Rise of the Resistance BOARDING GROUPS Superthread Part 1 *No Ride Spoilers Please* *PLEASE READ POSTS 1-4*

[Kellina]

The more phones you try on the better your odds (not sure if there is an advantage of several people logging into one account or people using different accounts with linked tickets—seems that more people here do the former rather than the latter). Whichever way you access the system, once one of you gets in & selects a BG for all of you, everybody else will get messages upon trying to select one that there’s already a BG associated with the ticket & you can’t get another.

Thanks everyone! You've answered my question! We already have tickets purchased and linked so no problem there. Sounds like we'll log into one account and try both phones!!

 

[SirBill]

I personally feel an advance reservation system is more fair.

The only difference between the current BG system and and advance reservation system, is all of the sad people who could not get reservations would be tucked out of sight at home, instead of being where Disney could any least try to cheer them up. Also advanced reservations would greatly open the system to being hacked so that some people would always get boarding groups.

If anything the current system is better because at least only people who make the effort to get into Disneyland/DHS before opening are able to try. With everyone on Earth able to try remotely? No thanks!

The only system that is actually FAIR mind you, is where people who get in line early are the first one to get a boarding group. I've gone to ROTR under both systems now, and the first come first serve system was by the far the one that was most fair and produced fewer unhappy people. You could know on the way if you had a shot, or by looking at lines to get in. Now it's just everyone who can cram into the park by 8am and then a battle royale of phone technology skills to determine the winner.

Now mind you, I'm not sure at this point if the more actually fair system is better. I think what Disney is doing now, is probably the best compromise (but then being good with phones I can rationalize that since I"ve always managed to get a boarding pass so far).

You get ONE reservation per ticket, hopper pass or say one a month for AP holders & multi- ticket holders (limited to riding once a month means EVERYONE should be able to get a shot at the ride).

They could do that without changing the current system. I think you are severely underestimating demand though, I doubt that would help much.

 

[CastAStone]

The only difference between the current BG system and and advance reservation system, is all of the sad people who could not get reservations would be tucked out of sight at home, instead of being where Disney could any least try to cheer them up. Also advanced reservations would greatly open the system to being hacked so that some people would always get boarding groups.

If anything the current system is better because at least only people who make the effort to get into Disneyland/DHS before opening are able to try. With everyone on Earth able to try remotely? No thanks!

The only system that is actually FAIR mind you, is where people who get in line early are the first one to get a boarding group. I've gone to ROTR under both systems now, and the first come first serve system was by the far the one that was most fair and produced fewer unhappy people. You could know on the way if you had a shot, or by looking at lines to get in. Now it's just everyone who can cram into the park by 8am and then a battle royale of phone technology skills to determine the winner.

Now mind you, I'm not sure at this point if the more actually fair system is better. I think what Disney is doing now, is probably the best compromise (but then being good with phones I can rationalize that since I"ve always managed to get a boarding pass so far).



They could do that without changing the current system. I think you are severely underestimating demand though, I doubt that would help much.

Here is the thread for debating the merits of BGs and alternative solutions:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/boarding-group-issues-resolution-thoughts.3787676/

 

[pokee99]

There are other threads open to discuss this. Please.

If you're going to chastise someone for posting a legitimate response to today's entry debacle, and demand taking it to a more appropriate thread, at least have the decency to post the link. Please.


Edit: I see your post above. It's like you read my mind...

 

[EmJ]

ROTR has had a phenomenal day so far, though it appears to be currently down. I've noticed that *if* the ride is going to go down, it seems to happen within the half hour before or after 2:00, or between 4:00 and 6:00. Sometimes both. Sure enough, the mid-afternoon gremlins seemed to have gotten ahold of it around 1:30 today. Hopefully it will be back up and running within the hour. If they can keep it up, there is the possibility of running through a lot of backup groups today.

 

[ZCarroll]

How are the crowds during the day in DCA impacted by this, does anyone know? I really wish they would just open up BGs an hour after opening, that would make things so much less stressful all around and if they get to a point where they can consistently have the ride running right at opening maybe they could have some amount of backup groups from the day prior ride that first hour. I cannot stand standing in nonmoving lines, especially ones with people cutting, it's just not worth the stress to me but my husband really wants to try this ride of course, ugh... instead of being happy and excited I just feel sick thinking about it and am actually dreading it... coronavirus doesn't help!

 

[Ferrellcon]

Can we just appreciate how ops are killing it today? ( touch wood!)

Less than 20 guaranteed groups left and we are almost at 230 pm. Not too bad. Its unfortunate that it broke down.

 

[ZCarroll]

I know it's been mentioned that people were able to scan in to DL and then leave and get BGs elsewhere, like downtown disney and california adventure so I'm assuming it would work to get a boarding group from any of the hotels across the street but I don't think I read of anyone trying that yet, or did I miss that?

 

[HydroGuy]

I know it's been mentioned that people were able to scan in to DL and then leave and get BGs elsewhere, like downtown disney and california adventure so I'm assuming it would work to get a boarding group from any of the hotels across the street but I don't think I read of anyone trying that yet, or did I miss that?

I have not seen that reported in this thread.

It has been speculated that no one could see a reason why that would not work.

 

[vickiea]

The issue is the scanning and picture taking that has traditionally stalled gate entry at Disneyland. This is why they really should just open both sides and allow entry in early at 730 or do anyway with pictures. At 759 it became silent....eary sensation. Really .

Do they do pics everyday for every kind of ticket? I can’t see that info on the DL website anywhere and I want to be prepared with the proper documents etc when we go in a week. Thank you

We will have 4 day park hoopers for Canadian residents.

 

[SirBill]

I know it's been mentioned that people were able to scan in to DL and then leave and get BGs elsewhere, like downtown disney and california adventure so I'm assuming it would work to get a boarding group from any of the hotels across the street but I don't think I read of anyone trying that yet, or did I miss that?

Yes that was reported a few times here. A hotel would work as well, the app only cares if you are scanned into Disneyland. Just make really sure your hotel internet is really better, often hotel WiFi is very bad, and I've found a lot of times cell reception in rooms can be not great.

It still surprises me a little that it works even if you also scan into DCA after you scan into Disneyland but someone did try that and reported that it worked.

 

[HydroGuy]

Do they do pics everyday for every kind of ticket? I can’t see that info on the DL website anywhere and I want to be prepared with the proper documents etc when we go in a week. Thank you

We will have 4 day park hoopers for Canadian residents.

Normally, the first time the ticket is used, a photo is taken and associated with that ticket. I do not recall there ever being a request for a document of any kind. Really they do not care, as long as the same person uses the ticket each day.

For you it will be helpful to write each person's name on each ticket so you know which ticket belongs to each person. It is usually recommended to snap a quick photo of each ticket in case you lose one. And I always write a cell # on the ticket in case it is lost, to improve the chance of being returned.

 

[HydroGuy]

Yes that was reported a few times here. A hotel would work as well, the app only cares if you are scanned into Disneyland. It still surprises me a little that it works even if you also scan into DCA but someone did try that and reported that it worked.

I thought I read here that scanning into DCA does NOT work. What has been reported is that if you FIRST scan into DL, then into DCA, that works.

 

[SirBill]

I thought I read here that scannng into DCA does NOT work. What has been reported is that if you FIRST scan into DL, then into DCA, that works.

I since further clarified my post, I meant scanning into DCA after you had also scanned into Disneyland (as I mentioned in the first half of my post, all the BG distribution system cares about is that you have scanned into Disneyland).

 

[CastAStone]

It still surprises me a little that it works even if you also scan into DCA after you scan into Disneyland but someone did try that and reported that it worked.

I just don’t think they programmed any further logic for it. If the 0 turns to a 1 on “scanned into Disneyland”, that’s the end of the check.

 

[pokee99]

I thought I read here that scannng into DCA does NOT work. What has been reported is that if you FIRST scan into DL, then into DCA, that works.

It's too bad this doesn't work, actually. It would really alleviate the morning crowds waiting for the turnstiles to open at DL...

 

[MonocularVision]

I just don’t think they programmed any further logic for it. If the 0 turns to a 1 on “scanned into Disneyland”, that’s the end of the check.

There is an additional check to see how much you’ve argued over the BG process on this thread too.

 

[OneTrackMind]

Do they do pics everyday for every kind of ticket? I can’t see that info on the DL website anywhere and I want to be prepared with the proper documents etc when we go in a week. Thank you

We will have 4 day park hoopers for Canadian residents.

As @HydroGuy said, they only do the picture once. Just remember to have your proof of Canadian residency because they do check that! I think they only checked one person in our group of four but I’m pretty sure I read last year that they sometimes check each person in the group.

 

[maxacorn]

It's too bad this doesn't work, actually. It would really alleviate the morning crowds waiting for the turnstiles to open at DL...

It's my guess that the reason you need to scan into DL is to confirm you have a pass for DL. If you scan into DCA but don't have a Park Hopper, you wouldn't be able to get into DL. They want to ensure people who get BGs can actually use the BGs.

 

[Aurora0427]

Ditto, and just as a comparison, we were 58 yesterday and got our notification at 2:57 pm. There seemed to be one shut down yesterday, and it was stuck on 49 for a long time afterwords as they cycled people through after.

P.S. Meant to add that we are really glad we decided not to go for a second day. Sounds like even more of a CF out there than yesterday and my stress levels were through the roof with that. I think it was partly that I wasn't expecting it from prior reports, but this weekend the crowds have really arrived. Everything was horribly packed yesterday and last night. Maxpass for CA was gone in the early evening if not before. We were there on Dec. 22-26th and the crowds were much much worse yesterday. I talked to a CM and she said to visit when passes were blocked. I also complained to the Grand about the hotel security line and apparently I wasn't the first. She tried to pass the buck to security, but I told her even if they don't handle it, it is part of the hotel experience that would be reflected on my survey. I must have said the magic words because I was immediately transferred to a very sympathetic manager, LOL.

It was really freaking stressful this morning. I feel like it compromised my morning a bit because I felt off from the stress and even once you get a boarding group, it is such a process getting over there and going through the process when you have kids who are too short or too scared to ride. We are back at the hotel relaxing! Ha!

I’m glad we did it, but even my husband said he’s good waiting until our almost 4 year old grows and inch and then we’ll just all ride together. Rider swap just takes forever even going through the FP lane.