MEP LL no longer allowed on Non-LL attractions

DLRExpert · Sep 28, 2023

Update 9/28
MEP Gold and Silver tier LL no longer list non-LL attractions as excluded.
Unsure if you can now use them on non-LL attractions.

Captain.Eeyore · Sep 28, 2023

DLRExpert said:
Update 9/28
MEP Gold and Silver tier LL no longer list non-LL attractions as excluded.
Unsure if you can now use them on non-LL attractions.

So, back to how it was before?

chezcurrie · Sep 29, 2023

Can also confirm as of 9/24 acceleration still works. I also noticed non LL rides like fantasyland were not excluded. They weren’t included either. Unfortunately (or fortunately) we did not have the need to use one as we used that golden MEP for two rides on HMH.

Edited

mom2rtk · Sep 30, 2023

chezcurrie said:
Can also confirm as of 9/24 the acceleration bug still worked. I also noticed non LL rides like fantasyland were not excluded. They weren’t included either. Unfortunately (or fortunately) we did not have the need to use one as we used that golden MEP for two rides on HMH.

I really haven't been plugged into the DL side of things for a while. I have seen reference to the "acceleration bug" but don't have a clue what it is. Can you clue me in?

Tom_E_D · Sep 30, 2023

mom2rtk said:
I really haven't been plugged into the DL side of things for a while. I have seen reference to the "acceleration bug" but don't have a clue what it is. Can you clue me in?

The MEP acceleration feature works like this. If you have an MEP that you can use for a certain ride and also have a LL for the same ride, tapping into the ride will use up the LL, not the MEP, even if the LL was for a later time of day. This has been described as accelerating the return time for the LL. It also means that you still have your MEP after riding and can do the same thing for another ride, and then another ride, etc. You're still limited to one LL per Genie+ attraction per day, and the MEP has to allow you to ride that ride (so no silver MEPs for gold rides), but you don't have to wait for LL return times as long as you have both the MEP and a LL for the same ride. And let's stop calling it a "bug" before someone points it out to Disney IT as something that needs to be fixed.

chezcurrie · Sep 30, 2023

And let's stop calling it a "b**”before someone points it out to Disney IT as something that needs to be fixed.

Edited my entry a such. It really is a game changer.

mom2rtk · Sep 30, 2023

Tom_E_D said:
The MEP acceleration feature works like this. If you have an MEP that you can use for a certain ride and also have a LL for the same ride, tapping into the ride will use up the LL, not the MEP, even if the LL was for a later time of day. This has been described as accelerating the return time for the LL. It also means that you still have your MEP after riding and can do the same thing for another ride, and then another ride, etc. You're still limited to one LL per Genie+ attraction per day, and the MEP has to allow you to ride that ride (so no silver MEPs for gold rides), but you don't have to wait for LL return times as long as you have both the MEP and a LL for the same ride. And let's stop calling it a "bug" before someone points it out to Disney IT as something that needs to be fixed.

Ah, got it! Thanks so much for explaining.

ballarinamom · Oct 8, 2023

Tom_E_D said:
The MEP acceleration feature works like this. If you have an MEP that you can use for a certain ride and also have a LL for the same ride, tapping into the ride will use up the LL, not the MEP, even if the LL was for a later time of day. This has been described as accelerating the return time for the LL. It also means that you still have your MEP after riding and can do the same thing for another ride, and then another ride, etc. You're still limited to one LL per Genie+ attraction per day, and the MEP has to allow you to ride that ride (so no silver MEPs for gold rides), but you don't have to wait for LL return times as long as you have both the MEP and a LL for the same ride. And let's stop calling it a "bug" before someone points it out to Disney IT as something that needs to be fixed.

So let me make sure I get this straight. I have an LL for Indy for a later time. But I got an MEP from my earlier Indy LL bjt the ride was down and it switched to an MEP. If I have a new LL for Indy at a later time AND my MEP from Indy earlier, I scan my LL at any time? And does it have to be Indy since I read it needs to be the same ride?

Tom_E_D · Oct 8, 2023

ballarinamom said:
So let me make sure I get this straight. I have an LL for Indy for a later time. But I got an MEP from my earlier Indy LL bjt the ride was down and it switched to an MEP. If I have a new LL for Indy at a later time AND my MEP from Indy earlier, I scan my LL at any time? And does it have to be Indy since I read it needs to be the same ride?

Indy is gold tier so your MEP (for Indy being down) will let you ride any Genie+ ride. If you make a LL for Indy for 3:00, have the MEP, and tap into Indy at 2:00, you will use your 3:00 Indy LL, not your MEP. That's MEP acceleration. But it isn't just limited to Indy (because you got the MEP for Indy being down). It's good for any Genie+ ride (because it's gold tier). If you have a LL for Space Mountain for 4:00 and tap in at 2:00, it'll use the LL, not the MEP. My "same ride" referred to the fact that you can't use a silver tier MEP (e.g. one given for Big Thunder being down) to accelerate the LL for a gold tier ride like Indy . . . and the LL has to be for the ride you're getting in line for. So, if you have a MEP for Indy being down, a LL for Space Mt. later in the day, and tap in to Indy, it'll use the MEP, not the LL for Space Mountain. To accelerate a LL, you need a LL for the ride you're tapping into and an MEP that can be used for that ride.

ballarinamom · Oct 8, 2023

Thanks so much for confirming!

ballarinamom · Oct 8, 2023

Tom_E_D said:
Indy is gold tier so your MEP (for Indy being down) will let you ride any Genie+ ride. If you make a LL for Indy for 3:00, have the MEP, and tap into Indy at 2:00, you will use your 3:00 Indy LL, not your MEP. That's MEP acceleration. But it isn't just limited to Indy (because you got the MEP for Indy being down). It's good for any Genie+ ride (because it's gold tier). If you have a LL for Space Mountain for 4:00 and tap in at 2:00, it'll use the LL, not the MEP. My "same ride" referred to the fact that you can't use a silver tier MEP (e.g. one given for Big Thunder being down) to accelerate the LL for a gold tier ride like Indy . . . and the LL has to be for the ride you're getting in line for. So, if you have a MEP for Indy being down, a LL for Space Mt. later in the day, and tap in to Indy, it'll use the MEP, not the LL for Space Mountain. To accelerate a LL, you need a LL for the ride you're tapping into and an MEP that can be used for that ride.

Thanks!

EEva · Oct 9, 2023

Tom_E_D said:
Indy is gold tier so your MEP (for Indy being down) will let you ride any Genie+ ride. If you make a LL for Indy for 3:00, have the MEP, and tap into Indy at 2:00, you will use your 3:00 Indy LL, not your MEP. That's MEP acceleration. But it isn't just limited to Indy (because you got the MEP for Indy being down). It's good for any Genie+ ride (because it's gold tier). If you have a LL for Space Mountain for 4:00 and tap in at 2:00, it'll use the LL, not the MEP. My "same ride" referred to the fact that you can't use a silver tier MEP (e.g. one given for Big Thunder being down) to accelerate the LL for a gold tier ride like Indy . . . and the LL has to be for the ride you're getting in line for. So, if you have a MEP for Indy being down, a LL for Space Mt. later in the day, and tap in to Indy, it'll use the MEP, not the LL for Space Mountain. To accelerate a LL, you need a LL for the ride you're tapping into and an MEP that can be used for that ride.

Can I just confirm, when you "tap in" that would be just using your ticket, and not the barcode for either the MEP or the LL for a later time?
Can you even just scan your ticket at the LL taps?

Captain.Eeyore · Oct 9, 2023

EEva said:
Can I just confirm, when you "tap in" that would be just using your ticket, and not the barcode for either the MEP or the LL for a later time?
Can you even just scan your ticket at the LL taps?

They're all the same. I always just use my ticket.

meower13 · Oct 9, 2023

Can anyone confirm if acceleration will also work with rider swap? you've potentially saved the day for mom and dad with my upcoming trip with a very fiesty toddler!

kristensideaoffun · Oct 9, 2023

meower13 said:
Can anyone confirm if acceleration will also work with rider swap? you've potentially saved the day for mom and dad with my upcoming trip with a very fiesty toddler!

If you are using Genie+ with Rider Swap, you will both scan your Lightening Lane and then a CM will give whoever is waiting the Rider Swap pass. There is no way acceleration will work because you have to scan your LL to get a Rider Swap.

The Rider Swap system is not connected to the Genie system. When you get a rider swap pass, it is linked to only the ride you are swapping on. It doesn’t even usually convert to an MEP if the ride goes down. I’ve had to go to guest services to request them switch it to an MEP.

twodogs · Oct 9, 2023

kristensideaoffun said:
If you are using Genie+ with Rider Swap, you will both scan your Lightening Lane and then a CM will give whoever is waiting the Rider Swap pass. There is no way acceleration will work because you have to scan your LL to get a Rider Swap.

The Rider Swap system is not connected to the Genie system. When you get a rider swap pass, it is linked to only the ride you are swapping on. It doesn’t even usually convert to an MEP if the ride goes down. I’ve had to go to guest services to request them switch it to an MEP.

Another detail for those that are following along (As this is a little confusing to me!), you can’t scan your LL until the time window opens for the LL (and then the “redeem” button shows up). This is for everyone, not just for Rider Swap. So when you are accelerating, you have to either scan your ticket or the MEP, as the LL is not available yet to “redeem”.

meower13 · Oct 13, 2023

kristensideaoffun said:
If you are using Genie+ with Rider Swap, you will both scan your Lightening Lane and then a CM will give whoever is waiting the Rider Swap pass. There is no way acceleration will work because you have to scan your LL to get a Rider Swap.

The Rider Swap system is not connected to the Genie system. When you get a rider swap pass, it is linked to only the ride you are swapping on. It doesn’t even usually convert to an MEP if the ride goes down. I’ve had to go to guest services to request them switch it to an MEP.

So you can't use rider swap with a MEP?

kristensideaoffun · Oct 13, 2023

meower13 said:
So you can't use rider swap with a MEP?

If you have an MEP, you can use rider swap with it. If a ride goes down while you have a rider swap, it will not automatically convert to an MEP like a LL would.

meower13 · Oct 14, 2023

kristensideaoffun said:
If you have an MEP, you can use rider swap with it. If a ride goes down while you have a rider swap, it will not automatically convert to an MEP like a LL would.

Thanks! On our way today for the first time with a kid so it's all a bit new to us again!!!

ValpoCory · Feb 29, 2024

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Update 9/28
MEP Gold and Silver tier LL no longer list non-LL attractions as excluded.
Unsure if you can now use them on non-LL attractions.

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