Help me decide! Columbus Day or Veterans Day?

Corwin

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We are considering a second trip next year in addition to our May trip. This would be a five-night trip over Columbus Day or Veterans Day weekend (arrive Thursday, depart Tuesday). We are considering these weekends mainly to save a day of vacation for each of us.

We are leaning towards the Veterans Day weekend in November, mainly because we're not as interested in the Halloween decorations, and I'm hoping the crowds might be better in November. We would like to be able to experience Food & Wine at Epcot, though. I understand it usually ends around Veterans Day?

Any thoughts or advice on when we should go would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
I'd pick Veteran's Day out of the 2. I'm not one to be concerned about crowds, but the reports from Columbus Day this year made me change our plans for 2019.
 
Definitely Veteran's Day! Our last October trip will be our last at that time of year for sure.
 
Can't speak to Veteran's Day but we've learned to avoid CD, the weekend prior and the day after. We arrived at WDW the Thurs prior to that weekend and CD and left the Sat following . Crowds were moderate until the first Sat and didn't dwindle until the Wed after. Noticeable difference.

Bill From PA
 


I was there on the 11th and 12th of November this year- 11th was at AK, crowded but manageable, 12th was at epcot (last day of F&W)- very crowded but fine with a good plan & refreshing. We did not venture into the world showcase. By my observations, the crowd seemed to thin out a bit after lunch- I wonder if all those people headed off to the world showcase?
 
We've done Veteran's Weekend for 2 years now. Both times it was the last weekend of Food and Wine. I felt like this year was more crowded than last year. Christmas decorations are up and the weather is nice, so it's a good time to go!
 
Both will be crowded. I would choose Veteran's Day. Like you, I prefer Christmas decorations over Halloween and the November weather is better IMO.
 


How do Columbus Day crowds compare to Thanksgiving? We are considering the weekend before Columbus Day as well as a few days after in 2019. We find Thanksgiving crowded but manageable. If it’s busier than that, I’ll have to rethink things. Can anyone make a comparison?
 
I would pick Veteran's weekend. The weather should be less humid, and as an added bonus Big Bad Voo Doo Daddy usually plays at EPCOT for that weekend!
 
We avoid Columbus Day weekend if at all possible. We found it to be very crowded, seemed to be even more so than our June trips.

I would go during Veteran's weekend for sure.
 
I would advise against going on Veterans Day Weekend. For the record, we were at MK at RD/morning/afternoon and EPCOT on the late day/evening/closing on Saturday, November 10. We were at AK for RD, then HS on Sunday, November 11, and then went to closing of MK that evening.

So, first let me explain. I hate to every use the word expert. In short, whenever you say you are an expert, eventually someone will come along that will make you look like an idiot.

So, what I will say is two years ago we tried to count up how much time I spent in the Orlando area on vacation over my life. We stopped counting once we reach 400 days. That may sound like a lot, but if you figure that I first went to Disney in 1979, averaging a 9 day vacation each year gets you really close to that number. Then when you consider that I have lived in Charlotte for the past 8 years and averaged one week long trip a year, as well as three or four long weekends per year, you get the idea. We have been there at every time of the year, and have had almost every type of accommodations. From DVC to renting a house. Stayed at several different time shares, were concierge level at the Polynesian, and several times at the All Stars. Often I stay off-site at Hilton properties as I am a Diamond member there.

So, when asked by a family member if we could meet them in Disney that weekend, we quickly planned our third trip to Disney since July. No big deal, we left after school on Friday, and drove back home Monday. The kids did not even miss any school.

Having said all of that, this past weekend was the craziest that I have ever seen the parks. Keep in mind, I have been there at Thanksgiving (never did do Christmas week).

From what I can ascertain, this weekend was the perfect storm of the last days of the Food and Wine Festival, Jersey Week, Veterans Day and the filming of the Christmas Specials.

No matter what, we can always find a way to have fun at Disney, and this trip was no exception. However, there were a few things that I saw that were somewhat concerning. Magic Kingdom was packed, almost to a point that I was starting to think it was a safety concern. Back by Peter Pan they had the cast members with the keep right signs. Surprisingly that extended all the way to liberty square. Every ride had a line that approached at least an hour, with the popular ones like the mine train at one point being 150 minutes.

I do not have an issue with alcohol, and I have seen in the past people that have taken the drinking around the world in Epcot a little too literally. However, this trip that seems to have gone up an order of magnitude. As one family member stood on line in Germany for 20 minutes to get a beer, the group of men behind him were yelling and chanting the entire time. Again, think the Brazilian tour group type chants, but on steroids. However, at least they were just having a good, albeit loud, time.

As the crowd levels picked up, I would also say the amount of yelling and cursing also went up. Again, not a prude, and I can talk like a truck driver with the best of them, but I try to watch my language around children. That being said, as more “rides” are added to the countries area of EPCOT, the more children that are there. Again, the entire Norway pavilion has effectively become the Frozen ride. I guess my though was I was missing the old Pleasure Island days. This crowd in that area would have been no issue. However, inside a theme park, I just think it was the wrong place.

But again, this weekend was the busiest I have ever seen, with the exception of Thanksgiving.

I have been concerned about where Disney has been going after the past couple of visits. I attribute a bit to an improved economy, with more people having a few more disposable dollars to do these types of trips. Let’s all be honest, EPCOT is probably one of the most expensive ways to get a buzz on. I guess in part the wine and food festival I thought I would see more people eating food all over, which I think is a great thing. For some reason, in my head I thought we would see a few groups of people on a “Girl’s Getaway”, walking around sipping wine. Obviously, that is not what we saw.

My two younger kids are teenagers, my oldest in her twenties. I am not really worried about them seeing something, we do not keep them living in a bubble. My oldest is actually a paramedic, so we continuously talk as a family about alcohol and drug abuse, the dangers, and what actually happens. Sadly, she sees the effects on a daily basis. So, I am not concerned that my children may see what the effects of too much alcohol will do. I am not afraid that they will hear someone drop the f-bomb, we actually have a joke of was it congregated properly or used as a verb, adverb or adjective.

But, the difference is, we are at Disney. The place that we are supposed to be able to drop our guard a bit. Something about a family friendly environment. If EPCOT is going to become more of an adult park, I don’t have an issue with that. There is a park of me that But I think the extensive amount of drinking does not quite go with the family friendly atmosphere. Years ago I loved going to Rosie O'Gradys, and I loved Pleasure Island. It is too bad both are now gone. I am just not sure that this type of environment can easily co-exist with Arendal, Nemo and Figment.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand that Disney is a company, and a successful one at that. Their main objective is to make money for their stockholders. The Food and Wine Festival brings in a lot of people, especially at a traditionally slower time. By the time it starts most schools in the US are about to if not already started. And it ends just as the Holiday Season is about to start. Disney will do what they can to maximize the amount of money they make, but they have to be careful they do not alienate, and thus lose too many customers (and thus revenue) in the process.
 
Veterans Day - you can see the special flag ceramony and buy a veterans meals or a drink to say thank you
 
We have done both in the last 3 years (2x for Veterans Day 1x for CD).

We usually are there longer and tend to come home on the holiday.

I think that Veterans Day is still better than CD - both have their very busy times though!

We usually go Tuesday to Monday during these times. If you can adjust your missed work days so that you have Tuesday as a Park day instead of Thursday or Friday, i think you will benefit from it.

You should avoid MK on weekends if possible especially as they are likely doing parade taping of a big name and you should go to Epcot in the mornings -if you are there from 11-3 for food and wine you will be done before the drinking groups. We were actually in Epcot from 4-8pm on the final day this year and we did not encounter any craziness or long lines - Germany beer was about 8 minutes but not too bad - most lines were 2-4 minutes.

There are TONS of Christmas decorations up everywhere on property during this time - you won’t see any trace of Halloween!

There were several of us posting in a thread about Jersey week this year and you can see what our trips were like. There was a lot to be said about touring style and park day selections I think. The weekend before Veterans Day was a run disney race and it was a mad house - several reports of crowd level 9s and 10s on that Monday...

Bottom line - neither of these are low crowds or for those not looking to have a plan but also be a little flexible. BUT - the weather in November should definitely make it a nice week even if you have to stay in line!
 
I agree with the majority here.

We’ve done both, and both are very busy. But I find Columbus Day crowds a little heavier than Veterans Day crowds and I prefer the Christmas atmosphere over Halloween.
 
I've been there during both holiday periods and most others as well for decades but it doesn't matter because late fall will be different than year's past, Galaxy’s Edge is supposed to open. If it does open in Nov, that's a game changer.
 
We are going next October but leaving on Sunday the 6th. Columbus day is the following Monday the 14th. Will the crowds be busy sept 29-oct6? Trying to avoid crowds which is why we don't want to go in November due to galaxys edge.
 
I've been there during both holiday periods and most others as well for decades but it doesn't matter because late fall will be different than year's past, Galaxy’s Edge is supposed to open. If it does open in Nov, that's a game changer.

Call me a skeptic but I don’t think it will be open for Veterans Day weekend...thanksgiving *maybe*? But December 10th is also late fall...
 
Call me a skeptic but I don’t think it will be open for Veterans Day weekend...thanksgiving *maybe*? But December 10th is also late fall...
Totally agree but I'm sure there are a bunch of people that might book starting in early November in hopes of GE opening and then even if they find out it's not, won't change their plans. I just feel like 2019 is going to be an even busier mid-late fall than it even has been that past couple of years.
 

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