Disney Enchantment Discussion & Reviews Thread (Premiering 9/30)

[Takket]

Look at this fan made video... it makes me happy and sad at the same time. THIS IS THE SHOW we SHOULD have had for the 50th (just needs some nods to WDW itself but the framework of a great show is here)!!!!!

This legit makes me cry, elicits the emotional response, does the things Enchantment and Harmonious do not.

Watch it and give it a like. I wish this was the nighttime spectacular!!!!!!!

 

[HopperFan]

Look at this fan made video... it makes me happy and sad at the same time. THIS IS THE SHOW we SHOULD have had for the 50th (just needs some nods to WDW itself but the framework of a great show is here)!!!!!

This legit makes me cry, elicits the emotional response, does the things Enchantment and Harmonious do not.

Watch it and give it a like. I wish this was the nighttime spectacular!!!!!!!

Thank you for sharing! Someone is very talented it creating a montage that flows, with beautiful music and all the feels. I couldn't stop smiling. Going to bookmark it on my son's computer for him.

Wait ... they orchestrated and performed as well? WOW.

ADDED:
I showed to my son who has watched a few times and now spent all afternoon watching old Disney parades, Spectromagic made me run in to watch and now he's watching the Dreams Parade.

 

[Keckster]

So, seeing it in person may make a difference, but Enchantment just doesn't connect the same way Happily Ever After does. Watching Disney's recordings of both and Happily Ever After still translates effectively without being there in person. It has a clear story arc: Making a dream/wish, Starting a journey/adventure, Finding friendship/love, Facing/overcoming adversity, Returning to your dream, and after all is said and done, finding and embracing your "Happily Ever After."

I'm still trying to figure out Enchantment’s story... believe in your ability to create magic even if others think you're crazy? I think it is trying to tell the "creative process" story: Believe in your talents, Discover inspiration, Embrace the journey, Have fun/be silly with the process, Don't fear the unknown or the chaos, You may feel alone but keep going, and discover it's not magic--but you-- that makes it happen. This is just not as universal a story that people can connect when compared to "Happily Ever After". Pretty much everyone at any age has a dream they are pursuing. Not as many will see the parallels with the creative process.

In other general observations: Enchantment looks pretty and there are some interesting new uses of firework sequences but it doesn't use the castle projections as effectively as Happily Ever After. Enchantment transitions are a bit of a mess, and the pacing of the show feels off and struggles to build to a strong finish. Enchantment seems to rely more heavily on musical themes, while Happily Ever After does a better job of using the lyrics of the songs to reinforce the story. I wasn't really a fan of the Trans-Siberian Orchestra feeling of "Night on Bald Mountain" following "Into the Unknown" from Frozen II. I was happy to see Tink still flies at the end. Final assessment, it's an uneven show and just doesn't feel like Enchantment has the weight/power for a milestone like the 50th Anniversary.

 

[trainingupmy4princes]

Exactly. Adapt it to the attractions/style of WDW but keep similar beats, and it would still be a hit. Besides, it would hardly be the first time something was copied from one park to the other...including like half of MK

I would absolutely have booked a trip to see this show at WDW (altered a little for MK attractions), heck I would even book a dessert party for this. The new one isn't hurrying me to book a trip sooner rather than later. So still waiting to see if the character meets come back or parades as those are things my family love. Rides I can get anywhere, it was the shows, parades and characters that made Disney for my family.

 

[noonew]

I watched both official live stream and The Dis video, and I now believe part of my initial disappointment had a lot to do with how awful the Disney official stream was. Here are my observations:

1. Enchantment is a good fireworks show. The fireworks are beautiful, the projections are decent, and there are several great segments that I like (Into the Unknown (except the singing) and I Am Moana). I have a feeling they tried to recreate both Wishes and HEA in one show, and that's why Enchantment failed.

2. The main problem with HEA was that it relied a lot on projections to get the full effect of the show, so most people tried their best to be in the hub. The management probably wanted to spread the crowd out, so they add the projections on Main St. and put a lot less focus on the castle projection when compared to HEA. But doing this, the Dessert Parties may not be as valuable as they used to be with HEA. I used to reserve 2-3 parties per trip for HEA, now I don't think I'll do it anymore for Enchantment as it probably be better watching from Main St. instead of the reserved area.

3. Moana is Disney's best selling soundtrack in years. It's already been in the Billboard Soundtrack chart for 253 weeks since release and it's at no.1 for 58 weeks and still counting, 14 weeks more than Frozen. Probably that's why they put a lot of Moana in the show.

4. My main problem with Enchantment is the main song, You Are the Magic. I think the decision to have Philip Lawrence wrote the main song backfired and clouded the whole show. Yes, he's a great composer who won multiple Grammy awards and it's neat that he used to be a CM at WDW. But I felt like he got stuck with "Disney Sound" from 20 years ago in his head. So when he was asked to write a song for a Disney Fireworks Show at a Disney theme park, he wrote a song that felt a lot like it came from Hercules or Tarzan from 20 years ago. Both Wishes and Happily Ever After had very strong main songs that pulled at the heartstrings during the finale of both shows. Wishes and HEA main songs were so memorable and fit perfectly with the Fireworks finale, and that's why they both left strong impressions in all of us. You Are the Magic is a decent pop song, but it lacks the heart and power of main songs from Wishes and HEA.

 

[Malestrom Troll]

I haven't seen Enchantment in person, but while watching the live stream I was trying to envision being in the hub watching it. I think it will be way better than HEA. I am biased in that I think Wishes was Disney's best nighttime fireworks show and HEA is the worst. My opinion, HEA was no different than The Magic, Memories and You with firework spasms. The projections, fireworks and soundtrack were not orchestrated together at all in HEA. Enchantment seems to follow the formula in Wishes and that is a huge improvement over HEA.

 

[jknc]

I can’t be friends with someone who watches Wishes then watches HEA and insists Wishes is better.

 

[sghokie]

I can’t be friends with someone who watches Wishes then watches HEA and insists Wishes is better.

I loved Wishes and was sad that it ended. HE is > Wishes.
If people watch the Wishes vids, the show is nowhere near as good as HE.
HE nailed it.

 

[KdKyA]

Look at this fan made video... it makes me happy and sad at the same time. THIS IS THE SHOW we SHOULD have had for the 50th (just needs some nods to WDW itself but the framework of a great show is here)!!!!!

This legit makes me cry, elicits the emotional response, does the things Enchantment and Harmonious do not.

Watch it and give it a like. I wish this was the nighttime spectacular!!!!!!!

This would be something worth reserving a dessert party seat for! That was amazing!!!

 

[jknc]

I loved Wishes and was sad that it ended. HE is > Wishes.
If people watch the Wishes vids, the show is nowhere near as good as HE.
HE nailed it.

Maybe the music in Wishes is better but as an entire show HEA wins.

Watch HEA then Wishes on YouTube. You might turn Wishes off.

 

[sghokie]

Maybe the music in Wishes is better but as an entire show HEA wins.

Watch HEA then Wishes on YouTube. You might turn Wishes off.

Most of the music in Wishes seemed closer to the orchestral part Enchantment to me. Relatively boring.
I really don't like the Glee versions of the songs in Enchantment.

 

[luv2cheer92]

I haven't seen Enchantment in person, but while watching the live stream I was trying to envision being in the hub watching it. I think it will be way better than HEA. I am biased in that I think Wishes was Disney's best nighttime fireworks show and HEA is the worst. My opinion, HEA was no different than The Magic, Memories and You with firework spasms. The projections, fireworks and soundtrack were not orchestrated together at all in HEA. Enchantment seems to follow the formula in Wishes and that is a huge improvement over HEA.

Huh, weird. I find the fireworks to be absolutely perfect in HEA. The timing with the projections, the shapes used, everything was perfectly in sync.

Also, I would probably not recommend watching Enchantment from the hub.

 

[ipianomantanner]

I haven't seen Enchantment in person, but while watching the live stream I was trying to envision being in the hub watching it. I think it will be way better than HEA. I am biased in that I think Wishes was Disney's best nighttime fireworks show and HEA is the worst. My opinion, HEA was no different than The Magic, Memories and You with firework spasms. The projections, fireworks and soundtrack were not orchestrated together at all in HEA. Enchantment seems to follow the formula in Wishes and that is a huge improvement over HEA.

Everyone has opinions but my gosh are you insanely wrong about things not timed well in HEA. It could not be orchestrated and synced more perfectly with the music. Just insane to being this kind of
Opinion about it.

 

[Sandiz08]

I can't believe this is the show we get for the 50th anniversary.

 

[Tonyz]

I heard the new song while at Geyser Point tonight (since they pump in the music for the fireworks)… it’s the worst song of all time.

 

[luv2cheer92]

I heard the new song while at Geyser Point tonight (since they pump in the music for the fireworks)… it’s the worst song of all time.

Aww, I love it! I do like the Happily Ever After song more, but I do still really enjoy this one.

 

[DisneyTarheel]

No goosebumps, which is disappointing. Also, maybe I haven’t watched the more recent movies enough times, but it seemed almost like someone at Disney said, ”lets include a lot of our less popular songs so we can give them a boost.” At least for the songs that were sung that seemed to be the case. For a 50th celebration I would have focused on their most iconic songs.

 

[SealedSeven]

Someone pointed a bright side on twitter of Enchantment.


We didn't get a Cake for a Castle....

 

[bsmcneil]

Lol....
Not sure how to respond to that. But if you're saying what I said isn't true, feel free to believe that, but you would be incorrect.

You stated that you were here and the very first reports were that everyone here hated it. But if you look at the first threads from when HEA was released, that's not true. Not even comparable to Harmonious/Enchantment. So, while it's a good story that everyone always hates change and HEA was trashed from the beginning by loads of people on this message board, it's not what happened according to the the threads that existed (which you can easily find). You said you remembered such and such and I think it is entirely true that you remembered it that way; however, I don't think it's entirely true that it happened that way (based on the fact that one can easily search for happily ever after/HEA and go back to what people said then.

 

[luv2cheer92]

You stated that you were here and the very first reports were that everyone here hated it. But if you look at the first threads from when HEA was released, that's not true. Not even comparable to Harmonious/Enchantment. So, while it's a good story that everyone always hates change and HEA was trashed from the beginning by loads of people on this message board, it's not what happened according to the the threads that existed (which you can easily find). You said you remembered such and such and I think it is entirely true that you remembered it that way; however, I don't think it's entirely true that it happened that way (based on the fact that one can easily search for happily ever after/HEA and go back to what people said then.

K.
There are plenty of negative threads from a simple search as well. But you can pick and choose the positive posts if it fits what you want to believe.