Harry and Meghan Netflix documentary

[VandVsmama]

Re: Prince Harry's commentary about his beard - He needs to get a grip. It's a part of your entire identity? Good grief.

And when YOU yourself are a balding man, Harry, don't be a butthole and make snarky comments about your older brother's baldness. Because look at him and that's where you are headed soon.

You know what a lot of bald men end up doing? They just shave their entire head. I think it looks great. I mean, just look at Stanley Tucci, The Rock, Patrick Stewart...the list could go on and on. All very masculine guys who embrace their baldness and they're not being whiny little girls about their head or facial hair.

Just grow up, Harry. Shut the heck up. Go consult with your auras and chakras and if you believe all that stuff will help you, then oh boy, do I have some amazing and really expensive essential oil that will help you.

Oh...and 1 more thing, Harry - getting high on the stuff that was supposed to ease your wife's labor pains is a total butthole move. You are a horse's butt. and you are even more dumb for writing about it in your book. Selfish, spoiled man-child.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I totally agree with Tina Brown's comments. Harry was perfectly fine when the Palace used the media to clean up his messes.

"Tina Brown, a CBS News contributor and author of the book "The Palace Papers," said it was "incredibly touching" and "enormously moving" to hear how Harry dealt with losing his mother as a child. But when he discussed what has been happening over the past few years, Brown said that Harry "is doing some gaslighting himself, frankly, because the fact is ... here he is like selling out his family for money, essentially, when he's talked so often about the agony of being betrayed."

Brown also said Harry was "quite happy" to have the royal palace "spin on his behalf when it suited him," like when he was using drugs.

"He was doing a tremendous amount of drugs. He was totally out of hand ... and yet the palace had to go out and sort of clean up after him and spin and kill stories, and make things go away," Brown said. "They were always doing that for Harry, so he doesn't acknowledge that there's a two-way street here."

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Who knows what the truth is, but if it is "they" asked for Meghan not to attend I can see why. Would she sneak a phone in and video the Queen dead in Her bed? How do you trust her? Are they not both not guilty of what they are accusing others of? Is nothing off limits? He even says the Queen had passed and she was laying in her bed. I feel like more respect would be given if certain things were off limits! I would be in big trouble if every single thing I did was judged. Oh the mistakes I have made. Like all of us.

Yes. Even without the worry of her recording things, it just wasn’t the time or place for her, as the wife of a grandson. The only people who were there were her children (Anne, Charles, Andrew and Edward), some of their spouses (Sophie, Edward’s wife and a favorite DIL to the Queen, and Camilla), and William, as the heir. (Maybe he had to be there for succession purposes or something, which, for his father, took place immediately upon Her Majesty’s death, if I recall.)

Besides William, the heir, Harry would’ve been the only grandchild going. Kate didn’t go, and it wasn’t the place for Meghan, either. Of course, in their minds, Harry and Meghan inflated their own sense of importance and became offended, once again, that Meghan was asked not to come. (After all, she’d become more popular than then-Prince Charles, according to Harry, right? ) But it just really wasn’t the time or place for her to go.

And yes, they had just turned down an invitation to visit the Queen while they were visiting the UK, so there’s that.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/queen-died-charles-anne-with-her-balmoral-b1024527.html

 

[snappy]

If I were Harry, I would likely be saying how much I regret not visiting my grandmother that weekend before she passed while I was in England. Instead he has a chip on his shoulder for being left behind when William, Andrew, Edward and Sophie flew in.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Tina Brown really said it best about how Harry (and Meghan) are selling out the family secrets now for monetary gain. Someone wrote a very Pro-Harry/Meghan opinion piece in The New York Times. But the comment section....is overwhelming tough on them with most of the commenters (over 2,000 of them) calling them out on airing their family grievances for money. And...you're not going to be find an audience that will be more kind to H&M than the mostly liberal/progressive subscribers of the NYT. Even that cohort is saying...."enough".

So again, I come back to...."now what?" for H&M. To me it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. They're getting bad advice, or having their own thoughts on how to move forward reinforced by a circle of "yes-people". I hope it works out for them....I really do, but they're further isolating themselves and in my opinion....seems to have lost their way.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Going back to Charlotte and Louis - I would hope they are having a stable enough upbringing to overcome any of these issues Harry is predicting. Also, Miss Charlotte sassy pants - can you imagine anyone being able to walk all over her?!

I can't imagine the strain this is putting on all the royal family. Regardless of their fame, status and wealth, they are, after all human and a family. It must be awful. And if you've not been given a special mention yet by Harry and Meghan you'd be wracking your brains to recall any incidents or conversations that might put you in the firing line in the next book / interview!

Some say Charlotte looks like the late Queen but I think she looks like Princess Margaret and inherited her spunk.

 

[BayouQueen]

Some say Charlotte looks like the late Queen but I think she looks like Princess Margaret and inherited her spunk.

In some of the pictures, I see a lot of Carol Middleton.
Whichever, Charlotte is going to be a force. Darling girl.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Here's a photo of Lady Sarah Chatto, Princess Margaret's daughter and Princess Charlotte.

 

[Skywalker]

The more I read about this, just makes me sad.

He clearly has idealized his mother to the point, that no human could live up to. And now he has done the same with Meghan. And it seems that she, rather than bring him down to reality, encourages the delusions in his mind. For what purpose, who knows, other than she is a known grievance collector herself and perhaps this makes her feel vindicated.

At the beginning of all this he kind of ticked me off. But now I just feel sorry for him. I don't think for one second his mother would be supporting this circus. She was born and raised in the British aristocracy, and it seems she never wanted her children to bring down the monarchy. She was perfectly willing to raise the heir and the spare. Not that Harry will bring down the monarchy, of course. He will be a footnote in history, if anything.

 

[HopperFan]

What exactly do Harry and Meghan want?

It is an oxymoron to say I have issues with this institution, but I deserve the titles so I can make millions off of it.

It seemed to me that his plan has ALWAYS been to leave and do his own thing, which is fine. I don't know that she knew that she was his answer to leave. I think she thought she was the next Princess Grace, but he was lining things up for failure so they could leave. Not sure they were on the same page.

Once the exit began I really think he thought the titles were theirs to do what they wish, the security will continue in full power, the allowances and open checkbooks would maintain their lifestyle ... that it would all follow them. I mean he has no sense of real world.

At first I thought H doesn't know how blackmail works, that you don't spill everything hoping it will force peace and reinstate his benefits BUT now thinking .... is it possible these emails, texts etc were something of threats that if I don't get what I want then I'm going to tell stories. It didn't work out so he had to really come up with a great string of tales .... and with it he got the money rolling in from books, reality tv etc???

He is a full blown temper tantrum brat.

I hope this goes away and the family can move on. All of them. In a sad way, I'm glad the Queen isn't watching this all unfold.

So much this. She dedicated her whole life to the monarchy, loved him when he might not have been likeable and now to see him tear it down .... quite sad and disrespectful to her.

 

[Skippyboo]

Yes. Even without the worry of her recording things, it just wasn’t the time or place for her, as the wife of a grandson. The only people who were there were her children (Anne, Charles, Andrew and Edward), some of their spouses (Sophie, Edward’s wife and a favorite DIL to the Queen, and Camilla), and William, as the heir. (Maybe he had to be there for succession purposes or something, which, for his father, took place immediately upon Her Majesty’s death, if I recall.)

Besides William, the heir, Harry would’ve been the only grandchild going. Kate didn’t go, and it wasn’t the place for Meghan, either. Of course, in their minds, Harry and Meghan inflated their own sense of importance and became offended, once again, that Meghan was asked not to come. (After all, she’d become more popular than then-Prince Charles, according to Harry, right? ) But it just really wasn’t the time or place for her to go.

And yes, they had just turned down an invitation to visit the Queen while they were visiting the UK, so there’s that.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/queen-died-charles-anne-with-her-balmoral-b1024527.html

One of the reasons for William to go to Balmoral was for him and Charles to do a privy council meeting to swear in new Cabinet officers. New PM the day before. Like the opening of Parliament earlier in the year, it takes 2 Counselors of State to fill in for the monarch. But it became a moot point because Queen died and Charles became King. He did the Privy Council meeting the next day.

 

[Captain UP]

Can’t you guys just please understand they want to be left alone?

They’ve said in every interview for a year they want their privacy.

We owe that to them.

 

[DebbieB]

I agree with Kate on Charlotte’s dress. It’s too baggy.

 

[Marrila]

I agree with Kate on Charlotte’s dress. It’s too baggy.

In addition, when you click on the photo the hem is very uneven. It was
unfortunate her dress was so poorly made.

 

[barkley]

I think she thought she was the next Princess Grace,

she obviously knew nothing of her.

if m. had any knowledge of grace's marital life she would have learned that grace was VERY mistaken, surprised and disappointed to learn that by becoming a royal she did not have the choice to pick and choose to selectively separately live her royal vs. hollywood life. it has been documented by multiple biographers that grace mistakenly believed that after she married her prince she could pick and choose the occasional pet movie project to do-only to learn that when one marries into a royal family one accepts the obligations and limitations as well as the benefits.

grace kelly did not act after she married in 1956. it wasn't until 1966, after all 3 of her children were born that she even established her own philanthropic foundation. with marriage into a royal family she became the royal designation she obtained with marriage. grace's philanthropic achievements and accolades were born of her own dedication and hard work. i believe m. thinks it's just a perk of 'the job'.

 

[Cheburashka]

Can’t you guys just please understand they want to be left alone?

They’ve said in every interview for a year they want their privacy.

We owe that to them.

Good one! LMAO!

 

[Karin1984]

Harry has recorded the Stephen Colbert interview, so it was before the book was really released.

Harry did tequila shots with Stephen Colbert (do we need to discuss how to stupid this is?) and the Colbert Questionert.

And his security was wearing a Glock box.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-questions-Late-Show.html?ico=related-replace

Reminds me of the interview Graham Norton did with Stephen Colbert years ago. Stephen asked about Graham's success. One of the aspects is: liquor them up!

 

[Lilsia]

Harry is a prime example of just because a person may feel a certain way or perceive something a certain way doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true.

Regardless of how popular it’s become in society to put such a great emphasis on feelings, one’s feelings and/or perceptions don’t always equal the reality.

I don't think that any of us can say that since we don't live his life. None of us has experienced what he has, but so many are quick to judge. How do you KNOW that what he is saying is not true? I can't imagine that kind of life. How horrible it is to constantly be stalked by photographers. Having the flash of the camera in your face while you are walking is unnerving. To have these rags say nasty things about your wife and children.

I think that the Royal family has completely botched how they deal with the press going back many decades. The queen was old school and believed in a "stiff upper lip", but she was from a different time. Especially with what happened with Diana, the palace should have put their foot down on what kind of access the press has to the Royal family. They never should have been allowed to say all of those nasty things about Meghan and even going back to when Catherine started dating Will. By not putting a stop to it, it is like feeding a monster. And I do believe that Camilla(through her aids) is reporting to the tabloids personal conversations.
Why is no one asking who all of these "palace informants" are? The staff all signs NDAs and I can't see some low paid aid risking their future over some gossip. It is clear that this vitriol is coming from someone high up in the family.

Regardless of what anyone personally thinks of Harry or Meghan, the reality is that none of us truly know what it is like to be in the spotlight and see the horrible things said about you day after day after day. Just because you have money, does not make you any less human. The way some people talk about H&M is vile. And why? Because they are speaking out against the tabloids and how their family chose not to protect them from it? As if anyone should be supporting these publications who's sole purpose is to create scandal and descent all just to make a rich man even richer. This whole thing was mismanaged by the Royal family right from the start. If they would have stood behind Harry and Meghan, then none of this would have happened. He obviously feels betrayed by his family. I don't envy them that. I think that it is easy to be nasty to them because hey, he is rich and "spoiled" and so that makes him a "brat", forgetting that he is human like the rest of us.

 

[Karin1984]

Harry didn't want Meghan to take her picture at the Taj Mahal because it would look like Diana's famous picture.
I think it's more likely that Harry didn't want it, because Kate & William took the famous picture the year before Meghan visited.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11617027/Harry-I-told-Meghan-not-photo-Taj-Mahal.html
Writing in his memoir Spare, which was finally released in the UK at midnight, Harry says he and Meghan laughed about the advice he gave her ahead of a trip she was taking to India.

'Do not take a photo in front of the Taj Mahal. She'd asked why and I'd said: My mum,' he wrote.

'I'd explained that my mother had posed for a photo there, and it had become iconic, and I didn't want anyone thinking Meg was trying to mimic my mother.

'Meg had never heard of this photo, and found the whole thing baffling, and I loved her for being baffled.'

Harry - who has railed against the press in his new book - seemed to be worried the Duchess would have been criticised over the image.

 

[Ganon1991]

Though Lilsia, that again comes back to how much control does Harry wants or expected the RF to have over them throughout his life vs what the RF can realistically do