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News Round Up 2017





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Disney has officially announced and released points for Copper Creek DVC July 2017 opening.

https://disneyvacationclub.disney.g.../copper-creek-villas-and-cabins/points-rooms/

So a couple things to note here with a real quick glance:

1) The points for studios, 1-bedrooms, and 2-bedrooms are the same amount as for Boulder Ridge (WLV 1.0). This makes a lot of sense, making neither side preferable to the other. It also makes it easier when/if they try to combine the two resorts into a single one someday. I could see them doing this when BR expires they sell extended contracts to match the ending of CC.

2) The cabins are about 20 % less expensive than the Poly cabins, and they are also slightly less expensive (7-8%) than a Grand Villa. This seems to be more in line with where these cabins SHOULD be versus what they are "charging" at the Poly. They still sleep only 8 and are a heck of a lot more than the 2-bedroom villas - as in 250% more points than a 2-bedroom villa.

3) We don't know 100% what the total units will be - but this resort seems like it might be EXTREMELY top-heavy. In other words - while the Poly has the cabins that account for 25% of the total number of points, the rest of the units are studios. IF the predicted #s are right and (breaking up the lock-offs) and there are 53 studios, 55 1-bedrooms, 72 dedicated 2-bedrooms, 6 grand villas, and 26 cabins, that means that means only 9.4 PERCENT of the available room points are in studios, while SEVENTY PERCENT of points are tied up in 2-bedrooms or larger. (The remaining 20% is in 1-bedrooms.) If the predicted distribution is correct - and I hope like heck it is not - getting a studio at Copper Creek is going to be virtually impossible for owners there. (Studios typically account for about 20% of points at a resort, and at many resorts a much higher percentage than that. VGF - where owners have difficulty getting studios at 11 months - 16% of the points are available as studios.) I really hope those predicted numbers are wrong and there are more lock-offs than predicted.
 
So a couple things to note here with a real quick glance:

1) The points for studios, 1-bedrooms, and 2-bedrooms are the same amount as for Boulder Ridge (WLV 1.0). This makes a lot of sense, making neither side preferable to the other. It also makes it easier when/if they try to combine the two resorts into a single one someday. I could see them doing this when BR expires they sell extended contracts to match the ending of CC.

2) The cabins are about 20 % less expensive than the Poly cabins, and they are also slightly less expensive (7-8%) than a Grand Villa. This seems to be more in line with where these cabins SHOULD be versus what they are "charging" at the Poly. They still sleep only 8 and are a heck of a lot more than the 2-bedroom villas - as in 250% more points than a 2-bedroom villa.

3) We don't know 100% what the total units will be - but this resort seems like it might be EXTREMELY top-heavy. In other words - while the Poly has the cabins that account for 25% of the total number of points, the rest of the units are studios. IF the predicted #s are right and (breaking up the lock-offs) and there are 53 studios, 55 1-bedrooms, 72 dedicated 2-bedrooms, 6 grand villas, and 26 cabins, that means that means only 9.4 PERCENT of the available room points are in studios, while SEVENTY PERCENT of points are tied up in 2-bedrooms or larger. (The remaining 20% is in 1-bedrooms.) If the predicted distribution is correct - and I hope like heck it is not - getting a studio at Copper Creek is going to be virtually impossible for owners there. (Studios typically account for about 20% of points at a resort, and at many resorts a much higher percentage than that. VGF - where owners have difficulty getting studios at 11 months - 16% of the points are available as studios.) I really hope those predicted numbers are wrong and there are more lock-offs than predicted.
I agree. The only thing I'll comment on is the cabins I think are less expensive for another reason too because they don't have that "view" of the MK from their porch/balcony.
 
For Copper Creek:

Annual dues start at $7.33 per point for 2017, the most expensive of any DVC resort on site.

I saw this as well - that is a scary starting number! The existing BRV is $6.54 this year. I know they got in trouble for underselling Aulani's annual dues, but the Poly is only $6.14. This tells me lots of infrastructure costs for the # of units. It also makes me wonder if BRV owners are going to see a big jump next year.
 

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