New MK Paid Disney After Hours Event Announced

They don't ever publicize ticket limits on events.
...and they always oversell them. At least, recently. So refusing to publicize the number for After Hours suggests that history will repeat itself and sales will be fluid until they reach the magic number where they make lots of money, and complaints are winnowed down to an acceptable level of angst. No one knows what that number is right now. But it ain't 3,000.
 
Oh . .I am sure there are plenty of families that prefer night hours (I would .. IF I was just going with my wife .. but with a toddler? (or even kids under 10)) .. no way would I want to stay out that late after an already LONG day in the park with another potential long day tomorrow at another park.

Also like an above poster mentioned . the cost to keep the park open an extra two hours at night must be immense ..
I am sure it is hard to staff people until 1:00 - 2:00 AM.
How many people are really getting food/souvenirs that late?
Less time to clean the park, fix attractions before the next opening.

Morning EMH .. probably easier to staff (would YOU rather start work at 6:00 AM or stay up until 1:00 AM after a long day?) .. it is only an extra HOUR of staffing (compared to 2) .. and gets people in the park earlier . .meaning they may have breakfast or snacks in the park ..etc. etc.

I've always wondered how many resort guests (what percentage) took advantage of EMH anyway.

I say ditch EMH .. keep the hours of the park consistent and just give resort guests a 4th Fast Pass. I am sure MOST (not all) people wouldn't miss a perk they sometimes didn't use every day for a 4th fast pass EVERY day of their trip.

I would think a 4th Fast Pass would be more of a selling point to do a resort stay than EMH.

Nah. I can get a 4th (or 5th or 6th) Fast Pass after I use my first three. I can't get extra hours without EMH.
 
You could have blinked and missed all the news in just a few days ... as we speak there is a Magical Morning Magic Kingdom event being cooked up that looks like this in reverse.

While I was never skeptical, very curious, because I personally believe EMH will go away in lieu of something Disney will make money on ............ I understand how some people didn't believe it. Lots of boys crying wolf anymore and I think many are just at the point they will want to hear it from the source rather than constantly get upset by what ifs since there are so many. Like has anyone posted that they had to pay to park at a resort to go eat counter service??? after that big uproar.

This was a TIGHT LIPPED CLOSELY HELD event that not even CMs at MK knew about. One guy, who talks like a CM, leaked it. It seems it took about 48 hours for some bloggers to get some info on it, maybe they squeezed the leaker, and announced. Again, even Disney CMs were saying they knew nothing about it. Disney not happy about the situation and they were forced to announce it before they planned. Scrambling happening.

While I didn't think it would happen so soon ......... lots of talk about them cancelling the second MSEP parade. This even coming from inside to cut entertainer salaries which are higher. If that is the case, and they decide to implement early ... that 11:00 parade could go away. Don't remember but doesn't 4/20 stop all parade and Wishes FP+? Maybe more is changing...

But something you said made me think .......... they keep the 11:00 parade and there are day guests in the park but it's an 11 hard close. What if those without wristbands are "shoo-ed" to the Hub area at 11 pm except for those sitting in Frontierland or Liberty Square for parade. Not allowed in Tomorrowland, Fantasyland, Adventureland. After parade folks in Frontierland and Liberty Square without bands will only be able to walk back to Hub and Main Street. Hub and Main Street will not impact the event. Let them shop & eat there. Disney still collects some dollars but they are restricted from all other lands where event is. CMs posted at checkpoints. Could work.
Will be there on may 12...no interest in parade. I plan to use last hour of park time to ride ride ride. If Disney tries to restrict my park use AT ALL before the stroke of 11pm, it wont be pretty over at guest services.
 
21 days out from our arrival at WDW and I'm still faced with determining what days to actually be at each park. This is ridiculous; I really don't want our first visit to MK to be slammed with partygoers. :worried:
 
Phone CMs are clueless about 98% of everything that is operations.

They can read the prices and book things and that is about it.

If guests find out they have paid $149 and others were allowed to roam for free ...... you think people get mad when they seen a wristband-less guest at a MNSSHP that cost half that ....

AND ............................

Last night something popped up on MDE and it appears to be the "backside of water" .... are mornings now on the block?

http://disboards.com/threads/is-this-a-sign-of-things-to-come.3494867/


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...I thought maybe? I should have a newfound appreciation of EMH, after all, this event is ONLY for 7 nights, right (or is it)? NOW I'm getting a little nervous...

Did I sleep until April 1st???? Why do you need to be rude? I posted my opinion like everyone else. No need for sarcasm.

I believe the poster was referring to themself, not you.

OMG... Disney customer service just called me a few minutes ago in reference to an email I sent them last week complaining that they had not released party dates for the Halloween party yet. The chick who called had already left me a message on the answering machine so I already knew what she was going to say which is that the party dates will not be released until sometime possibly next month or early May.

So she starts to tell me the same thing that she'd already left on my answering machine, with the enthusiasm of Ben Stein. I swear I've never heard of less enthusiastic cast member and all my 39 years. When she was done I very politely told her that honestly she had called me at a bad time because I have been in a very poor Disney related mood because of yesterday's announcement of this after-hours nonsense and the discovery that there looks to be also some early morning nonsense coming soon too.

I very calmly told her my thoughts on the matter, that it was ridiculously priced, and that it was a move that has been showing massive unpopularity in the Disney community amongst fans.

She flatly says I can't comment on any of that. Do you have any other questions about Halloween party? Have a magical day. Click.

The bad taste in my mouth seems to be getting a little worse.

Nice lil' magical 'tude, ain't it? I've encountered this myself and it's so odd and off putting. Like talking to a trained robot...

Whew. Just got finished reading the whole thread. I bury my head in work for a week and don't skim the boards and the whole World changes while I am gone. It took me a "heads up" email from Touring Plans to bring this who issue to my attention. Lots has been said. Not sure what I can add. But here are some random thoughts and some replies to previous posts.

  • I am a little surprised at the skepticism some showed toward the OP before it became "official". The "rumor" was broadcast simultaneously by several sources that have proven to be very reliable in the past. As much as we all like to challenge the authenticity of things we read on the internet, when it comes to WDW, rumors posted by certain sources prove to be true far more often than not.
  • For the same price as the ticket for 3 extra hours in the MK, (a park that most people will be going to already at some point in their trip), that same family could spend an entire day at Universal with Two-Park Passes.
  • I know that there has been no suggestion that EMHs are going away, but it seems to me that if Disney really wants to sell tickets to this event, it is doing itself no favors by having EMHs at the MK on Wednesdays that don't cost on site guests extra. And as for the argument that the After Hours event allows off-site guests to get in on the action, well, for as long as the earth has been cooling, Disney has been doing its level best to attract people to its on site hotels. If the After Hours event is being marketed to off-site guests, that seems to undercut their strategy to lure people on site. Unless, of course, if on site hotels are at full capacity and they no longer need to attract more guests. But I don't think that is the case.
  • This Board is comprised of some of the most hard-core Disney fans on the planet and the enthusiasm for this event is sorely lacking here. If the staunchest supporters cannot get behind this idea, will the casual fan?
  • I attended many E-Ticket Nights. They were great. But I paid between $8-$12 for each of those. $149 is way beyond my comfort level for the joy of riding Splash Mountain 4 times in succession without getting out of the log.
  • As for "very limited capacity", will the first person who calls for a ticket and is told that the event is sold out please come back here and post that fact. I won't be holding my breath.


I have plans that are set in stone. Included among those plans is a full day at the MK on 4/21. There is an Electrical Parade scheduled for 11:00 p.m. and I plan on attending that. But now, a few thousand people will be added to the park. So while my original hours have not been taken away from me, something just as valuable has--space. I planned to stay for the 11:00 parade because it is far less crowded. Now? Maybe not so much. We'll see. But space is a valued commodity at WDW, and from 7:00pm-11:00pm, and then again during the parade, space has been taken away from me and sold to others. I consider that "losing something". I would be much happier as a "regular guest" if they didn't allow the hard ticket people in until 10:00pm. Taking space away from me in the park and in the restaurants for dinner is a significant loss.


I'm in the same boat. Just when you think you have done what Disney asks and "locked it in", Disney comes along and picks the lock. I suppose that Disney owes me nothing in this regard, but it is still frustrating.


Given? For how long? When will off-site guests have to pay an extra $12 for their armband?


While that may be true, how many of your middle class friends and how many middle class posters are going to bite on this event? While it is too broad to suggest that Disney does not market to the middle class, it is certainly not a stretch to suggest that this event thumbs its nose at the middle class.


Agree completely. Odd that they would create an event that so obviously limits families of young children. Especially when the event includes no uniquely "adult" offerings. At DHS or Epcot, this type of thing would make more sense. But ice cream and soda isn't going to lure me into a park for an "adult evening".


Agree. As I noted above, if the guests with the deepest passion for Disney aren't going to bite, who will?


Sometimes that is exactly what it means. If you can't sell something to the people who already drop the most money into your pockets, who do you think is going to pay the price? I suppose we will soon find out.


We've been given good reason of late.


I think it has to be true. As noted above, I am going on a day when the hard ticket event begins at 11:00, and there is an Electrical Parade scheduled for 11:00. I can't imagine that I am going to be kicked out before the parade starts. If so, you will be reading about me in the police blotter in the Orlando Sentinel.

Great post. I really like the US 2 day comparison. That's something to definitely keep in mind, especially if they continue on with these type of events.

And, yes, there are those who appear ready to 'shoot the messenger,' even though reliable sources (plural) had already leaked it out into SMverse.

But we should all know BY NOW that's it's going to get posted here before it becomes official...because can't nobody do an unofficial like a Diser can, lol...
 
At $149 per person, I really don't think that is going to be a problem.
I think you're wrong. You're looking at this from a logical perspective and we all know logic and Disney don't mix. The first few nights will "sell out" to generate good reviewed and then all bets are off.
 
Whew. Just got finished reading the whole thread. I bury my head in work for a week and don't skim the boards and the whole World changes while I am gone. It took me a "heads up" email from Touring Plans to bring this who issue to my attention. Lots has been said. Not sure what I can add. But here are some random thoughts and some replies to previous posts.

  • I am a little surprised at the skepticism some showed toward the OP before it became "official". The "rumor" was broadcast simultaneously by several sources that have proven to be very reliable in the past. As much as we all like to challenge the authenticity of things we read on the internet, when it comes to WDW, rumors posted by certain sources prove to be true far more often than not.
  • For the same price as the ticket for 3 extra hours in the MK, (a park that most people will be going to already at some point in their trip), that same family could spend an entire day at Universal with Two-Park Passes.
  • I know that there has been no suggestion that EMHs are going away, but it seems to me that if Disney really wants to sell tickets to this event, it is doing itself no favors by having EMHs at the MK on Wednesdays that don't cost on site guests extra. And as for the argument that the After Hours event allows off-site guests to get in on the action, well, for as long as the earth has been cooling, Disney has been doing its level best to attract people to its on site hotels. If the After Hours event is being marketed to off-site guests, that seems to undercut their strategy to lure people on site. Unless, of course, if on site hotels are at full capacity and they no longer need to attract more guests. But I don't think that is the case.
  • This Board is comprised of some of the most hard-core Disney fans on the planet and the enthusiasm for this event is sorely lacking here. If the staunchest supporters cannot get behind this idea, will the casual fan?
  • I attended many E-Ticket Nights. They were great. But I paid between $8-$12 for each of those. $149 is way beyond my comfort level for the joy of riding Splash Mountain 4 times in succession without getting out of the log.
  • As for "very limited capacity", will the first person who calls for a ticket and is told that the event is sold out please come back here and post that fact. I won't be holding my breath.


I have plans that are set in stone. Included among those plans is a full day at the MK on 4/21. There is an Electrical Parade scheduled for 11:00 p.m. and I plan on attending that. But now, a few thousand people will be added to the park. So while my original hours have not been taken away from me, something just as valuable has--space. I planned to stay for the 11:00 parade because it is far less crowded. Now? Maybe not so much. We'll see. But space is a valued commodity at WDW, and from 7:00pm-11:00pm, and then again during the parade, space has been taken away from me and sold to others. I consider that "losing something". I would be much happier as a "regular guest" if they didn't allow the hard ticket people in until 10:00pm. Taking space away from me in the park and in the restaurants for dinner is a significant loss.


I'm in the same boat. Just when you think you have done what Disney asks and "locked it in", Disney comes along and picks the lock. I suppose that Disney owes me nothing in this regard, but it is still frustrating.


Given? For how long? When will off-site guests have to pay an extra $12 for their armband?


While that may be true, how many of your middle class friends and how many middle class posters are going to bite on this event? While it is too broad to suggest that Disney does not market to the middle class, it is certainly not a stretch to suggest that this event thumbs its nose at the middle class.


Agree completely. Odd that they would create an event that so obviously limits families of young children. Especially when the event includes no uniquely "adult" offerings. At DHS or Epcot, this type of thing would make more sense. But ice cream and soda isn't going to lure me into a park for an "adult evening".


Agree. As I noted above, if the guests with the deepest passion for Disney aren't going to bite, who will?


Sometimes that is exactly what it means. If you can't sell something to the people who already drop the most money into your pockets, who do you think is going to pay the price? I suppose we will soon find out.


We've been given good reason of late.


I think it has to be true. As noted above, I am going on a day when the hard ticket event begins at 11:00, and there is an Electrical Parade scheduled for 11:00. I can't imagine that I am going to be kicked out before the parade starts. If so, you will be reading about me in the police blotter in the Orlando Sentinel.
That sums it up!
 
They don't ever publicize ticket limits on events. This is no different and it doesn't mean they will sell unlimited tickets. Or that there will be enough purchasers to crowd the park. But it's a crap shoot until you see how the first parties go.
E-nights were stated to be limited to 5,000, and there were nights they were sold out.
 
Did I sleep until April 1st???? Why do you need to be rude? I posted my opinion like everyone else. No need for sarcasm.
My reply was not intended for your post even though it came right after yours. Every year on 4/1 somebody posts something to "get" everyone.
Think Rip Van Winkle (sarcasm intended)
 
We're sharing the magic, which in this particular case is the magic of outrage. Communities don't just come together to, as another said earlier, "fart pixie dust"; every community is unique in its own way, depending on its members. Right now, we're feeling ornery, but that doesn't mean we don't also love the Parks.

Kinda like that crazy uncle or aunt every family has. They may irritate or upset you, but deep down you still love them.
 
Yeah it's absolutely ridiculous. I don't know how they're gonna convince people to go to this. I'm sure some still will, but the price is too ridiculous even considering the most expensive other pricing for most Disney goers to consider going to this
 
Not sure if anyone posted the link to today's Disney Parks Blog. https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...of-nighttime-fun-at-walt-disney-world-resort/

I keep seeing people mention "rare characters". This description does not sound like rare characters to me.

"This event will enable participants to enjoy more exclusive time in Magic Kingdom – with quicker than typical access to popular attractions like Space Mountain and the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and character greetings like the ones in Town Square and Princess Fairytale Hall."
 
For me, the jury is still out on this one. Although I wouldn't do it there are too many details that are not known yet. If it truly is limited to just a few thousand people versus 50,000 people I can possibly see it. Having the Magic Kingdom open for just a few thousand people would have to cost a lot just for operating purposes and therefore the higher prices. If it were just a few thousand people you could get a whole day in just a few hours. We shall see.
 
Fascinating that some of the comments have been allowed on the parks blog. Not a one says anything close to "woohoo...can't wait" LOL.

Exactly. I'm picturing someone at Disney "We're shocked, just shocked by this response".
 
I just had a thought on another target customer for this...... the ones who have given upon Disney and are staying onsite at US for their next trip. They could squeeze a little dose of Disney into one night and not be paying this high price in addition to the price of a multi day ticket, onsite Disney dining and hotel.

Maybe Disney would like me to work up a marketing plan for this one? ;)

We've stayed at Portofino three times and two out of those three times I have seen VIP Tour Guides from WDW picking up guests there to shuttle them over for the day. Both times they were Brazilian families (large-ish groups, I assume extended family). I think this absolutely could be targeting onsite Universal customers to come over to WDW for a (very expensive) night. In addition to other groups too of course.
 
Will be there on may 12...no interest in parade. I plan to use last hour of park time to ride ride ride. If Disney tries to restrict my park use AT ALL before the stroke of 11pm, it wont be pretty over at guest services.


As it absolutely should be. I hope you'll post back with your experience.
 

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