Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[mamaoftwincesses]

My state has the same rule, except this isn't what Disney is asking. Disney is asking for masks to be worn on 2 year olds at ALL times on property when not swimming or dining. There is technically no provision for toddlers to remove the mask when they are safely distanced (outdoors) from others. My guess is that people will use their judgment and allow their children to remove masks when they are outdoors and are distanced from others, but this is technically not permitted and seems to make no sense to me. I understand why masks are required: for the protection of others. But if you are alone on a walking path on Disney property with no one else around, forcing a mask on a toddler seems silly.

This plus toddlers are incredibly unpredictable. Or maybe just mine are? You can practice all you want but they might have a meltdown just before you enter. Some days my kids love shoes, other days they act like I am stabbing them when I try to put on sandals. Families (including those with tiny kiddos) are Disney's bread and butter so again just watching to see how they handle this.

 

[Eric Smith]

I don't remember the last time I spent a full day in any park. We hop every day and are in Epcot at some point almost every day of a trip.

Same here. We may do it once a trip if we do a half day at Disney Springs. We make use of our park hoppers. I understand why hopping can't be allowed right now, but it would be a shame if they made significant lasting changes to park hopping.

 

[scjm222]

It is a business model to staff parks more effectively by knowing how many people will be there accounting for limited numbers of "walk up" guests. Walk up guests will find it they are behind the prebooked guests on other things. It is so if there were a spike they already have the ability to limit capacity through reservations and cut day guest entry. Therfore no disruption again to previously booked trips. As far as hopping options. My opinion based on the options I've heard is limited to on site guests and platinum aps only. Gold and silver would be able to purchase the hopping option in limited numbers.. But off site guests with regular tickets would no longer have the hop option. Nor would day guests. There would be preference to on site and platinum guests.

Thanks for all that you share! Do you know if onsite includes Swalphin, Four Seasons, etc.?

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268561418422489090

 

[SarahC97]

Thanks for all that you share! Do you know if onsite includes Swalphin, Four Seasons, etc.?

I have heard that it does.

 

[nicket]

Yes

Yes

Are ADRs still expected to be able to be made 60 days out? Interesting that you can book dining before actual park reservations if true. Glad to hear that on site guests will still have an advantage in making park reservations!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Same here. We may do it once a trip if we do a half day at Disney Springs. We make use of our park hoppers. I understand why hopping can't be allowed right now, but it would be a shame if they made significant lasting changes to park hopping.

I would think they could allow hopping as long as they track how many people are in the park and only let you hop there if there is room and/or available "reservations"

I think the concern is they have reservations for 25% capacity and then a bunch of people "hop" and now total capacity is up to 30% capacity which is too much. I think if they can figure out a system so that you can only hop to a park if the actual capacity is still under than 25% even with not yet used reservations then they can make it work

 

[Arguetafamily]

It didn't even occur to me my son (just turned 7) would have an issue since he easily wears a mask to Costco, doctor, anywhere. But last week I asked him about going to WDW in a mask and he empathically said NO. Even to finally ride ROTR? He still said no. I was surprised but glad I asked. One more notch in the to cancel or not column.

Anecdotally- I have five children 22, 20, 14, 13, 8, at different times on many different occasions they have said to me NO WAY do I want this, or will do that. More specifically last March they had empathically told me they do not want to go to Character early breakfast ressies any longer...been there done that type attitude. Naturally I nixed all early morning Character breakfast for our upcoming trip in December. Welll, come December I was asked, why no early morning breakfasts?! They have done this to me countless times in many instances involving comfortably...

Point is kids often change their minds, not saying they will or trying to minimize their thoughts and feelings, just saying with kids, sometimes its a lose lose situation If the alternative is no vaca they may feel differently come time for school to start.

 

[wdwoutsider]

Their system is the most complex in the travel industry and even among other industries. It isn't an overnight thing

No one is questioning how huge a mission it is to get this all working. The point is Disney has had some IT issues and there is so much on their plate already! It's asking so much to get an entire new ride que system up and running and stable. Universal has faced alot of issues with theirs and Disney's will have so many more users it will be under even more stress. They can't have issues either if everyone in the park is able to virtual que reserve for pirates at 3:15pm because of an error and we all try to show up at the same time it will create major gridlock and not safe spacing. This is a major major project and will be under alot of stress.

Plus phones over heating up in florida hot summer heat and sun is gonna be rough when people will need them so much more in the park now. The average person not on this board i think mostly uses a cell phone to take pictures in the parks or view the map, now they are gonna need alot more battery power to schedule every ride and order meals. The time on phone will be alot more. Their app can't be a battery and resource killer with all this new functionality.

Again the test days will be very important to test these systems. They need small test days it can't be all Annual passholders, i bet there is a lottery to restrict it to small numbers. They will hopefully iron out the bugs on the test days as Universal is hopefully doing.

 

[gottalovepluto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268561418422489090

Seriously, in the history of the world, theme parks have never been this clean

 

[Leigh L]

I would think they could allow hopping as long as they track how many people are in the park and only let you hop there if there is room and/or available "reservations"

I think the concern is they have reservations for 25% capacity and then a bunch of people "hop" and now total capacity is up to 30% capacity which is too much. I think if they can figure out a system so that you can only hop to a park if the actual capacity is still under than 25% even with not yet used reservations then they can make it work

Maybe they could potentially send out push notifications if a park is at - or nearing - capacity (do they do this around the holidays when it gets busy?) but that might take up too many IT resources. Not sure what would be involved if they were doing it on a daily basis.

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268602040051212290

 

[Jrb1979]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268602040051212290

That should hopefully help with clearing up with what's going on with the resorts

 

[wdwoutsider]

I would think they could allow hopping as long as they track how many people are in the park and only let you hop there if there is room and/or available "reservations"

I think the concern is they have reservations for 25% capacity and then a bunch of people "hop" and now total capacity is up to 30% capacity which is too much. I think if they can figure out a system so that you can only hop to a park if the actual capacity is still under than 25% even with not yet used reservations then they can make it work

For liability reasons and transportation i would be shocked if Disney allows Park Hoping for a while. For contact tracing purposes it would make that impossible and the tech to make new reservations would be really advanced to keep an active count on numbers in the park and monitoring exits/entrances. Much more basic and simple to allow a certain number of reservations ahead of time for each park and that is who is allowed admission. Plus the transportation system is already going to be pushed to the limit with social distancing and pauses to clean requirements. The less between park buses they can run the more they can run to resorts etc.

What if i don't have a park hopper and a ton of people leave Magic Kingdom because its so hot and muggy. They all try to come back and are now denied because they let more people in because of the exits. Seems too complex, i bet they don't allow park hoping would be my guess. Just a straight reservation per park system and that's who gets in is so much easier.

 

[jlwhitney]

I think it’s impossible for a just turned 2 yr old no matter who came up with it. And that’s also the problem with all of this is ppl are coming from all over the country. Some states are much more into mask-wearing than others.

I was talking about this and for kids 4 and under I really think it should be closer to only wear them when not in a stroller. I know on the hot humid days I wouldn't want my kids falling asleep in a stroller with a mask on, very dangerous.

 

[AmberMV]

I was talking about this and for kids 4 and under I really think it should be closer to only wear them when not in a stroller. I know on the hot humid days I wouldn't want my kids falling asleep in a stroller with a mask on, very dangerous.

I agree with you as I have 3 kids under 3, however it's become pretty obvious to me that Disney is trying to discourage families with young children from visiting for this period of time. And although I'm affected by that, Disney's property-Disney's rules and there is no use being upset over something I can't change. AFAIK APs can still ask for refunds and if we as APs are too heavily prevented from visiting the parks then we will just ask for a refund on our AP and try again next year.

 

[Sandisw]

@Remy is Up Rumor is that tickets bought from UT after Wednesday may not qualify at first. My DD’s boyfriend has a 4 day ticket attached before hand, but we released he needed a 6 day. So, now he has a 4 day bought before and a 6 day boughtn2 days later attached to him. My DD is the same but with a 10 day and a 6 day.

Do you think they will only allow the 4 days to start? Thoughts?

 

[Dulcee]

I was talking about this and for kids 4 and under I really think it should be closer to only wear them when not in a stroller. I know on the hot humid days I wouldn't want my kids falling asleep in a stroller with a mask on, very dangerous.

I would be shocked to see a situation where you were told to put a mask on a child asleep in a stroller. They aren't at risk for spreading aersolized viral particles while sleeping. Like everything else we'll need to wait and see but I doubt this would end up being an issue.

 

[AmberMV]

I would be shocked to see a situation where you were told to put a mask on a child asleep in a stroller. They aren't at risk for spreading aersolized viral particles while sleeping. Like everything else we'll need to wait and see but I doubt this would end up being an issue.

AFAIK the exact verbiage on masks is "2 and over masks required unless actively eating or swimming"

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268606815597625344