Call him what you want but he had an agenda and a very specific target. That's a terrorism. He's a terrorist. There's nothing mentally wrong this person. He knew exactly what he was doing.
My point is, it's not that accurate to call him right wing, when he could also be called left wing, depending on the issue. He sounds like an overall nutter, and as with many people like him, has contradictory views. If journalists take the time to break down that rambling manifesto of his, I would imagine some extremely strange things will surface.
While he doesn't qualify as legally insane, no one who does what he did is anything less than deeply disturbed.
Actually no one here called him right wing. They said he identifies with white nationalist extremists.
It's true that he may have had views on a wide range of topics, some of them contradictory. I wonder which views of his were the motivator behind this attack? Do you think it was his environmentalism views? His love of China or hatred of the 1%? Or perhaps it could be his white nationalist anti-immigrant views? Hmm, I wonder which one.
Nope. The white guy doesn't get to use the "deeply disturbed" label. He's a terrorist. The end.My point is, it's not that accurate to call him right wing, when he could also be called left wing, depending on the issue. He sounds like an overall nutter, and as with many people like him, has contradictory views. If journalists take the time to break down that rambling manifesto of his, I would imagine some extremely strange things will surface.
While he doesn't qualify as legally insane, no one who does what he did is anything less than deeply disturbed.
I believe terrorists ARE deeply disturbed. That doesn’t mean they aren’t responsible for their actions or that they lack planning skills. But normal people don’t commit terrorist acts. Emotionally, something is terribly off with you if you can commit such acts.Nope. The white guy doesn't get to use the "deeply disturbed" label. He's a terrorist. The end.
Actually no one here called him right wing. They said he identifies with white nationalist extremists.
It's true that he may have had views on a wide range of topics, some of them contradictory. I wonder which views of his were the motivator behind this attack? Do you think it was his environmentalism views? His love of China or hatred of the 1%? Or perhaps it could be his white nationalist anti-immigrant views? Hmm, I wonder which one.
I believe terrorists ARE deeply disturbed. That doesn’t mean they aren’t responsible for their actions or that they lack planning skills. But normal people don’t commit terrorist acts. Emotionally, something is terribly off with you if you can commit such acts.
ETA: Live streaming it fits right in with some of what he wrote. He wanted to be famous, as is the goal of so many today. That seems to have been a strong motivation for him.
History has shown us that statement is not true.But normal people don’t commit terrorist acts.
Actually no one here called him right wing. They said he identifies with white nationalist extremists.
It's true that he may have had views on a wide range of topics, some of them contradictory. I wonder which views of his were the motivator behind this attack? Do you think it was his environmentalism views? His love of China or hatred of the 1%? Or perhaps it could be his white nationalist anti-immigrant views? Hmm, I wonder which one.
He said he took true inspiration from Anders Breivik. He vowed to take revenge for the European lives lost in terrorist attacks.
I guess you didn't think that was worth mentioning.
Alleged?!!! Tell that to the victims of 9/11......
What a scary thought process.
I said he identifies with white nationalist extremists ... that pretty much covers Breivik, no?
As far as the mental issue question. I think in some cases that is a cause. But in other cases such as this one, I think it is more of a cult-think type situation. Perpetrators like this one immerse themselves in a counter-culture that reinforces their views, and result in almost a brain-washing effect that culminates in violence. The more mainstream these views are allowed to become, the more emboldened they are. Works the exact same way as ISIS - their members are not mentally unstable - they are brainwashed in the ideology of their particular cult.
And, what are we doing to identify these cults and groups?
I said he identifies with white nationalist extremists ... that pretty much covers Breivik, no?
Well sure, I guess mentioning by name, the person who the shooter directly said was his true inspiration, but a non-American who isn't our President didn't really fit the narrative you were trying to sell with your first two posts in this thread then.
As far as the mental issue question. I think in some cases that is a cause. But in other cases such as this one, I think it is more of a cult-think type situation. Perpetrators like this one immerse themselves in a counter-culture that reinforces their views, and result in almost a brain-washing effect that culminates in violence. The more mainstream these views are allowed to become, the more emboldened they are. Works the exact same way as ISIS - their members are not mentally unstable - they are brainwashed in the ideology of their particular cult.
And, what are we doing to identify these cults and groups?
I can somewhat agree with you here about the mental issue, except the part about how mainstream these views have become. These views are still on the fringe, the far end of the extreme.
I personally think the goal of this is to make these views more mainstream, to show the world "what is right" because they don't feel enough of us think they way they do. Of course that is just IMO, I'm not making any claims that is what the reason is.
I can somewhat agree with you here about the mental issue, except the part about how mainstream these views have become. These views are still on the fringe, the far end of the extreme.
I personally think the goal of this is to make these views more mainstream, to show the world "what is right" because they don't feel enough of us think they way they do. Of course that is just IMO, I'm not making any claims that is what the reason is.