Trial Run for Dogs in Resort Rooms

Do you think dogs should be allowed in guests' rooms?


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Sincere question here...

Why would this particular poll on the Dis be non representative? The Dis is definitely skewed towards veteran WDW guests, and those who love Disney World but I’m struggling why those demographics would have any impact any the accuracy of this poll as representing a broader population.

The results of roughly 85% against this policy has been very consistent since the start of the poll, which is now encroaching 1000 voters.

The poll is about allowing dogs at Disney resorts. I’m struggling why our demographics would skew results. I would say that we are also generally more informed than the general public because a much larger percentage of us have been to WDW and understand the impact.

It’s not like the poll is asking if WDW is a worthwhile vacation destination. A question like that would be heavily skewed by our demographics.

Dan
I never questioned whether it was representative or not. That was several other posters on many pages back. My only point was you can't say "well that's not indicative" just because it doesn't suit your narrative. The same people that are on the DIS here on the boards are people who can be people on FB.
 
Sincere question here...

Why would this particular poll on the Dis be non representative? The Dis is definitely skewed towards veteran WDW guests, and those who love Disney World but I’m struggling why those demographics would have any impact any the accuracy of this poll as representing a broader population.

The results of roughly 85% against this policy has been very consistent since the start of the poll, which is now encroaching 1000 voters.

The poll is about allowing dogs at Disney resorts. I’m struggling why our demographics would skew results. I would say that we are also generally more informed than the general public because a much larger percentage of us have been to WDW and understand the impact.

It’s not like the poll is asking if WDW is a worthwhile vacation destination. A question like that would be heavily skewed by our demographics.

Dan

I'm sure that Disney has polled different groups, at the parks, at resorts, at home. They even do focus groups and have groups who's job it is to know what the current and future industry standards are. They know how many repeat guests versus first timers, the family make up, the ages and if they have a dog that they would like to bring to their dog friendly vacation and who don't mind staying in the dog designated room in the dog wing of the hotel.

:earsboy: Bill

 
Sincere question here...

Why would this particular poll on the Dis be non representative? The Dis is definitely skewed towards veteran WDW guests, and those who love Disney World but I’m struggling why those demographics would have any impact any the accuracy of this poll as representing a broader population.

The results of roughly 85% against this policy has been very consistent since the start of the poll, which is now encroaching 1000 voters.

The poll is about allowing dogs at Disney resorts. I’m struggling why our demographics would skew results. I would say that we are also generally more informed than the general public because a much larger percentage of us have been to WDW and understand the impact.

It’s not like the poll is asking if WDW is a worthwhile vacation destination. A question like that would be heavily skewed by our demographics.

Dan
Again, it is like asking college football fans what there favorite team is while standing at a particular stadium. You are going to get a skewed perspective. Veteran Disney fans who seek out a resort thread for information is a small fraction of people who go to Disney and thus already have a bias. Then when you read this thread a strong bias is being shown, thus it is much more likely a person who disfavors the policy will "vote" in the poll. Again stand outside Bryant-Denny stadium and ask Tide fans what they feel about Tigers (LSU or Auburn) then try to base a decision on those results. It's the same reason political polls are done across the US trying to get a large cross section of people and not just rural Nebraska.
 
Florida as a whole is very pet friendly. We have driven around to many communities on our last 3 Disney trips and couldn't help notice all the dog shops in different community shopping areas. Many housing communities have dog parks and apartments are dog friendly too. The times are changing.
 
Because there is a world of difference between coming in contact in passing and sleeping in a room for days and days that has previously been occupied by a dog for days and days. Tell those with peanut allergies to just sleep in a room with open bags and load up on meds. Doesn’t work.

Hasn't that always been a problem before due to possible Service Dog in room prior to you? Last time I checked Service Dogs don't have the magical power to not shed, drool, or produce dander. Heck, some of them produce hair tumbleweeds or need a bucket under their mouths for how much they drool especially in the Florida Heat.
 
In my family, between myself and my children, we have all of the types of allergies you spoke of above. 20+ years ago, we discovered that we could bring our Food Allergic child to WDW and they would move heaven and earth to accommodate us to keep him safe. Indeed we kept coming back all through the years because it was the only place we felt we could feed him safely away from home. In the past Disney has always gone the extra mile to accommodate families with Special Needs and Health Issues. We grew to depend on their pride in providing a safe vacation experience for fragile children and adults as well. This new Policy goes against everything they've represented themselves to be all these years. It's like they've chosen to do an abrupt about face and basically throw a lot of families under the bus in the process.
How is it an about face? They are still providing a safe vacation experience for families, they are just opening up a small percentage of rooms to a new demographic. It's not like they stopped serving the food at Disney because of your child's allergies-they just made sure there would not be cross contamination so your child was safe-why then do we assume that Disney is incapable of doing the same with this dog policy?
 
May have to do with the size of the resorts (you don't see CA allowing dogs yet). With the sheer amount of resorts at WDW (20+ at WDW vs 7 at DLP and only three at DLA) the corporation may feel it's a good place for a trial run before rolling the dog policies elsewhere. Also county laws may be different in France vs the US
This reminds me of something O/T. I lived in Belgium as an exchangee for a year in 1995/6. There were many other exchangees in the town I was in - all but one of them American.

We trained into Paris often & we were all traumatized by the dogs (mostly little ones) everywhere - disgusted really, we were all disgusted. On the trains, in the restaurants, just everywhere. & the dog poop was so bad we all nicknamed Paris “la ville des crottes” - dog cr-p city.

If indeed that is the law in France, then the French & North American cultures would seem to have swapped views on dogs.
 
Sincere question here...

Why would this particular poll on the Dis be non representative? The Dis is definitely skewed towards veteran WDW guests, and those who love Disney World but I’m struggling why those demographics would have any impact any the accuracy of this poll as representing a broader population.

The results of roughly 85% against this policy has been very consistent since the start of the poll, which is now encroaching 1000 voters.

The poll is about allowing dogs at Disney resorts. I’m struggling why our demographics would skew results. I would say that we are also generally more informed than the general public because a much larger percentage of us have been to WDW and understand the impact.

It’s not like the poll is asking if WDW is a worthwhile vacation destination. A question like that would be heavily skewed by our demographics.

Dan

AND many of us have dogs, love our dogs, travel with our dogs - SO I don't think I am bias against them in the poll ............... but appreciate the fact that DISNEY WORLD is not a good destination for a dog, that keeping our dogs locked up all day is not a good idea for them, us or Disney and that the industry standard in pet hotels is real rules that Disney has decided to throw out the window. And while I have dogs and no allergies or fears ........ I greatly appreciate Disney World has been an ideal vacation for young families, health compromised families, individuals with disabilities, older guests ... and the fear comes that this will expand to all of the moderate/value locations.

I'm sure that Disney has polled different groups, at the parks, at resorts, at home. They even do focus groups and have groups who's job it is to know what the current and future industry standards are. They know how many repeat guests versus first timers, the family make up, the ages and if they have a dog that they would like to bring to their dog friendly vacation and who don't mind staying in the dog designated room in the dog wing of the hotel.

:earsboy: Bill

I get so many survey's from Disney, some really strange ones .............. never saw one on dogs. Never saw one discussed on any social media, usually someone leaks.

I got THREE surveys last week. One was very interesting on MNSSHP, and it was even fancy with Halloween decorations ............

- Am I interested in being able to get FP+ during the parties? o_O

- Would I rather they do Happily Ever After during the party instead of HalloWishes? >:( This alone proves they are a bit out of touch with guests.
 
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Florida as a whole is very pet friendly. We have driven around to many communities on our last 3 Disney trips and couldn't help notice all the dog shops in different community shopping areas. Many housing communities have dog parks and apartments are dog friendly too. The times are changing.
That is probably due to the demographics (seniors) In Fl. Florida has become a major retirement state, new construction is going up like crazy! Sadly, we are losing a lot of green space. I live in a gated community and the HOA is constantly sending out letters about people not cleaning up after their dogs. There are many older dog owners here. People even "walk" their dog while driving a golf cart.
 
Long thread so I'll repeat my situation...booked at POR in January for a group dance trip. Don't know exactly how many people, but I know we need to have at least 30 children to participate in the program. Last I heard, at least 60-70 people.
I haven't been notified by Disney about the policy change at the trial resort that where we're booked. Not sure if that's because it's a group reservation? The group hasn't been notified by either the TA or the Studio (I only know because I check this forum before trips).

I checked in with the TA about it, specifically asking about requesting not to be in the pet friendly area. Here is the response:

"I spoke with my contact in Disney this morning. She said the best we can do is request a no dogs area, which is my intention."

Would have liked a more solid answer, but they wouldn't be able to guarantee anything, especially with a large group so it's what I expected.

My kids and I participated in a road race yesterday raising money to train service dogs to assist children with epilepsy. I ran into several families going on the trip. One knew about the change, but the rest did not. I would definitely have appreciated Disney handling the rollout a little better...wishing the policies were more clear and hoping rules will be enforced...
 
Exactly, yet there aren't "peanut free" rooms at Disney. People with peanut allergies ask for a deep clean and hope for the best (and yes the smallest bits of peanuts can set off the allergy). A person with dog allergies still have 20 resorts to chose from without large worry about dog dander- a person with other allergies (peanut, bees, et al.) don't have the luxury of some many options yet we aren't over run with stories of major allergy outbreaks. Take precautions ( and stop the sky is falling hyperbole) and there won't be problems.
Families of 5 do NOT have 20 more resorts to choose from.
 
AND many of us have dogs, love our dogs, travel with our dogs SO I don't think I am bias against them ............... but appreciate the fact that DISNEY WORLD is not a good destination for a dog, that keeping our dogs locked up all day is not a good idea for them, us or Disney and that the industry standard in pet hotels is real rules that Disney has decided to throw out the window. And while I have dogs and no allergies or fears ........ I greatly appreciate Disney World has been an ideal vacation for young families, health compromised families, individuals with disabilities, older guests ... and the fear comes that this will expand to all of the moderate/value locations.



I get so many survey's from Disney, some really strange ones .............. never saw one on dogs. Never saw one discussed on any social media, usually someone leaks.

I got THREE surveys last week. One was very interesting on MNSSHP, and it was even fancy with Halloween decorations ............

- Am I interested in being able to get FP+ during the parties? o_O

- Would I rather they do Happily Ever After during the party instead of HalloWishes? >:(
I have gotten surveys from Disney as well. One was a couple of weeks ago. Get one after every stay too. Never got one mentioning dogs.
 
Hasn't that always been a problem before due to possible Service Dog in room prior to you? Last time I checked Service Dogs don't have the magical power to not shed, drool, or produce dander. Heck, some of them produce hair tumbleweeds or need a bucket under their mouths for how much they drool especially in the Florida Heat.
Yes, you are correct. The difference to me is that service dogs are an uncommon occurrence. The new policy increases the number of dogs that will be there and increases the odds of all types of incidents beyond simply aggravating allergies.
 
That is probably due to the demographics (seniors) In Fl. Florida has become a major retirement state, new construction is going up like crazy! Sadly, we are losing a lot of green space. I live in a gated community and the HOA is constantly sending out letters about people not cleaning up after their dogs. There are many older dog owners here. People even "walk" their dog while driving a golf cart.
That might be true in your community but where we visited it was very clean. We got out of the car and walked around a lot to explore. Most times we saw young people or kids walking dogs.
 
Families of 5 do NOT have 20 more resorts to choose from.
That was something I mentioned to another poster on an entirely different threadbecause they found their choices fairly limited as well causing them to usually do off-site due to cost and overall accommodations for their traveling party. I do wish Disney had more options for traveling parties. It's often forgotten but the traveling parties don't always consist of 2 adults and 2 children. Adult-only traveling parties do go to Disney as to larger traveling parties than just 2 adults and 2 children. I should also say it would be ideal if they were economical.

For instance when I priced out my trip I just took it was a decent amount less to do 2 rooms at All-Star Sports with 5 total adults traveling than it was to do a suite at All-Star Music. Now a kitchenette is a bonus and so is common living space for all to be with each other but it isn't a bonus for a 29 and 28 year old married couple to have to bunk on a fold out couch nor a 25 year old to sleep on a twin sized chair sleeper.

The two rooms however wouldn't be guranteed to be near each other nor connecting and thus it would make it harder to spend time together as a traveling party.

And for children people don't just have 2 children and even if they did they may not want to have to bunk with them in a bed. They may want to have more options than that in terms of economical sense. Plus the ages of the children. Young children may be ok with the sleeping arrangements of a suite but older children may not be (obviously this all is an individual thing).
 
Did they delete the Disney Parks Blog post? I don't see it anymore. I posted a comment (negative) this morning and wanted to see if it survived moderation. But I cannot find the post anymore.
 
Again, it is like asking college football fans what there favorite team is while standing at a particular stadium. You are going to get a skewed perspective. Veteran Disney fans who seek out a resort thread for information is a small fraction of people who go to Disney and thus already have a bias. Then when you read this thread a strong bias is being shown, thus it is much more likely a person who disfavors the policy will "vote" in the poll. Again stand outside Bryant-Denny stadium and ask Tide fans what they feel about Tigers (LSU or Auburn) then try to base a decision on those results. It's the same reason political polls are done across the US trying to get a large cross section of people and not just rural Nebraska.
Never thought I would “like” a post that contained the words “Bryant-Denny” stadium. ;)
 
Without calling out specific Dis'rs...

I'm leery of absolutes, especially when there is zero information to back it up. Disney conducts focus groups, yes. Has troves of information about guests, yes. Used that information and conducted a thorough study and polling before implementing this new policy? Completely unknown.

and...

I understand the importance of unbiased information, hence my question. The poll isn't asking Disney fans if they like Disney. (clearly biased based on our demographic) It's asking if (non service) dogs should be allowed at Disney resort. I'm looking for a valid reason that the Dis demographic would skew the results negatively or be less accurate than any other poll. Perhaps there is.

I've been following this thread since the very beginning and even then it was clear that people were not in favor. There has been no "I'm piling in with the masses" mentality. The % against has been very steady since the poll was at 10 votes versus when it's been over 900.

Dan
 
That was something I mentioned to another poster on an entirely different threadbecause they found their choices fairly limited as well causing them to usually do off-site due to cost and overall accommodations for their traveling party. I do wish Disney had more options for traveling parties. It's often forgotten but the traveling parties don't always consist of 2 adults and 2 children. Adult-only traveling parties do go to Disney as to larger traveling parties than just 2 adults and 2 children. I should also say it would be ideal if they were economical.

For instance when I priced out my trip I just took it was a decent amount less to do 2 rooms at All-Star Sports with 5 total adults traveling than it was to do a suite at All-Star Music. Now a kitchenette is a bonus and so is common living space for all to be with each other but it isn't a bonus for a 29 and 28 year old married couple to have to bunk on a fold out couch nor a 25 year old to sleep on a twin sized chair sleeper.

The two rooms however wouldn't be guranteed to be near each other nor connecting and thus it would make it harder to spend time together as a traveling party.

And for children people don't just have 2 children and even if they did they may not want to have to bunk with them in a bed. They may want to have more options than that in terms of economical sense. Plus the ages of the children. Young children may be ok with the sleeping arrangements of a suite but older children may not be (obviously this all is an individual thing).
It was this exact problem that prompted us to buy into DVC. We needed connecting rooms guaranteed due to the ages of our kids.

The cheaper deluxes (AKL, WL) for families of 4 are not cheaper for 5 at all. They are more expensive than YC, BC, BW etc.

That leaves suites at ASM ($$$) or AoA ($$$$$) or mods. We prefer CBR, but I know many families of 5 that love PoR. I don’t get why they chose POR, which has such an enthusiastic following. Why in the world not Coronado (a convention resort like YC I believe)?
 
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