract that is now expired, there are crew who are waiting to come back as their new contract begins. They might not bring them back now as I understand, but they will have crew who are ready to come back (as in they already have new contracts to begin). So repatriating now isn't completely indicitive as to how long this shut down will last.

Exactly this

People need to to understand that its the Europeans whose contracts ended before the summer season who are on the way to Europe. There is a whole heap of people who have contracts for the European summer season, which were supposed to start with the 11 May Transatlantic.

The first scheduled Disney Magic cruise from Dover is July 25. I have been saying all a long that Disney will reposition the ship to Europe and then pick up the second half of the North European schedule when it is safe to do so. THAT is exactly what is happening. Everyone on here was so so insistent that The Magic would not be going to Europe, well now look whats happening!

Disney have taken the decision to reposition The Disney Magic to Europe and to wait out June and July in Dover and then to restart the remaining European schedule when ever they can. Repositioning to Dover makes sense, as it will be very easy to recall crew and get them to the ship within 24 to 48 hours.

 

[harriet2]

Exactly this

People need to to understand that its the Europeans whose contracts ended before the summer season who are on the way to Europe. There is a whole heap of people who have contracts for the European summer season, which were supposed to start with the 11 May Transatlantic.

The first scheduled Disney Magic cruise from Dover is July 25. I have been saying all a long that Disney will reposition the ship to Europe and then pick up the second half of the North European schedule when it is safe to do so. THAT is exactly what is happening. Everyone on here was so so insistent that The Magic would not be going to Europe, well now look whats happening!

Disney have taken the decision to reposition The Disney Magic to Europe and to wait out June and July in Dover and then to restart the remaining European schedule when ever they can. Repositioning to Dover makes sense, as it will be very easy to recall crew and get them to the ship within 24 to 48 hours.

Except the UK just announced a 14 day mandatory (and enforced!) quarantine for everybody coming from anywhere other then Ireland, so It'll take 2 weeks, not 48 hours to get the CM on the ship

 

[BadPinkTink]

Except the UK just announced a 14 day mandatory (and enforced!) quarantine for everybody coming from anywhere other then Ireland, so It'll take 2 weeks, not 48 hours to get the CM on the ship

and from the reports I have read, the actual quote from The Travel Secretary who mentioned this on The BBC Andrew Mar show, its for travel between now and July and will be reviewed on a week by week basis.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Even if the UK let them in, there is zero reason to believe every incoming CM won't have to quarantine two weeks anyway.

 

[BadPinkTink]

Even if the UK let them in, there is zero reason to believe every incoming CM won't have to quarantine two weeks anyway.

At the moment the UK is not requiring quarantine / isolation on arrival. There are plans to introduce the 14 day quarantine / isolation on arrival which will be published this evening. However it is expected that truck drivers and people working in the shipping industry would be exempt.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

At the moment the UK is not requiring quarantine / isolation on arrival. There are plans to introduce the 14 day quarantine / isolation on arrival which will be published this evening. However it is expected that truck drivers and people working in the shipping industry would be exempt.

I am not saying that quarantine even needs to be required by the government so much as DCL or any other cruise line should require it if they are at all serious about crew and passenger health.

 

[SCFamily4]

I realize there are no answers yet but here’s what is bouncing around my head at the moment ...

assuming the UK mandated 14 day quarantine is still in effect in July ... how do my family and I go about joining the July 25 Disney Cruise out of Dover? We were planning to arrive one day in advance. Do we now have to arrive 2 weeks in advance? And if other countries follow, how are port stops managed? Will museums be open to large cruise groups? Will itineraries be adjusted? Again - I know there are no answers and appreciate the sounding board here!!

Obviously, vacation days were tight enough with The length of the July 25th Northern European cruise. We don’t have the extra days for quarantine(s). And if we cancel due to concerns about the travel to and from the cruise and potentially the cruise port experiences - we lose our money. It’s really frustrating - and we certainly realize we aren’t alone. Thanks for listening/reading

 

[BadPinkTink]

I realize there are no answers yet but here’s what is bouncing around my head at the moment ...

assuming the UK mandated 14 day quarantine is still in effect in July ... how do my family and I go about joining the July 25 Disney Cruise out of Dover? We were planning to arrive one day in advance. Do we now have to arrive 2 weeks in advance? And if other countries follow, how are port stops managed? Will museums be open to large cruise groups? Will itineraries be adjusted? Again - I know there are no answers and appreciate the sounding board here!!

Obviously, vacation days were tight enough with The length of the July 25th Northern European cruise. We don’t have the extra days for quarantine(s). And if we cancel due to concerns about the travel to and from the cruise and potentially the cruise port experiences - we lose our money. It’s really frustrating - and we certainly realize we aren’t alone. Thanks for listening/reading

simple answer, you don't Disney will cancel.

and I would expect major changes in port activities as a given at this stage. I would start checking out the ports now and any places you have booked or are planning to book and see what restrictions and new procedures they have. I would defiantly expect museums to implement social distancing, restrict capacity and possible mandate face masks.