It’s not that people here don’t value your opinions on the matter and I’m sorry if you were made to feel that way by this discussion. I can understand *why* you feel the way that you do about it but don’t necessarily agree with it myself or agree that some of the “evidence” you provided had any relevance on what was being discussed at the time. It’s just that the way you were trying to get your opinions across was very forceful and off putting (you spoke down to and tried to belittle me several times and I don’t appreciate that) and the way you were going about it felt like, to me at least anyway, like you were acting like you spoke for everyone who’s a fan of Star Wars with what you were saying so definitively here and other people here were just trying to get the point across to you that there’s actually a lot more people out there in the real world than you realise that don’t actually believe or agree with that rhetoric about Luke/Rey/the sequels etc.
You keep saying “50,000 people this” and “half the fan base that” who all think and agree with these specific arguments when you can’t substantiate that because a good chuck of people who are fans of and like the franchise aren’t even publicly engaging with it in that kind of way. Of course people who all think the same way about something or have the same opinions are going to flock together and seek each other out where they can and carve out a place on the internet where they can all validate each others criticisms and dislikes and in turn feel like the majority by doing that and through the algorithms bringing up similar content to what they’re already posting about so that’s all that they end up seeing about it. As I previously said, there’s also a lot YouTubers out there that don’t even really believe the snake oil their selling but just do it because they enjoy stirring things up and causing the divide in the fandom and know it’s going to get people hate-watching them or they know that appealing to a certain demographic of fans is going to get them the views they want and in turn keep bringing the money in for them too.
Not everyone who is a fan is going to be interviewed on their thoughts and have them published and nor are they going to be on the internet talking about SW 24/7 or making video content or podcasts for it etc so there’s a lot of voices, thoughts and opinions on the subject that really aren’t being heard so you can’t say that everyone thinks this or that way about the franchise and the direction it’s going in and be so black and white about it because you don’t actually know that for a fact.
There’s A LOT of valid criticisms out there about the mess that the sequels were and what happened behind the scenes making them that I absolutely agree with but there’s a lot that don’t make sense if you watched the films or hold any weight realistically when you think it through logically and realise that not everything is always going to cater to you specifically.
Everyone complained that The Force Awakens was too rooted in nostalgia and was too similar to A New Hope and that it didn’t take enough risks when it originally came out and people were expecting something new and exciting from SW with it and then what happened when Lucasfilm took a chance on Rian Johnson and made something different that took the franchise in an unexpected direction? Everyone cried about it and ripped it to shreds because it wasn’t what they’d been headcanoning for the last 40 years and then we ended up with the mess that was The Rise of Skywalker with Disney frantically trying to course correct with that film and then giving in to too much fanservice again and them having to scramble on how to change a major part of the story that they’d originally been leading up to and planning to tell due to the unfortunate real life tragedy of losing Carrie. They absolutely could have executed the sequels in a better way and had them all properly planned out before going into production and maybe taking a longer gap between films and having consistent direction could have aided in that and stopped them from being all over the place at times but they didn’t and that’s what caused them a lot of problems in the end.
