Uhm....Bahamas is now requiring vaccinations for all passengers over 12..

[_auroraborealis_]

They have already required DCL crew to be vaxxed.

DCL crew also isn't union, which is the key relative to the WDW rule.

 

[soniam]

That said - if you have a recommendation for a smaller ship with a less party like atmosphere and preferably no casino let me know for sure!

As @niccikatie said, Celebrity is great. Can't comment on kids though. We did it without our son in April outside of a holiday. Plus, it was a 9 night SC that left from San Juan. We were on Summit and loved it. The passengers were generally incredibly friendly. The staff was amazing. The ship didn't feel huge at all. We have never done the classic DCL ships so can't compare. We do DCL with our son though. Can't wait to hopefully do a longer Celebrity cruise by ourselves again for our 25th anniversary in 2023.

 

[DCLMP]

How hard is that though? It takes them four days to draft an email that says "vaxxed only please!"? It took the other cruise lines HOURS to update their sites. not days. If that's the case this has really been ridiculous on DCL's part...

Maybe that's not the email they want to send out. It was easy for the other cruise lines because they were chomping at the bit for any excuse to mandate vaccines. I have no idea what DCL is thinking.

 

[randumb0]

I'm interested to know how the cruise lines plan to ask for proof of vaccination

 

[sethschroeder]

I'm interested to know how the cruise lines plan to ask for proof of vaccination

Submit your card through safe passage and show the card at port.

Are you thinking something different?

 

[MouseinMelbourne]

I'm interested to know how the cruise lines plan to ask for proof of vaccination

You’re given proof of your vaccination when you get your vaccination.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

You’re given proof of your vaccination when you get your vaccination.

Also, as per the CDC, each vaccine administered is documented in the VAMS website. So I assume Safe Passage checks these. Maybe they do random checks. I don’t know.

 

[sethschroeder]

Also, as per the CDC, each vaccine administered is documented in the VAMS website. So I assume Safe Passage checks these. Maybe they do random checks. I don’t know.

I dont think this is accurate. I don't think all states and regions are reporting trackable data here and additionally various locations require no documentation as to identity to be vaccinated.

Now maybe there are ways to still check but not sure.

I tried checking and it doesn't really outline which locations are except that some are using VAMs. Additionally it seems that if you were vaccinated in a VAMs location that you would give given a login? Maybe this is new though and some people are still tracked there without have a login?

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

I dont think this is accurate. I don't think all states and regions are reporting trackable data here and additionally various locations require no documentation as to identity to be vaccinated.

Now maybe there are ways to still check but not sure.

Access Vaccination Certificates in VAMS | CDC

 

[sethschroeder]

Access Vaccination Certificates in VAMS | CDC

Correct but not everyone is submitting data there it seems even from the VAMs FAQ. I am guessing here based on other things but I suspect certain states even disallowed submitting data here as to avoid a federal vaccine registry (which is a hot topic that both side of the aisle have different reasons why they dislike it).

 

[Lucijoy]

Submit your card through safe passage and show the card at port.

Are you thinking something different?

I was thinking something different—like how are they asking/requiring in light of the Florida ”can’t require/ask for proof” mandate.

 

[randumb0]

Submit your card through safe passage and show the card at port.

Are you thinking something different?

How can the cruise lines ask for it without breaking the law though?

 

[Malestrom Troll]

Access Vaccination Certificates in VAMS | CDC

Texas doesn't use VAMS. They use ImmTrac2 which is their own vaccination registry. Not many states use VAMS.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

How can the cruise lines ask for it without breaking the law though?

Up until now they were requiring 2 sets of tests to be done but then waived those test requirements for those who chose to prove they’re vaccinated.

 

[sethschroeder]

How can the cruise lines ask for it without breaking the law though?

NCL got an injunction so they can ask for it right now. Now other cruise lines are just doing it as maybe they think if FL did try to fine them they would win in court at that point since its a requirement for international travel.

But basically the way its happening is just showing your vaccination card and if you dont you are denied boarding.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

Correct but not everyone is submitting data there it seems even from the VAMs FAQ. I am guessing here based on other things but I suspect certain states even disallowed submitting data here as to avoid a federal vaccine registry (which is a hot topic that both side of the aisle have different reasons why they dislike it).

I see that only a handful of states are using it. I hope SP is able to verify somehow.

 

[Malestrom Troll]

How can the cruise lines ask for it without breaking the law though?

Lately it seems that entities and individuals are willing to break laws they don't like and hope they end up winning in court.

 

[sethschroeder]

I see that only a handful of states are using it. I hope SP is able to verify somehow.

About a 0% chance as outlined in some states there is zero requirement regarding proof of identity. So even if they had access to every database in the US they would still have holes in their data since the individual could have chosen to without their information or had the vaccination at a non-tracked location.

 

[sethschroeder]

Still no update to the DCL site but a number hours left until morning if they do update overnight. Which possibly just means they enter the information but hold the launch of the site update until morning.

 

[AquaDame]

Maybe so - it's better IMO to have the annoucement coincide with the update, that way they can control the narrative instead of risking people misunderstanding overnight.