We need something with spaceships, space battles, and far future technology that is aimed at a adult audience on TV

[Beezle2]

Why do we need this?

Need what? I am new to the thread and maybe I have missed history or something?

 

[Jennasis]

Wut?

 

[disneychrista]

Need what? I am new to the thread and maybe I have missed history or something?

The title of the thread says we need adult themed shows about space & future technology. Was asking why we need this.

 

[kanerf]

I really enjoy Stargate SG1 and it's two other series. There is hope for a continuation on MGM Plus at some point.

 

[Beezle2]

The title of the thread says we need adult themed shows about space & future technology. Was asking why we need this.

Ahh.. gotcha As a lover of good adult shows about space and future technology I didn't pause, I suited up.

 

[Smugpugmug]

Oh, that is good to know. I am on a 7 day free trial and thought I had to pay. I will try and figure out how to avoid the charge.

I don't have an account and I'm able to play the episodes. I think on Crunchyroll the "legacy" content is free. Only episodes released the same week as they air in Japan require a subscription.

 

[JayDomK]

But sadly it seems like fans of Trek and Wars are not interested in checking out other franchises and that non Star Wars and Trek fans think that it is a childish genre.

I enjoyed the Star Trek, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Star Wars movies but I have to say that The Expanse and Mass Effect were my favorite space sagas.

Like Trek and Wars they had lovable spaceship crews but their stories and universes seemed new, interesting, and exciting compared to those existing franchises which have been done to death. Unlike Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy the universes of Mass Effect and The Expanse seemed more scientific compared to the fantastical universes of Wars and GOTG.

I also loved Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the Deep". It evoked a sense of wonder I haven't felt since playing the first Mass Effect a decade ago.

Before GOT fantasy outside of the LOTR and Harry Potter movies were seen as a genre reserved for people who lived in basements but GOT managed to captivate a huge mainstream audience.

It still seems that stuff with spaceships and aliens are still seen as childish by society even by people who enjoy Wars and Trek.

I find it kind of sad the people who are fans of Trek and Wars are not campaigning for Hollywood to give us a all new space saga set in a new exciting universe.

I think it would be cool if mainstream TV viewers were going crazy over something on TV with a lovable spaceship crew, intergalactic mystery, political intrigue, and exotic futuristic technology but with a HBO quality story line and sex that changed people's perception of that genre like Game of Thrones did for fantasy.

I think we need a far future space adventure on TV that is like The Expanse or Mass Effect that was of HBO level quality but on a service that can reach a wider audience like HBO or Netflix.

And I think that show should be set in an optimistic and exciting vision of the future rather than a setting like The Expanse, I don't think TV viewers would be excited to live as wage slaves on asteroids or military fascists on Mars but yet has the lovable spaceship crew, exciting space battles, political intrigue, and gripping story as well as a universe that seems more scientific than fantastical like The Expanse rather than Star Wars or Guardians of the Galaxy.

I found Apple TV's "Foundation" and Paramount's "Halo" to be bland. But I don't feel that way about all Apple products. For example, I like Apple Pay for its simplicity and the possibility to use it in casinos. It's convenient. I use Apple Pay quite often. More often than I use TV.

I fully support your opinion. I love space sci-fi, and I want more quality space sci-fi.
Until it's available, I watch the old Stargate series. I like it

 

[JayDomK]

I have never seen fans of any genre campaigning. Something is popular and it is Hollywood who decides if there is enough profit to be made.

Like fantasy, sci-fi can be expensive to make. And I think for Star Wars and Star Trek a lot is connected to nostalgia. In the 70s space travel was new and exciting, that helped its popularity, now it's not really anymore.

Of course, it will be up to Hollywood to decide whether or not to film it. But I'm sure that if they make a quality movie, there will be a profit.
And I wouldn't think that there are fewer fans of space sci-fi than there were in the 70's.

 

[BrianL]

Like fantasy, sci-fi can be expensive to make. And I think for Star Wars and Star Trek a lot is connected to nostalgia. In the 70s space travel was new and exciting, that helped its popularity, now it's not really anymore.

This is the biggest issue with sci-fi on TV. It is expensive to make, and if it doesn't pull better than average ratings, it will be the first thing to cut. If they cheap-out on the SFX though, viewers will likely be turned off by that. It's tough to launch any kind of new sci-fi IP too in a market that just loves the classic franchises.

 

[jimmymc]

The Orville is very similar to Star Trek, but with better dialogue and plotlines.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

It's been a while since I've heard anything about the proposed reboot of Babylon 5, so I'm assuming it's not going to happen.

Right now it's looking like it's not going to happen.

I'm not a big fan of the Star Trek reboot films. I mean I do like the movies and everything. In fact they were great. But I'm not a fan that it was a reboot. Reboots just mess up your storylines. Like when the next one comes out. OK are we in the reboot universe or the original universe or the parallel original universe? or the parallel reboot universe?
It's getting to be Shroedinger's Spock. He's both alive and dead until observed in or out of the next movie!!!! I'm certainly for a series much like Babylon 5. But make it a new one, not a reboot.

 

[ttintagel]

Right now it's looking like it's not going to happen.

I'm not a big fan of the Star Trek reboot films. I mean I do like the movies and everything. In fact they were great. But I'm not a fan that it was a reboot. Reboots just mess up your storylines. Like when the next one comes out. OK are we in the reboot universe or the original universe or the parallel original universe? or the parallel reboot universe?
It's getting to be Shroedinger's Spock. He's both alive and dead until observed in or out of the next movie!!!! I'm certainly for a series much like Babylon 5. But make it a new one, not a reboot.

Yeah, I think I would have preferred new stories about all-new characters in the same universe. But people willing to take a real creative risk don't get as much opportunity to do that as they should in today's Hollywood.

 

[nancipants]

This is the biggest issue with sci-fi on TV. It is expensive to make, and if it doesn't pull better than average ratings, it will be the first thing to cut. If they cheap-out on the SFX though, viewers will likely be turned off by that. It's tough to launch any kind of new sci-fi IP too in a market that just loves the classic franchises.

This is one of the reasons I cannot understand why a Vorkosigan adaptation has never happened. While it's a space opera, a large portion of the series takes place on different planets, and there are few actual space battles. The main planet is very much like Earth. I feel like it would be very inexpensive compared to other SF shows out there.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Yeah, I think I would have preferred new stories about all-new characters in the same universe. But people willing to take a real creative risk don't get as much opportunity to do that as they should in today's Hollywood.

Nail meet hammer. It's far easier to just tweak an existing hit than it is to make an all new one. And until we get someone that will do that, I look forward to Batman's back story, the 6th reboot.

This is one of the reasons I cannot understand why a Vorkosigan adaptation has never happened. While it's a space opera, a large portion of the series takes place on different planets, and there are few actual space battles. The main planet is very much like Earth. I feel like it would be very inexpensive compared to other SF shows out there.

Battlestar Gallactica tried that. Remember the sequel show where they dropped two agents on earth to try and advance our technology....... A lot of people don't because it didn't go over so well and it didn't get watched.