SDFP: CHANGES COMING!! Beware the 7th of June?!

[1supermomsmd]

Since non-ticketed phantom bands no longer work, are Magicbands actually necessary for the CPFP option? If trying to simply make SDFP at kiosk, assuming you have a "modern" plastic card ticket, you can just take that to kiosk to scan it and then change party -- you wouldn't need a Magicband, right?

For ticketed CPFP, assuming this option available if the donor did not use that ticket for park entry, is is advisable/preferred to have this donor ticket on the same MDE or a separate one? Trying to weigh all the pros and cons for that scenario. Thank you, in advance, for any expert advice. I realize this is a fast moving, dynamic scene today. Appreciate everyone for all their efforts!

 

[rlp]

Of those of you that have used the non-ticketed SDFP loophole in the past, do you think this change will change how many times a year you visit WDW? Wondering if this will have an impact on guest attendance. I'm guessing not, but on the other hand, if some people got a better experience with the loophole they may not want to experience more waiting or not going on as many rides, etc... and so may choose not to go that often. Unless they have enough money to buy extra tickets of course.

 

[tlmadden73]

To me . .the way it "should" be this simple:

If you use a ticket to walk to get into a park you can use your 3 fast passes or my same day fast passes (if you didn't pre-book any).
If a band isn't scanned at any ticket booth, then it should be "dead" until it is.
Simple.

I'm not sure why Disney didn't program that in the first place. (Probably just simplicity and trying to avoid complications when it was first rolling out).

Doing anything else (in my opinion) is just gaming the system. I guess I don't see the point of the change party thing as well.

Guests aren't "losing" anything if these loopholes are all eventually closed .. some guests are just losing the ability to game the system and use more fast passes per day than the "average" guest.

 

[ScrapYap]

Ill find out tonight at MK if the transfer method works. If someone could post their experience, that would be great!

The transfer method will almost certainly work.

 

[Lisa F]

Disney knows that CMs will do a lot of wave-throughs. A possible lockout would scare guests off and prevent the wave-throughs. Some element of the lockout threat has to be bluff, though. Just the prospect of it had us scrambling here to make sure everyone heard about it. And the threat is preventing people from testing today. No one wants to get locked out. But for all we know, you'd have to try 20 times before they actually locked you out. (Unofficial tour guides might do it that many times - or regular guests who knew they would get waved through most of the time.)

I have never gotten waved through on a blue mickey (I have gotten them when I scanned in a couple of minutes too early). I didn't even know that was a thing that happened!

 

[bashuck]

Your enjoyment of the parks due to last minute disruptions will in no way be impacted if you can't transfer FP+ from a band that wasn't used to enter a park.

Happy travels.

So if my DW and DD6 were going to go to TSMM and I was was going to do Star Tours and my wife wakes up sick and not up to going out that day wouldn't being able to to cancel my Star Tours and change her TSMM to me be the way to go so my DD can still ride it? Clearly that is not the most common use but your blanket statement is incorrect.

 

[CMNJ]

This may have been addressed before so don't kill me but is it possible to have FP+ for the same rides using this method?

like say I have access to multiple ticketed accounts. Can I technically book 7DMT in my own account, and in both of the other accounts... use my 3 FP+ and then transfer another 7DMT and then a third 7DMT? Or can you only book 4th + FP for rides you have not already ridden? I thought the latter was the case.

I didn't see that anyone answered you but yes after you use your original 3 your 4th and subsequent FP can be for attraction even if you have ridden it already using a FP. Just like in the parks with tiering once you have used the 3 initial FP your 4th and subsequent FP could all be tier 1 (this of course is subject to availability)

 

[ScrapYap]

Since non-ticketed phantom bands no longer work, are Magicbands actually necessary for the CPFP option? If trying to simply make SDFP at kiosk, assuming you have a "modern" plastic card ticket, you can just take that to kiosk to scan it and then change party -- you wouldn't need a Magicband, right?

For ticketed CPFP, assuming this option available if the donor did not use that ticket for park entry, is is advisable/preferred to have this donor ticket on the same MDE or a separate one? Trying to weigh all the pros and cons for that scenario. Thank you, in advance, for any expert advice. I realize this is a fast moving, dynamic scene today. Appreciate everyone for all their efforts!

No, you don't need a MagicBand for CPFP. You just have to be friends with the donor on your MDE.

 

[ScrapYap]

I didn't see that anyone answered you but yes after you use your original 3 your 4th and subsequent FP can be for attraction even if you have ridden it already using a FP. Just like in the parks with tiering once you have used the 3 initial FP your 4th and subsequent FP could all be tier 1 (this of course is subject to availability)

Availability not a prob if you have multiple donor tickets on your MDE and prebook what you want (for CPFP) 60 days out.

 

[stardam]

So if my DW and DD6 were going to go to TSMM and I was was going to do Star Tours and my wife wakes up sick and not up to going out that day wouldn't being able to to cancel my Star Tours and change her TSMM to me be the way to go so my DD can still ride it? Clearly that is not the most common use but your blanket statement is incorrect.

I would assume in this situation, you would just take your wife's mb. Leaving yours at the resort. No transferring needed

 

[fan1080]

So if my DW and DD6 were going to go to TSMM and I was was going to do Star Tours and my wife wakes up sick and not up to going out that day wouldn't being able to to cancel my Star Tours and change her TSMM to me be the way to go so my DD can still ride it? Clearly that is not the most common use but your blanket statement is incorrect.

You go to guest relations on entry and explain the situation. Chances are very good they will accommodate you. So, yes, I stand by my blanket statement.

Happy travels.

 

[anomamatt]

I would assume in this situation, you would just take your wife's mb. Leaving yours at the resort. No transferring needed

Only works if you also cut off her finger and bring it along for the scanner.

 

[Marionnette]

Now you can just use CPFP to move them over to your own account and use them legally!

This appears to be true for now. However, the way I used it that day was to schedule overlapping FP+ at adjacent attractions for him and me. So, the FP+ schedule may have looked like this:
Me - 9:30- 10:30 JC
Him - 10:00 - 11:00 PoTC
Me - 11:00 - 12:00 Splash
Him - 11:30 -12:30 BTMRR
Me - 12:30 - 1:00 HM
Him - 1:00 - 2:00 PP

After tapping the HM FP+ touch point at 12:30, I obtained my first SDFP and he got his at 1:00 after entering Pan. Then I filled my time with lunch and a visit to Philharmagic, the parade started and I was able to get on Tomorrowland attractions with little wait. Then I did the SDFP and headed back to the resort since my husband was done with his meeting.

With CPFP, I would have to book 3 consecutive FP+ for myself followed by 3 consecutive FP+ for my husband. Instead of being finished with 6 attractions in 4 hours, it would take 6 hours to do the same number. So, not quite the same but if it works the next time we go to a conference, I'll be fine with it.

 

[rlp]

Another question, do you think a group that couples strangers sharing annual pass fast pass+'s may form? For example, if I have an annual pass but only plan on using it 3 or 4 months, I could offer up fast passes the months I don't go to a stranger in exchange for their fast passes the months I go, of course this would only work if going different months. I know this happens among families that know each other but thought this might occur for families that don't know other's with annual passes. This all of course would work only if the change party function will still work.

I think a similar group had formed on facebook to bring strangers together to share photo pass (is that the right name?)

 

[Lisa F]

I didn't see that anyone answered you but yes after you use your original 3 your 4th and subsequent FP can be for attraction even if you have ridden it already using a FP. Just like in the parks with tiering once you have used the 3 initial FP your 4th and subsequent FP could all be tier 1 (this of course is subject to availability)

Thanks for the clarification

Availability not a prob if you have multiple donor tickets on your MDE and prebook what you want (for CPFP) 60 days out.

so a potential strategy could be to PPO garden grill breakfast, ride soarin. Ride test track on your own prebooked FP+. Ride frozen later in the day on a CPFP. Watch illuminations from the FP viewing location at the end of the night. IF you have enough donor tickets to draw from you could basically book a tier 1 and nothing else on each to transfer over.

 

[anomamatt]

With CPFP, I would have to book 3 consecutive FP+ for myself followed by 3 consecutive FP+ for my husband. Instead of being finished with 6 attractions in 4 hours, it would take 6 hours to do the same number. So, not quite the same but if it works the next time we go to a conference, I'll be fine with it.

You want (need) multiple ticketed phantoms and leave your main account with only 1 FP. As soon as you use that first FP, start transferring over.

There is one more step with CPFP, but also has the benefit of not needing to switch MBs.

 

[GrnMtnMan]

accidental post

 

[madchatter]

Were you approached by a CM, or the system just showed you a message and asked for a new band/ticket?

No CM. Just got this screen

 

[bashuck]

I would assume in this situation, you would just take your wife's mb. Leaving yours at the resort. No transferring needed

The suggestion is that would no longer work as her band would not have scanned in at the entrance.

 

[SilSprBea]

This may have been addressed before so don't kill me but is it possible to have FP+ for the same rides using this method?

like say I have access to multiple ticketed accounts. Can I technically book 7DMT in my own account, and in both of the other accounts... use my 3 FP+ and then transfer another 7DMT and then a third 7DMT? Or can you only book 4th + FP for rides you have not already ridden? I thought the latter was the case.

I booked a 4th fast pass last December for Frozen at Epcot after we'd already used one. So unless they changed something, it should be possible!