bigdisneydaddy
Fan of all things Fort wilderness
- Joined
- Mar 27, 2000
Given the rising prices at Disney and my buddy Chapeks antics causing the stock to tank, the prospect of a return to the Fort is getting pretty dim.
We cancelled our Sept trip... I have no interest giving Disney more money when they are deciding to play the politics game- especially when children are involved. We will see if Disney stops pandering, we are going to see what other things there are to explore. It is sad because I feel the magic will be gone if we do go again one day in the future.
Disney is catering and our family is most defiantly NOT in any of the groups they seem to be catering to. I GUESS we will have to check out some Jellystone's to get our Fort fix- there is a huge one here in TX that has a water park and golf carts.
They are removing "princess theme" in a park literally based around Princesses. The irony here is rich.
The movies they have been making for the past few years are dark, twisted, and full of agenda. Nothing has come out in the last two years worth seeing.
When Disney started serving alcohol in the parks a few years ago, I thought to myself that was the beginning to the end of Disney as we all knew it. That magical family place we all loved is unfortunately gone forever.
I have issues with Disney nowadays too, especially the CFO's recent comments. But I have some issues with previous comments in this thread. (And without delving into politics because I'm pretty sure y'all might think I'm part of the problem, ha.)
1) Where are they removing Princesses from Magic Kingdom? Also, was MK really built around Princesses? Fantasyland, maybe, but Adventureland? Tomorrowland? Or, is this referencing another park?
I haven't seen many of the animated films lately, but Encanto seems pretty popular with kids (and adults!). Not sure how it's dark and twisted? I haven't let the two-year-old watch it yet only because he doesn't have the patience for a full movie and I don't want him to request "We Don't Talk About Bruno" all the darn time.
Eh, Disney World has been selling alcohol in the parks for a LONG time. Like, as long as Epcot has been open. Fort Wilderness sells alcohol, too, for at least as long as I've been going. And I've seen plenty of campers imbibing at their own campsites (and the quiet pool, which was definitely not quiet).
Some of those are my quotes, mine. You can take all the issues you want with my comments, I don't care. It's how I feel about it and until someone gives me points, blocks me, or boots me, I'll speak my peace. And I'll still be speaking it on and off this forum regardless.
They are removing the word "princess" that is fact. When mine were little they loved getting all BB up and walk the day away through MK in their princess dresses and being called "princess" at each ride stop, at each princess visit, at the parades, from all the CMs, from the visitors too. It was part of the magic and now they have removed that. CM are now being instructed to not call anyone princess or prince. That is fact. What is next a sign at the entrance of Fantasy Land.....warning, warning, there are princesses in here.....
So tell me.... when the park is centered around a princess castle, when it has built what 4-5 other "castles" and new rides SWMT (doesn't she have a little castle too right outside that attractions?) Beast Castle....that's princess like! The Rupunzel castle.....princess castle. And on and on.....How many meet and greet princesses do we have at MK? The BB....what is that if its not a place for girls to get all princesses up? I see they removed the BB t-shirt that says "PRINCESS" on it too. You can preach all day long that MK is not about princesses, but it is. Until they tear down the castles, it's princess like all over the place!
And I'll stand by my comment on the movies that Disney and Pixar have rolled out. I do want to correct one part....it hasn't been two years, it's been four!
It is not my job to explain to anybody how I feel about a darn thing.
I'm not sure what the definition of "gaslighting" is here. I'm talking about my own family, and feeling more comfortable in inclusive environments. There are campgrounds where we haven't felt very welcomed. If hostile people are boycotting Disney now, this bodes well for us being happy at the Fort.To anyone out there that needs an example of "gaslighting" see delyrium's comment above.
Who is hostile here? Again, please provide me with an example?
It is not my job to explain to anybody how I feel about a darn thing.