Finally A thread I can make. O.K. I will be down July 12 to Aug 14. Maybe my wife will let me where my tie-dye tank top to Bluezoo. Of course I will be setting alone.
It's not a 4 star hotel because of the hotel, not the guests. The guests attire has nothing to do with a hotel's star rating.
And yes, when I'm on vacation it IS MY VACATION AND IT IS ALL ABOUT ME. So long as I'm not walking up to your table and sticking my finger in your spinach dip, what I do or wear on my vacation is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
yay or nay?
Jennasis:
Perfect--if your going camping, or about to wash the car
Or it's summer in Parris Island.
But as I noted in my original post, they are absent from the "not permitted in the dining room" list.
Offensive? Not in the least. I never said anything about offensive or upsetting. Just comical
And certainly inappropriate for a Signature restaurant at WDW where the dress "guidelines" even suggest a jacket is optional.
To me, dress shorts (or even "appropriate" cargo shorts) for a Signature restaurant are ONE color--navy, tan, brown, khaki--maybe even white.
Cammi shorts belong at Ft Bragg, or perhaps McDonalds.
If we have to stick to one color, then what a bummer. As I was perusing the Macy's site (where the pics are from) it seems that plaid is HUGE this season and I found a lot of nice shorts I'd love for DH for the trip.
I'm sorry, but this is just garbage. Bragging about how many vacations that you take every year and how you "only" stay at 5 stars (please note that there are only 57 Forbes 5 star hotels in the world) and decided to "slum it" at a 4 star does not ingratiate you with the natives. It also doesn't give you any credibility. I could claim all of the same things and you wouldn't know if it were all lies, because you don't know me. The truth is, though, that I cannot afford to take 5-7 extensive vacations and weekend "jaunts". But I have stayed in 4 star hotels, and if there were ever a rodent in one it would lose a star with a quickness and no one would be chiding me for being unhappy about seeing one there. The actual criteria for star ratings include cleanliness and customer service. Those criteria can be found http://static.howstuffworks.com/pdf/lodging-criteria.pdf. Also, kids activities are not a star worthy addition.
Many hotels in Europe are given their posted star ratings by their government, by the way, not based on an objective reviewer like Forbes or Michelin. I sincerely doubt that the places you've stayed in are in actuality 4 star hotels. Rather than trusting what they list on their letterhead, perhaps next time you should read the Forbes listing.
Oh, and I checked the Michelin Guide, and Cafe de la Paix doesn't have a star, regardless of how famous it is.Paris has a few rated restaurants, including Astrance, Bristol, Guy Savoy, L'Ambrosie, Ledoyen, Meurice, Pierre Gagnaire, Plaxa Athenee and Pre Catelan. Try to find a mouse in any of those.
IMHO, I see WAY too many men and women wearing hats into restaurants at Disney. Sadly, I have seen this at signature and non-signature.
Hats inside is a big no-no and awful etiquette.
Hats inside for women is fine according to etiquette
(I am not talking about baseball caps...that is not okay for women to wear inside).
I'm glad you find my opinions garbage. I am not bragging, but providing my opinion coupled with my background. If you feel I have no credibility and I everything I'm saying is "all lies," well that's up to you. I don't feel I gain any credibility bc I can afford to vacation a lot, I feel I gain credibility because I spend many nights a year in hotel rooms and I've seen a lot more hotel rooms than most people.
You can also choose to not believe me that I got up close and personal with a mouse in a non-starred cafe (I never claimed the cafe was Michelin rated. Rarely will you find a cafe with a Michelin star) located inside a hotel I was staying in that is rated 4-star by some and 5 -star by others.
Forbes has 57 5-star hotels for 2012. They will rate and include only those hotels that they've visited that year. And by the way they rated hotels in only four countries. That's crazy. How many hotels are in the world? How many reviewers do you think Forbes has on staff? Which is why I do believe in the properties they do visit, but I'm certainly not going to discredit properties not on the list. Why would I want to vacation in the same hotels over and over? Because most all of the hotels on that list are pure cookie-cutter--very luxurious cookie-cutter properties, but quite uniform, nonetheless.
Forbes' criteria are often silly and automatically take some of the best hotels in the world out of the running for small infractions of their criteria which include 550 detailed items (and no, a kids' club isn't included on the list, but the presence of a mandatory CD player is. Sorry, but as a traveler with kids, the presence of a kids' club adds much more to my comfort and experience than a CD player. I haven't used a CD in years.) This is great for business travelers who need to know exactly what to expect, but no so great for vacationers. I've stayed in beautiful and unique boutique hotels all over the world that far outshine the some of the Forbes 5-star properties on the 2012 list, but they would never be considered on technicalities. And I've stayed in superior properties in countries not visited by Forbes.
I personally find that the Disney Deluxe hotels serve their purpose very well. They are not Forbes rated, but they are designed to work within a theme park and I personally think they've done an amazing job. They wouldn't qualify for a rating on many points, but they make up for that in areas that are not considered in the ratings, including kids' care and just pure imagination that is sorely lacking in most luxury hotels all over the world. How does Disney magic work into a rating? I can count how many hangers are in my closet (oh! less than 10? Not a 5-star!) I can check to be sure there is natural stone present in the room (which is why in some properties striving for that extra star will toss in a slab of granite even if it spoils the look of the room!) But what about fun?
How many 5 Seasons have fan sites? Not too many. I love the Five Seasons and I know exactly what to expect even if I'm going to a country or a city I've never been to. But they are all the same to the point where if you don't look out the window, you don't know what country you're in! And we have rating systems like Forbes to thank for that.