You can't believe this is real life...(dad in hospital)

auntie

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Get a call from my sister at 6 am that my dad who is the hospital (congestive heart failure) "fell" out of bed. He has been moved to another area of the hospital.. telemetry. Mind you..my dad had a stroke a number of years ago and is paralyzed on his right side, and aphasiac(great difficulty communicating his thoughts from his brain to his voice)..So communication is always a challenge. Although..if you are patient..you can understand him. In a hospital situation where he is left on his own in a room on a floor...well, it's a disaster waiting to happen. We have dealt with this many times over the years. Honestly..his meds were being adjusted, and his dr. felt he'd probably be home by Friday. I left him yesterday afternoon, and I tell ya..he looked great. ;) Good color..(no blue lips/nails. Back to lookin' like the rosie colored Irishman that he is). Energy was good. Felt like things were looking up. Maybe Thanksgiving won't be spent in the hospital. (It's happened before)
Turns out the guy who was in the room with him, at some point got a hold of a FIRE EXTINGISHER...and either started spraying it around....or swinging it around. We don't know which. At some point..my dad apparently hit the ground. Mind you we only got the call from the hospital "after" he was moved to another part of the unit..but on the same the floor. That nurses station claims they were notifying us..but since it didn't happen on their floor they have little information, except that dad went for X-rays..and a CT scan. Did the guy hit him in the head with a fire extinguisher..did he fall on his head?:confused3 ...We're not getting answers..and of course...my father isn't telling us much at this point. They told us rest assured he wasn't moved for any medical reason, and will likely be back to the old room later today. (that's if he hasn't broken a hip or has a concussion:sad2: )Mind you... they initally just told us he "fell" out of bed...and was moved due to "maintaince issues". My sister right away asked.."there were maintenance issues in the middle of the night, and you needed to move a paralyzed, aphasica man to perform them?..knowing this explanation wasn't passing the smell test. That's when it came out that someone had caused the maintenance issue. I tell ya..we are getting such a run around. I don't care..as long as my dad is alright, but could they just be honest and tell us what's happened. When my sister asked the new nurses station exactly what happened they didn't even want to put a floor nurse on the phone. They said they were very busy..just to "call" my dad directly. She told them.."gee, since he can't SPEAK or MOVE ...I thought I'd call YOU. They were unaware, that the new patient on their part of the floor was aphasiac.
My mom..who looks awful and has a terrible cold..is hacking up a lung all over the place. She is a heavy smoker..so I gotta wonder how much of this is a cold or if there is something else going on. Lord knows, she has her own medical issues. So instead of going to the ER in the hospital..she takes a cab home. Her Dr. can't see her for two days. So, my sister (on her way back from a job interview) is going to pick her up and taker her back to the hospital emergency room. Why she couldn't go to the ER while she was AT the hospital..is beyond me. Well, no it's not. It's because that's just the way she is..and she needs to have someone with her. I can even understand it. :hug: Anyway I have a meeting with the nursing supervisor at 1:00.
I tell ya, I feel like we're living life in a Three Stooges Episode lately. :sad2:
Add to this I have two other siblings who like to add their two cents..but do nothing to help. I'm so done. Only...I can't be. I tell ya..you can't "make" this stuff up. :sad2:
Okay guys..thanks for letting me vent. Had to get that out!....and, oh...I'm sorry if I offended anyone who works in a hospital.
 
Vent all you want Phyllis! First :hug: to you. This "stuff" is so difficult to deal with. I hope your dad is ok and you get to the bottom of what happened.

I understand what you're going through. For the past 10 years my dad has had countless paralyzing strokes, heart attacks, cancer...the list goes on and on. Mom passed in 96, so he relies on us for help. We've been through some nightmarish events concerning his care. Even though I have 4 older siblings, it seems that I'm the only one who can make a decision. Anyway, just so you know there are others of us who understand and will be a sounding board anytime you need it! :grouphug:

Sonya
 
Phyllis ~ :hug: :hug: :hug: Vent away on here, that's what friends are for!
Sorry to hear about your dad, I sure hope he's okay. You said you could understand your dad if you're patient enough, will he be able to tell you what happened? I would definitely want to get to the bottom of this.
I hope your mom is okay, too, and it's nothing more than a cold virus.
 
Auntie keep the faith. You can vent on me anytime, I'm ventproof.
 


I'll tell ya, Phyllis, it doesn't take long for the **** to hit the fan in a hospital. Don't get down too much on the staff for notifying you after your father was moved, though. The decision to move him to another, safer area was made immediately and couldn't be postponed until you consented. I know it's frustrating to try to get info sometimes, but blame it on the reluctance of the staff to give out incorrect information when they may not be entirely sure of all the circumstances. Since they did send him for xrays and a CT scan right away, it sounds like the care is appropriate. After dealing for many years on a geriatric/hospice ward, I can tell you, you wouldn't BELIEVE the stuff that can happen and how fast it can happen. Here's hoping for a speedy release for your dad and some peace for you.
 
I completely understand what you're going through Phyllis. With all that has been going on with my dad and now deceased FIL lately, there have been times that I just think I can't handle it anymore. My FIL actually climbed over the rails of the hospital bed and fell, even though he was too weak to even fathom that happening. So, I understand how things can happen fast.

At one point I told my sis I was through. Told her I just couldn't take it anymore. I told her when we moved my dad into the last nursing home that I was through. She had to be his sponsor and handle everything. Of course, she wasn't even there when they moved him, so I had to sign everything. We had told them she was his sponsor, so I had to sign both our names. Of course, I'm still the one visiting him everyday, and her occasionally, but at least I have help in the decision making.

Hang in there! And vent anytime you want. Sometimes it helps to just tell someone.
 


Hang in there!!

You wonder what crap happens when no one is looking.

Renee's Father had a heart by-pass and the same stinkin' day the monitor that monitors all the crap going on was on a shelf above the bed and the monitor fell on his head. The Nurse was messing with the wires and pulled on them too hard. This just after open heart surgery which has a painful recovery in of itself! They had to make sure he did not tear anything after he about jumped out of his skin. I cannot even imagine the pain he endured from every muscle in your body tensing up all at once from that. Nothing happened but you wonder if you would ever know about this type stuff if for instance he had another heart attack becasue of the monitor falling in his head just after surgery and died. Would we ever know the real reason he had another haeart attack or would they cover it up. I'll bet it happens more than you think.
 
First off :hug: . I have also been thru the whole hospital thing with my Grandma and my Mom. So please vent as much as you need to, we're all here for you and can sympathize. :flower3:
I hope this doesn't set back your Dad's recovery and he can still be home for Thanksgiving.
 
:hug: pixiedust:

Hugs and pixie dust to you Phyllis. Like Gatordad said, we are vent-proof so let us have it. I'm hoping for a Thanksgiving at home for your Dad.

I know it's frustrating to deal with the hospital staff. Like FW Guy said, it also frustrating for the hospital staff that are on the phone since the person you are calling might not know the details you are looking for.

Hang in there, and yell at us whenever you need to! :love:
 
Hugs :hug: and more hugs :grouphug: Vent away. Clearly lots of us have experience.

If you are concerned about what happened and why you got conflicting stories, and if you need something taken care of but can't be at the hospital 24/7 - see if your hospital has a "patient ombudsman" whose job it is to be the patient/family advocate. We went through so much when my Mom and Dad were in the hospital (2001 - 2002 til we lost my dad and 2004 til we lost my mom) and several times we had to consult this person.

I really hope that you dad didn't suffer any ill effects and that he can come home for Thanksgiving. I hope that your mom gets checked out and that there is nothing seriously wrong with her.
 
Sorry to hear about all this, phyllis. Maybe in the coming days, you'll get some concrete answers and find out the real story. I hope you can all be together for Thanksgiving! :goodvibes
 
I'm sorry you're going through all this Phyllis. It will all work out....

Keep us posted
 
As for today..Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse..It got worse. :rolleyes: I went into see dad. Noticed he was "tilted" over as he lay in his the bed. Didn't think too much of it, until I realized it wasn't his paralyzed side, but his "good" side. Spoke with the nurses station. They told my sister and I what had transpired the night before. Pretty scary stuff. First, he was found on the floor at 3 am. I asked about rails..and got something about state law. Only he's been in the hospital A LOT..and never, ever, fallen out of bed. I mean one side of his body is dead weight, and it's a tough transfer, even when he's well, let alone in a weakened condition. Coincidentally the supervisor for the floor he was moved from went home sick. He indicated he had been given an x-ray and CT scan. They said they "asked"..(the aphasiac..paryalyzed man) if he was okay, and he said.."okay". At 5 am...another patient from another part of the floor...who was in the hospital for detox, became irrate. He wasn't restrained and wandered to the part of the floor where my dad was. He then got a hold of a fire extinguisher, and went on a rampage..terrorizing the patients and staff, until he was tackled. The police, fire, and Hazmat departments were called to the hospital. All the patients in my dad's wing were evacutated. That's why they moved him. So this is the night my poor father has. First..he "falls" out of bed. They can't tell us which side of the bed. :confused: Anyway, my dad is thrilled to see my sister and I. He's giving me the thumbs up..and the "lets' go" hand motions. His Dr. is there, and says he's stable..change in meds are working. He's good to go if we are able to take him. Since both my sister and I are there, we figure better now than tomorrow.(I've got to get my mom to Dr. tomorrow). My sister drives to mom and dad's house, gets my dad's handicap accesible van and motorized chair so we can get him home. We have a full time aid that is getting my dad dressed. At which point I can see he's in some discomfort. Appaears sore, and stiff. Figure..he's been in a bed for three days. Only we are transfering him into his chair, and he's screaming in agony. When he's seated, it's obvious the trunk of his body is leaning and he can't get into a straight position. His "good side" is hanging over the side of his chair. The man doesn't care..just wants to leave. I'm worried. I get his nurse, and it's pretty apparent that he may have been hurt in the earlier fall. Now they're checking the chart.
NO X-RAYS were ever taken. Yeah..now I've got to tell this guy who has his coat and cap(Irish wool cap of course) that he can't leave. They have to X-ray him. Well I tell ya..it was NUTS. I mean he was all over in his motorized chair, trying to get out. Only, I just couldn't see bringing him home if he had a broken arm or rib..or back. Only..he didn't care. He wanted out of this place. He didn't care if every bone in his body was broken. All he could say was "nuts!" (he also curses..but that's another story) We actually had his discharge papers in hand. I beg dad, to do it for me. PLEASE. TWO HOURS later, and after my sister totally looses it, and demands to see a nursing supervisor (and security was called, because Dad wound up in the cath lab, and the CICU while wandering around looking for an exit.) We are escorted to X-Ray. Supervisor meets us there, is extremely apologetic. Said if it were her dad she'd feel the same way. Yeah..Yeah. Four burly guys get him onto table, and he's x-rayed. They read it immediately, and nursing supervisor tells us nothing is broken..but he's likely very sore. Ya think?:rolleyes1 Has his Dr. calls in pain med to his pharmacy. As we're leaving.. another supervisor who was fielding questions about the duranged fire extinguisher junkie ran out with flowers for my dad and an apology. My dad had me chuck them in the trash when we got out the door.
I'm not sure how he fell, or if we will ever really get to the bottom of it.
Of course the two who weren't there..are full of advise. Although..not a "thank you". My sister and I could have used a little reinforcement, and having one of his sons their might have helped. They are busy with obligations and commitments with their kids. My sister and I..our kids have lived the past 12 years in ER's and hospitals. They know the drill. My son was 5 when my dad had his stroke and now he's 17. He freakin' drives now..and picks up my niece and nephew from school, and stays with them, helps them with their homework. I mean it's part of what we do as a family. My kids and my sisters kids don't even think anything of it. They don't know anything else. Only my brothers children and commitments are somehow more important. I know..I sound bitter. Mostly tired..been a long day. I feel sometimes my kids have been cheated. God, I hope that I've done right by them. I'm sorry for their having to deal with this. For the dinners they've had to grab out, for the events I've missed. Only...my dad..if you knew my dad. If you knew the man he used to be..and the man that I know still lives inside of the paralyzed one, you'd know why I can't walk away..or have other commitments. He'd never give up on us...never. My dad always used to say..."your son's are your sons till they get them a wife....but your daughter is your daughter for the rest of her life"
I think even back then... he knew his sons pretty well.

Well, he's home..and he was in bed when I left.

My husband had two glasses and bottle of wine waiting for me when I got in.
I think I'll keep this guy.:lovestruc
 
Auntie,
Your teaching your son a very valuable lesson. Family is so important. Your dad must really have been right on the money about daughters. My family everyone lives with in 50 miles of mom & dad but us girls make it there every weekend and help around the house not so with my brothers. My mother has damencha (sp?). Its getting difficult for my dad to take care of her so we try and go over and help. I'm really thankful to have a great support husband son who understand how important family is. It sounds like you do too!
I'm glad your dad is home and so are you! Stay strong and keep the faith!
Cindy
 
Hooray that your Dad is home!

Yes, keep that husband of yours. I can easily see where your son got his caring attitude.

You go, girl! (And keep us posted, please) :grouphug:
 
Phyllis, you sure have been through a lot lately! I'm so sorry! Keep truckin' cause it sounds like things are looking up! I'm glad to hear your dad is home where he can relax and recuperate from his terrible ordeal! He sounds like an exceptional man who is fortunate enough to have a daughter who took after him!
 
Wow, what a nightmare. I am afraid more and more hospitals are becoming drug and alcohol rehab centers in order to "make ends meet." These don't come without their share of significant problems associated with their patients. I can only imagine what your dad would have said had he been capable of it. I hope the worst is now behind you and your family can now move on from this ordeal. I hate hospitals.
 
Hang in there Phyllis. You are doing the right thing by your kids, teaching them the importance of family.

My mothers father developed MS shortly after retirement, and my mother stayed around to help while her brother did not. When times got tough in the economy and there was no longer enough work to support our family in the same location as her Dad, she finally called her brother to tell him it was his turn, that they were heading overseas for a great work opportunity. His reply was to tell her to find him a nursing home. She told him it was his job, do it himself and it took years before they spoke kind words to each other. He lived only half an hour away and had a great job and a house big enough to move his father in.

Be thankful (as I know you are) for the sister who does help, and I am really sorry to hear about what your dad went through. Hearing about the staff member who brought you the flowers reminds me that there are people who really still try to make a difference. Working in a hospital is VERY difficult and almost never pleasant. There were several times that DW (former nurse on a hospital floor) never got time to eat or go to the bathroom for an entire 12 hour shift.

I really hope your Dad is doing better and that you get to enjoy Thanksgiving with your family at home and enjoy the day. Sounds like he's still got the fight left in him and knows his girls are by his side in this battle.
 
Phyllis,
You have the bestest of hearts,,you go girl.
Theres not a lotta good I can personally say bout hospitals, cept once inna blue moon they may get something right.( I hate hospitals ) Key words here are "blue moon and may".
You stay strong and vent anytime.
 

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