Warning- daily safety and security room check

[DisneyandBeerLover]

Maybe I'll just put a post-it note on my door saying "I'm sick AF, getting to sleep is a struggle, wake me up and I'll be very angry" even if I'm not sick, but I usually get sick at least once where someone knocking on my door would make me very angry.

 

[pattyw]

What is really sad is that people believe that Disney will actually keep them safe.

Yep! just an illusion!

I believe that people expressing their concern of and unhappiness with the intrusive and inconsistent implementation of this policy can cause a change. That's why it's important for us to continue the discussion.

 

[Mikamarii]

What is really sad is that people believe that Disney will actually keep them safe.

Oh please. To suggest Disney doesn't provide a safe environment is laughable. They walk through 10s upon 10s of thousands of people through their parks and hotels daily. They are a target rich environment. The number of incidents that happen there are a negligible in relation to what could happen. Is it safe from every possible threat every happening? no. Is it a safe environment. Absolutely. Otherwise people wouldn't have an issue booking night time excursions in Flint, Michigan

 

[GreatLakes]

Do you seriously not think that people who have been victims of rape or molestation go to Disney? Just because you have no problem with a random male entering your room, it doesn’t mean others don’t.

I put "strange men" in quotes for a reason. It isn't some strange man, it is Disney security in one fashion or another. What one specific human did to you shouldn't make you suspicious of every other human who shares a chromosome pair with them. What a sad way to go through life. It is as unhinged as the people on here that don't let their male teens use the restroom at Disney alone because of "all the bad men that can be lurking in there".

I don't care what gender does my security room screening, that would be sexist.

 

[snappy]

One of the few plusses of aging is acquiring skepticism that any organization will prioritize keeping you out of harm’s way over its own agenda or interests. My belief is that it’s prudent that everyone exercise their own due diligence where health and safety is concerned, and I respect their right to do so. Thanks.

 

[kamik86]

I put "strange men" in quotes for a reason. It isn't some strange man, it is Disney security in one fashion or another. What one specific human did to you shouldn't make you suspicious of every other human who shares a chromosome pair with them. What a sad way to go through life. It is as unhinged as the people on here that don't let their male teens use the restroom at Disney alone because of "all the bad men that can be lurking in there".

I don't care what gender does my security room screening, that would be sexist.

Yes however its generally considered a good idea to not allow people you don't know in your room without the front desk confirming they are who they say they are. I guess you could answer the door and then close it and make them enter themselves (which then at least proves they have what they need to enter).

Every hotel has the right to enter your room if they need to. However this is the first one where I have heard of things like this happening frequently. Other places do security checks but not nearly as often. I wouldn't be surprised if many of those smaller ones also check card locking information to help them enter when someone isn't there.

Someone above said if every disboard member stopped going it wouldn't affect their bottom line and that is true, but at the same time I"m sure we aren't the only ones annoyed by these policies and people talk. I have definitely heard worse reasons for someone to refuse to stay somwhere then "My coworker said they were woken up by security insisting on coming in their room each morning, as if they were criminals!" and if the policies don't change then that is fine they are a business and can keep their policies and I can choose other places to stay.

 

[mom2rtk]

Oh please. To suggest Disney doesn't provide a safe environment is laughable. They walk through 10s upon 10s of thousands of people through their parks and hotels daily. They are a target rich environment. The number of incidents that happen there are a negligible in relation to what could happen. Is it safe from every possible threat every happening? no. Is it a safe environment. Absolutely. Otherwise people wouldn't have an issue booking night time excursions in Flint, Michigan

I think the issue here is whether this specific policy actually does anything to increase that level of safety.

 

[BK2014]

Someone above said if every disboard member stopped going it wouldn't affect their bottom line and that is true, but at the same time I"m sure we aren't the only ones annoyed by these policies and people talk. I have definitely heard worse reasons for someone to refuse to stay somwhere then "My coworker said they were woken up by security insisting on coming in their room each morning, as if they were criminals!" and if the policies don't change then that is fine they are a business and can keep their policies and I can choose other places to stay.

The problem with people saying that this policy will cause them to stay elsewhere, is that a lot of them mean off-site, but still going to WDW. Meaning that Disney is still getting their money for park tickets, food, souvenirs, parking fees etc.

The other thing, and this is not directed at the quoted post above, is that these boards have deemed these to be "security checks". Disney has not used this term, and security is only one of many reasons that allows them to access your room according to the terms and conditions everyone agrees to when they book their room. Getting eyes on each room on a daily basis easily serves a number of purposes that are beneficial to Disney. The fact that most checks consist of someone simply looking into a room, or walking in, looking into the bathroom and leaving indicate that it is not primarily security focused. As others have pointed out, most Disney hotels don't have the line of sight to a highly populated area that the shooter in Las Vegas did from his room. And guests are checked before entering the parks. So the Las Vegas shooting may have simply provided a convenient time to implement this policy that accomplishes goals other than just security.

 

[snappy]

The problem with people saying that this policy will cause them to stay elsewhere, is that a lot of them mean off-site, but still going to WDW. Meaning that Disney is still getting their money for park tickets, food, souvenirs, parking fees etc.

The other thing, and this is not directed at the quoted post above, is that these boards have deemed these to be "security checks". Disney has not used this term, and security is only one of many reasons that allows them to access your room according to the terms and conditions everyone agrees to when they book their room. Getting eyes on each room on a daily basis easily serves a number of purposes that are beneficial to Disney. The fact that most checks consist of someone simply looking into a room, or walking in, looking into the bathroom and leaving indicate that it is not primarily security focused. As others have pointed out, most Disney hotels don't have the line of sight to a highly populated area that the shooter in Las Vegas did from his room. And guests are checked before entering the parks. So the Las Vegas shooting may have simply provided a convenient time to implement this policy that accomplishes goals other than just security.

Yes, but they are able to avoid this policy which is what is causing the sleep and sleep interruptions. And if they switch to a universal resort, they will likely opt for a universal park for some days and reduce or eliminate their Disney park days.

If the room checks are other than security checks why do they sometimes send security staff? Why not maintenance workers, or bus drivers? They could even send Mickey Mouse for that matter.

 

[Madame]

I put "strange men" in quotes for a reason. It isn't some strange man, it is Disney security in one fashion or another. What one specific human did to you shouldn't make you suspicious of every other human who shares a chromosome pair with them. What a sad way to go through life. It is as unhinged as the people on here that don't let their male teens use the restroom at Disney alone because of "all the bad men that can be lurking in there".

I don't care what gender does my security room screening, that would be sexist.

Says the male who has obviously never been the victim of sexual aggression. Would you tell soldiers that their PTSD triggers are unhinged? Nah just women having the vapours. I think I’ll just hit the ignore button on you.

 

[BK2014]

If the room checks are other than security checks why are do they sometimes send security staff?

First, I did not say that the room checks were not for security at all. I said that they likely serve a combination of purposes, "other than just security". Next to housekeepers, who are in and out of the rooms daily, the next most logical staff people to send to check guest rooms would be security staff. From what I have read on these boards, security staff generally comes when housekeeping has either been declined, or when housekeepers have been sent away without being allowed to do their visual inspection. Maintenance workers are probably busy attending to specific tasks, and bus driver are hopefully driving their buses. But part of security is keeping an eye on things around the resort, and helping with the room checks helps fulfill this part of the job. It doesn't mean that the checks are solely for the purpose of security.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

Oh please. To suggest Disney doesn't provide a safe environment is laughable. They walk through 10s upon 10s of thousands of people through their parks and hotels daily. They are a target rich environment. The number of incidents that happen there are a negligible in relation to what could happen. Is it safe from every possible threat every happening? no. Is it a safe environment. Absolutely. Otherwise people wouldn't have an issue booking night time excursions in Flint, Michigan

To suggest that Disney has one of the most advanced security just behind the military is laughable.

I've lived through military security. To compare Disney to that security, really is laughable.

Especially when looking at Disney's room checks. First level of security or not, they are better known as security theater. Basically they are performed to make, at least some of the guests feel better. Every time someone says that they are glad that Disney is doing these checks, Disney is accomplishing their goal. The goal to make people feel better.

 

[snappy]

Says the male who has obviously never been the victim of sexual aggression. Would you tell soldiers that their PTSD triggers are unhinged? Nah just women having the vapours. I think I’ll just hit the ignore button on you.

I agree. Ignore button is available for a reason. Perhaps those that don’t seem to be able to tolerate concern about the room checks should use the ignore function or perhaps avoid the thread, if our concerns are not to their taste.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Every hotel has the right to enter your room if they need to. However this is the first one where I have heard of things like this happening frequently. Other places do security checks but not nearly as often.

Other places don't have multiple unofficial websites devoted to them. As a PP posted, her actual experience is that Omni (for one) does daily checks of every. single. room. None of the first ten results in my search for "omni hotels unofficial website" were that. YMMV.

The problem with people saying that this policy will cause them to stay elsewhere, is that a lot of them mean off-site, but still going to WDW. Meaning that Disney is still getting their money for park tickets, food, souvenirs, parking fees etc.

Still, Resorts is a separate revenue-producung entity from Parks and other divisions.

If the room checks are other than security checks why do they sometimes send security staff? Why not maintenance workers

Maybe they do. Has anybody asked each individual room inspector what their actual job is?

or bus drivers? They could even send Mickey Mouse for that matter.

Neither employment category is under the Resorts umbrella.

Says the male who has obviously never been the victim of sexual aggression.

Female here. Victim of sexual aggression. Still and always trust men.

 

[natfrac]

Yes, but they are able to avoid this policy which is what is causing the sleep and sleep interruptions. And if they switch to a universal resort, they will likely opt for a universal park for some days and reduce or eliminate their Disney park days.

If our next stay at the BWV is as interrupted and unpleasant as the last, it will be our last time visiting WDW. We've already decided that we'll just go the DLR for a couple of days and stay across the street at a "Good Neighbor" hotel. Instead of Disney getting two week's worth of revenue off of us, they'll only get a couple of days.

 

[snappy]

If our next stay at the BWV is as interrupted and unpleasant as the last, it will be our last time visiting WDW. We've already decided that we'll just go the DLR for a couple of days and stay across the street at a "Good Neighbor" hotel. Instead of Disney getting two week's worth of revenue off of us, they'll only get a couple of days.

I am with you, if my upcoming food and wine festival stay at BWV isn't better than the last. Not DL but likely Hard rock hotel and universal parks. I’ll spend the money saved to extend my NYC trips and splurge on seeing more plays.

 

[Jennasis]

How many of you have actually written to or called Disney to express your concern or displeasure with this policy? I have...included my displeasure with the dog policy too and that policy wasn't rescinded as we all assumed our outcry would do. They've extended it indefinitely.

Only recourse really is to not patronize them, Show of hands...who is willing to put their money where their mouth isn't and stay elsewhere?

 

[joscortel]

Hope it’s a wonderful trip. October 2019 right?

Yes and thank you! I told them not to opt out of housekeeping because they are early risers rope drop type of family so hopefully this may help lesson the chance of mid-day knocking on the door during nap time. He did so much better during their poly trip they said because they were able to go back to the resort so he could swim(he loves water lol) and nap and de-stimulate and be refreshed and ready for evenings at the parks. I'm hoping the skyliner is open when we go because that would be a big break from the busses on days we go to epcot/HS and I think all the grandkids will love it.

 

[snappy]

How many of you have actually written to or called Disney to express your concern or displeasure with this policy? I have...included my displeasure with the dog policy too and that policy wasn't rescinded as we all assumed our outcry would do. They've extended it indefinitely.

Only recourse really is to not patronize them, Show of hands...who is willing to put their money where their mouth isn't and stay elsewhere?

Yes, I sent emails to multiple Disney management folks in February, received a call back and spoke at length.

Planning to stay elsewhere based on my next trip, see my last post above. Actually I already do as we have stayed at all 3 Bonnet creek resorts many times since they opened. Giving up on Disney resorts not a decision lightly taken, as I have done Disney parks for over 55 years, sometimes staying at Disney resorts for the last 16 years.
Question for you: Has said dog policy driven you off yet?

 

[Jennasis]

Yes, I sent emails to multiple Disney management folks in February, received a call back and spoke at length.

Planning to stay elsewhere based on my next trip, see my last post above. Actually I already do as we have stayed at all 3 Bonnet creek resorts many times since they opened. Giving up on Disney resorts not a decision lightly taken, as I have done Disney parks for over 55 years, sometimes staying at Disney resorts for the last 16 years.
Question for you: Has said dog policy driven you off yet?

Not yet. We own DVC and dogs are not permitted there yet other than service dogs. So far all of the annoying policies theyve enacted don't affect me...but I'm still annoyed they exist (lile parking fees)