Especially for Rise. The preshows really make the experience what it is.I don’t count once you hit merge at ROTR as queue anymore. That’s where the ride experience starts in my opinion.
Especially for Rise. The preshows really make the experience what it is.I don’t count once you hit merge at ROTR as queue anymore. That’s where the ride experience starts in my opinion.
And don't forget, RoR queue has benches! *clap*I'd say this depends on what you consider part of the queue. Technically all the preshow is still queue, as you're still waiting to get on the ride, and if the preshow didn't exist, it would just be a longer queue line. The elements before the preshow, Avatar is better. Though I do hate how long it seems you wait in the final hallway ala Soarin'. When you compare the total package, an hour total experience time for RotR is much more enjoyable than an hour total experience time (which is still extremely rare to find a wait that short) for FoP IMO.
I have always thought it was a bit ridiculous to allow the 60 day window guests to book ALL of the FPs for an attraction. It's one thing to give them first bite, but the only bite? They should hold back some availability until the 30 day window, even like 25%. I do realize of course the need to cater to onsite guests - the biggest problem is simply too much demand and not enough bandwidth.
Wouldn't guests who didn't get what they wanted at 60 days then just also try at 30 though? That would just increase the amount of people trying on 'your' day and they would still have advantage with length of stay.
I think people will choose their priority and possibly do the other ride park open/close, or do 2 days at HS and pick one of each.
That's what makes me wonder about MMRR/RoR. If they decide you have to choose a VQ and there's no standby, that basically locks out anybody from doing both in 1 day. I could see that making many guests unhappy.
Not as of yet.Also concerning MMRR, I thought I saw in one of these threads this morning it was posted on the hub that FP is coming for that one? Am I totally imagining that?
Also concerning MMRR, I thought I saw in one of these threads this morning it was posted on the hub that FP is coming for that one? Am I totally imagining that?
There is a fastpass entrance, but no indication if it will be used from the start or not.
I know, but I thought I saw a post referencing the hub this morning.
Nothing yet. Every indication shows they won't open that attraction with FP.I know, but I thought I saw a post referencing the hub this morning.
The system is a bit of a mess I think. Even staying on-site is problematic, unless you're there 6+ days.True, but it still gives you a shot, as opposed to no shot at all.
Right .. and as much as we dont like it, the length of stay bonus also encourages LONGER stays. The more hotels Disney has (and offiste ones they open up to 60-day window) the higher demand there is for those 60-day fast passes and it may get people to stay a bit longer to help lock those hard to get ones.Holding back spaces just decreases the onsite advantage. What would be Disney’s motivation? Missing out on a few headliners at 30 days doesn’t seem to deter people from coming.
may as well just stay offsite if I cant get the top tier fast passes at 60 days.
LOL .. thats a big jump from the values.I believe Disney is hoping you'll say "I better stay club level so I can just pay for these fast passes".
We may have just gotten massively lucky, but my FP day for a late March trip was Tuesday and I got my group of 8 on 7DMT at 60+1 (earliest time noon), FoP on 60+3, and SDD was available on 60+4 but it was afternoon (around 2 I think) so I didn’t take it as we have later days where I secured it.
Last October (party of 2) I was able to get 7DMT on 60+1, FoP on I want to say +3 and SDD on I think +4.
I personally like this new tier update for DHS.
Previously, you could only get one of: Tower of Terror, Rock and Roller, Toy Story Mania, Alien Swirling Saucers. Regardless of Slinky Dog's status. Now you can get two of those and Millenium Falcon, if you can't get Slinky Dog. Way better.
If you can't get Slinky Dog Dash: your day at DHS:
Arrive early for ROTR BG Distribution, SDD rope drop, aim for Rock and Roller next, Swirling Saucers, MFSR FP, TOT FP, TSM FP, then Star Tours at your leisure.
Both AK and DHS have two rides on Tier 1 FP. I'd think FOP gets like 95-99% of the initial draw over Navi. SDD won't get as high of a draw compared to FOP. My guess is like 75% of the initial draw. Yes, it would be the more popular of the two, but not as much as FOP over Navi.