Why Is It So Hard to Get Medical Records?!?!?!?!?

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DD11 was a c section and born in a different state. How that we have moved back home and I am expecting my second biological child my doctors office has been trying to get my medical records from my previous c section and postpartum complications since September and the hospital in Kentucky will not release them. They gave my doctors office the run around for months and then finally said they destroyed the records because it was more than 10 years ago. I called and found out that they lied, the records are still there, it's just that no one bothered to look and assumed they were destroyed.

Once we figured that out I thought we were home free but no. The specialists offices are still calling trying to get their hands on these records and have not received anything. My appointments with the specialists are tomorrow. I thought this had been taken care of weeks ago.

Why is it so darn hard to get medical records released?
 
HIPAA is the reason. More than likely you will have to get a release of information form from the hospital or doctor's practice involved and get it back to them before they will consent to release your records. It's not uncommon for people to issue a release of medical records and the doctor or hospital will not honor it because it is not on their own release form, which is developed with their own attorneys to protect them against improperly breaking HIPAA.
 
DD11 was a c section and born in a different state. How that we have moved back home and I am expecting my second biological child my doctors office has been trying to get my medical records from my previous c section and postpartum complications since September and the hospital in Kentucky will not release them. They gave my doctors office the run around for months and then finally said they destroyed the records because it was more than 10 years ago. I called and found out that they lied, the records are still there, it's just that no one bothered to look and assumed they were destroyed.

Once we figured that out I thought we were home free but no. The specialists offices are still calling trying to get their hands on these records and have not received anything. My appointments with the specialists are tomorrow. I thought this had been taken care of weeks ago.

Why is it so darn hard to get medical records released?
Did you sign a release form? Or multiple different release forms, as the case may be?
 


HIPAA is the reason. More than likely you will have to get a release of information form from the hospital or doctor's practice involved and get it back to them before they will consent to release your records. It's not uncommon for people to issue a release of medical records and the doctor or hospital will not honor it because it is not on their own release form, which is developed with their own attorneys to protect them against improperly breaking HIPAA.

Oh I've done that. We have used my current doctors release form, the hospitals own release form, multiple times. They won't flat out say "we won't release the records because of x" they just keep giving us the runaround and then flat out lied and said the records have been destroyed when they haven't. No one bothered to look.
 
Oh I've done that. We have used my current doctors release form, the hospitals own release form, multiple times. They won't flat out say "we won't release the records because of x" they just keep giving us the runaround and then flat out lied and said the records have been destroyed when they haven't. No one bothered to look.

Even a court order and subpoena power of the courts sometime winds up with medical providers dragging their feet on release of records.
 


Even a court order and subpoena power of the courts sometime winds up with medical providers dragging their feet on release of records.

It's just ridiculous. I'm really unclear why they hold medical records hostage like this. In my case, if we can't get the records I will not be allowed to attempt a natural delivery. I may have to have unnecessary surgery because they won't release the records.
 
Oh I've done that. We have used my current doctors release form, the hospitals own release form, multiple times. They won't flat out say "we won't release the records because of x" they just keep giving us the runaround and then flat out lied and said the records have been destroyed when they haven't. No one bothered to look.
They don't want to because they don't have to. Most states have record retention laws that at 5-10 years (unless the patient is a minor). Since this is a non-money making proposition because it falls under "continuity of care" they have little incentive to send the records.
 
I think they need to make a law making it very clear that medical records belong to the patient. They should be required to provide copies to you, even if they have to give you a copy of everything for your files after every visit. I have been through this too and was unable to get some really old medical records that a clinic wanted before I could even book an appointment. I ended up going elsewhere that didn't require that I dig up some very old and irrelevant records.
 
I think they need to make a law making it very clear that medical records belong to the patient. They should be required to provide copies to you, even if they have to give you a copy of everything for your files after every visit. I have been through this too and was unable to get some really old medical records that a clinic wanted before I could even book an appointment. I ended up going elsewhere that didn't require that I dig up some very old and irrelevant records.

Totally agree. Unfortunately for me the records I'm after are crucially relevant. I left some strong words for the medical records department at the hospital and hopefully they will come through today.
 
You mentioned that you had a C-section and 'complications'.
Something tells me that they are hiding and covering due to any possible liability.
If those records are still there, they may have been 'flagged'.

I would not be assuming that, this day and age, that anyone would be requesting the tiniest thing at all without being fully HIPPA compliant. But, OP, you should really double check on that.

If you got thru to that office once...
I would contact them again, and again, and again.
I know you are frustrated and might have used some of the 'wrong' strong words....
That might not help your cause.
You need to be VERY firm, and clear....
I would not let up.

Many many years ago, my sister was a victim of surgical malpractice. Very obvious case.
Of course, there were never any medical records to be found. I think that they claimed that they were accidentally mis-placed or destroyed.
Current, active, records...
Ohhhhh, of course... :mad:

Is there any way that you, or the powers that be at your current medical facility, and make a more direct, legal, request.
They are YOUR records.. and you have every right to them.
But, really, I don't know if you would have any better success than she did.
 
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Have you contacted the hospital/doctor's office? What is required for YOU to get the records?

Who told you the records were available (not destroyed)? Do you have the name of that person? Did you ask them how you could get a copy of those records? Do you have the same insurance? Would insurance help you get the records?

Just some suggestions.

Good luck!
 
First of all, I'm so sorry you are having to go through this.

Second of all, the records are probably never destroyed. Most medical offices (not sure of KY state laws) are required to keep X number of years of records on site. After that, the records can be transferred out to a holding company.

Bottom line, your records probably still exist in some state (hard copy or digital), although you may have to pay for copies of your own information. Call the doctor's office in question (in KY) daily and politely - this is key - explain what you want and why. When I have had issues, this generally did the trick because I was determined to obtain the information necessary.
 
Our hospital makes it pretty easy. You print out the form online, fill in what the dates and times of the records that you need, sign the form, mail it to the Records dept. They do need your signature to release but it was very easy. Good luck OP. Should not be this difficult to get your own medical information.
 
The records are over 10 years old. You're not a current patient and it sounds like you haven't been for quite some time. So, even if they've been going to digital filing I doubt yours were converted. So your file is one of tens of thousands of old files which are very likely stored off-site.


Life Pro Tip: If you think you will possibly need records in the future, get copies of everything as soon as the incident has resolved and keep them yourself for future needs.
 
I think they need to make a law making it very clear that medical records belong to the patient. They should be required to provide copies to you, even if they have to give you a copy of everything for your files after every visit.

These laws already exist, though they are not strongly enforced. So, why do you have trouble getting your medical info? Well, first, as I said, it's not strongly enforced (yet). So, hospitals and clinics generally tend to put is as a back-burner issue. Compliance is much more concerned with accidental (or intentional) Medicare fraud than they are with patients taking an extra few weeks to get their documents.

Second, there are much stronger laws against the production of documents without a proper authorization. Yes, I'm sure that everyone posting here has signed many authorizations, but did you look at what it/they said? Did it name the right entity? How long was the authorization good for? It can't be open ended, and generally, you need a new one every year (at the very least). Did it specify the documentation to be produced? If so, and you try to use it for something outside that scope/time period, you'll need to get another one. For example, if it said "all records to date", and you try to use is again 3 months later to get the interim records, you can't. Conversely, if it didn't specify the documentation to be produced (or for example, said something like "all documents pertaining to XXX") that's a HUGE hassle for information departments. You're talking about, in some cases, decades worth of medical records - not all of which may have been digitized. Sometimes we go back to the requestor to try and save them money: "Hey, do you know you asked for approximately 500 pages of records? Do you know we're allowed to charge you $XXXX for producing those? Do you maybe wanna be a bit more specific in your request?" Also, those types of requests tend to implicate issues of state law. For example, in Michigan, there are protections for documents involving substance abuse disorders and sexually transmitted diseases which are stronger than the Federal protections, and require a specific request. So, if an information department gets an open-ended request they have to go back to the requestor and ask for clarification: "Hey, ummm, you might not know this, but the agent you appointed in that massive class action suit you don't even remember agreeing to be a part of is asking for those records about the STD you had treated when you were 18. Are you cool with that?"

Third, it's expensive (see above). Yes, we're living in a digital world, and every hospital is doing its best to get everything put onto an electronic medical records system, but we aren't all there yet. So, what happens if we get requests for records that aren't digitized, BUT the requestor demands that the records be produced electronically (which they're allowed to do)? Well, we have to task one person to dig their physical records out of storage and digitize it. My employer is willing to do this, because we're one of the biggest hospital systems in the state. Anything smaller than us? Yeah, you're lucky if they even have a separate information management department. Also, when you start asking for old records, they start being hard to find. Like literal random cardboard box in a football field sized warehouse hard to find. This super sucks for hospitals, because although we're allowed to charge for the time we spent making copies and/or converting information, we can't charge (anymore) for the time we have to spend looking for the records.


I'm sorry you guys have had a hard time getting your records, but it's not as if hospitals are greedily hoarding them for some nefarious purpose. Trust me, they wish they didn't have to keep paying for their secure storage for the length of the recommended regulatory retention periods. In all honesty, you've probably run upon some overworked/understaffed practices that just can't keep up with all the requests they get. Ultimately, these people are supposed to be healers, not paper pushers. Yes, it's their job to make sure you can all get copies of your records in a timely manner, but they don't always see it that way.
 
Second of all, the records are probably never destroyed. Most medical offices (not sure of KY state laws) are required to keep X number of years of records on site. After that, the records can be transferred out to a holding company.

No. Most records need only be kept for 7 years. Most lawyers recommend 10, just to be safe. If you're looking for basic medical records greater than 10 years old, good luck and no guarantees. The longest period you'll ever see a medical record kept for anymore is 25 years, and those are records pertaining to newborns with "issues". Now, that doesn't mean you won't find records older than that squirreled away in some facility somewhere, being kept well beyond the suggested retention periods, but those will get trashed as soon as their neighbors get digitized.

This will not change once everything is digitized. Servers have maximum capacities. Rather, the data will be programmed to automatically delete itself in line with retention policies.
 
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DD11 was a c section and born in a different state. How that we have moved back home and I am expecting my second biological child my doctors office has been trying to get my medical records from my previous c section and postpartum complications since September and the hospital in Kentucky will not release them. They gave my doctors office the run around for months and then finally said they destroyed the records because it was more than 10 years ago. I called and found out that they lied, the records are still there, it's just that no one bothered to look and assumed they were destroyed.

Once we figured that out I thought we were home free but no. The specialists offices are still calling trying to get their hands on these records and have not received anything. My appointments with the specialists are tomorrow. I thought this had been taken care of weeks ago.

Why is it so darn hard to get medical records released?

I move a lot. When I leave a place, I go to all our doctors and get hard copies of our medical records for this very reason.
 

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