Just back from my first RC cruise - comparison to Disney

hethj7

Earning My Ears
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I thought I'd share a few thoughts as this topic seems to be common on the internet.

A few disclaimers as I compare and contrast things -
We cruised Disney twice, both pre-Covid, so can't compare both post-Covid.

We cruised on Mariner of the Seas, an older ship for RC, and knew that going in. We also paid roughly the same money for a 6 night cruise on this ship with a 2 Bedroom suite as what a single family balcony room cost us on Disney. We did lower our expectations a bit given how much cheaper this sailing was than a comparable Disney trip.

Pros -

The 2 bedroom suite was very large. Tons of storage, probably more than even 8 people would need if we had filled the suite to capacity (we had 5 in ours).

Boarding process was very smooth and like Disney, our non-suite guests were allowed to board with us even though not technically allowed by policy.

The day of leaving was maybe even smoother, as we got off and escorted all the way to our luggage by the suite concierge.

The common areas of the ship overall were clean and well maintained, I'd say similar to Disney.

All the staff we ran across were very friendly and helpful, again similar to Disney.

We didn't find staff lacking (except for the kitchen, more on that later), which was a concern I had since Disney may "overstaff" and run a higher staff to guest ratio.

Coco Cay and Labadee - our entire family agreed, these have Castaway beat. So many beaches, so much seating, on par with the number of free activities, and many more extra cost activity things to do. The food was great on each with more variety than Castaway, especially on Coco Cay. These were both big highlights of the trip.

Ice show - It was a great show they put on and while not Disney storytelling, RC did a nice job on this production.

We got an afternoon treat delivered to the suite for 3 straigth days, then they quite. It seemed odd - just about the time we expected it and looked forward to it, it stopped.

Suite lounge - Certainly it isn't a big reason to pay for a suite, but they had food and drinks between 5-8. Drinks were made from the bar and very good and the appetizer food was probably better than what we were getting in the MDR. Now, we also had 5:30 dining, and with the 90 plus minutes dinner service took, it didn't give us much time to enjoy the lounge.

Cons

The food overall was a major disappointment. Especially the Main Dining Room. Many meals there I wouldn't even consider average. Now, there were some good dished, like Caribbean night was a hit, but overall it fell below our expectations. We heard other complaints as well. (We did not try any of the specialty dining restaurants). The Strip steaks were probably the worst quality and cooked meat I ever recall having for a Strip, and we had them on multiple nights with similar results. The buffet was pretty similar to Disney in both selection and quality as I recall.

Allergy Menus - My wife has a dairy allergy. She got a quick explanation of what she could have at the windjammer, but in the MDR they just didn't seem like they could create tasty menu options for her like we are accustomed to on Disney, on the ships or at the parks.

Menu confusion - again, staff was very friendly, but when my wife ordered a vegan friendly option, the waiter advised her it wasn't diary friendly (how could it be vegan then?). The kids ordered a rainbow salad (made with fresh fruit) - a veggie salad come out instead with carrots, etc. When I inquired, they even stated all the veggies were fruit. My kids even chuckled and they ultimately did bring out the as-advertised fruit salad that had been ordered.

MDR kitchen - Our servers overall were great, but dining service took more than 90 minutes every night for 3 courses. It just seemed long and drawn out, with fairly small portions so many times there was just dead time waiting on the next course. I don't know if this is an RC thing or post-covid they are a bit short staffed like other businesses. The servers were running the whole time and very busy. We rarely felt their attention to us was lacking, but they certainly never got a moment to sit still.

Kids Clubs - we toured them and they all just looked like big rooms - very little theming, labeled drawers with different craft, etc. stuff presumably inside. I couldn't even talk our kids into going back to at least give us a review. Now, perhaps they were awesome once activities got going, but for our kids, they had no desire to even go try them out.

Rooms - they were certainly dated, which we expected going in. But, some items were actually in disrepair - like a ripped cushion on our balcony furniture. Wear and tear was to be expected, but some items seemed a bit beyond that.

Smoke - This is kind of neutral I guess, but their was a staff smoking area a few floors below our aft balcony and when they were out, smoke would find us, even when the ship was underway. Smoke also wafts out of the casino - not far, but there are some lounges just outside where we went for family trivia (name that Michael Jackson tune) and the smoke could be smelled. Now, that being said, the casino was not a smoke filled haze so it was also somewhat controlled.


Overall, we had fun and although I prefer Disney, when looking at pricing, I'll give RC a look in the future (and hope the food was just an anomaly, as that really was the largest detractor of our trip).
 
I know how it sounds to say "Try Carnival", but try Carnival...

That said, I would suggest to try Carnival on one of their 3 newest ships (Mardi Gras, Celebration, Jubilee). We did Mardi Gras a couple months after Oasis last year and all preferred the Mardi Gras, especially where included food is concerned. It was infinitely nicer than the CCL cruise we had taken about 5 years prior.

Royal needs to jettison their Johnny Rockets partnership and just add a free burger option (that's not in the WJ) like Guy's Burger on Carnival. Also, on the aforementioned 3 CCL ships, Shaq's Big Chicken definitely lived up to the hype...
 
Yea, Johnny Rockets took up a large amount of space and I rarely saw it that busy. We will see what is next for us and am certainly not against Carnival. We are Disney people at heart, but that love fades every time I price them these days, especially for cruises.
 
Yea, Johnny Rockets took up a large amount of space and I rarely saw it that busy. We will see what is next for us and am certainly not against Carnival. We are Disney people at heart, but that love fades every time I price them these days, especially for cruises.
We love DCL as well (in fact, we'll be on the Magic before too long), but have branched out and have tried many different lines and they all have something to offer.

Our DD is college-aged now, so our main preferences have changed. I'd say Virgin Voyages is now our favorite (the food is amazing) and Princess has become our go-to if we are not doing VV or DCL. In fact, we had one of our best cruises ever this year on a 12-night British Isles on the Regal Princess.

With younger kids/teens, though, they are probably going to like the "bells and whistles" on lines like Carnival, Royal, or NCL. One thing to remember as you consider future cruises is that it isn't even necessarily "which line" am I going on, but more important is "which ship on which line" am I going on? Mardi Gras will be very different from Carnival Ecstasy , Wonder OTS will be very different from Grandeur OTS, etc...
 


Sorry you had such a bad experience with dining. We have been on 4 cruises with Royal over the years including a recent Med one the beginning of July and they were wonderful in the MDR accommodating the allergies of my DH which are dairy and he also can’t have spices that are hot like black pepper. For dessert they had sorbet or fruit. In the windjammer for breakfast they made eggs or an omelet with fresh eggs using a non dairy no salt cooking spray.
 
We were on the Allure of the seas in early July and agree that the MDR food left a lot to be desired (although I didn't starve) but the wait staff went overboard to insure that our time there was pleasant and so that somewhat made up for the almost inedible food on most nights.

The teens spent time in the teen room but I can't comment on what that means other then they went. My autistic 6 year old, almost non-verbal, grandson when to the kids area twice. They let him move down to the 3-5 year old group (he just finished kindergarten this past spring) and it was perfect for him and he enjoyed going there. I almost wish we had tried sending him there earlier since he enjoyed it so much.

The room was fine, nothing special but the stateroom attendant did come in once a day and make sure the bed was made and we had clean towels. Never could get the extra towels I asked for but -

The main reason we chose this ship and cruise was so the kids would have access to the flowrider, rock wall, and all things teen/tween. They came away wanting to be back to carnival on our next family cruise. The hours that were available for them to use the flowrider etc were pretty limited for the most part. So Carnival it will be in 2025.

It wasn't a bad cruise it just didn't justify the price that I paid. By the time all was done it was almost as much as if we had gone on a Disney cruise instead.
 
We recently sailed on the Wonder of the Seas to Eastern Caribbean. We sailed Disney Cruise three times (Mexican Rivera, Eastern Caribbean and Alaska) prior to this cruise on RC.
We wanted to try a different liner to give our teen kids (M17, M16, F14) more activities on the ship-there were a lot more things for our kids to explore on this ship.

Pros:
The layout and the massive size of the ship was wonderful. We never felt that this ship was over crowded although the ship was at capacity. We loved the "Central Park," CocoCay, casino, water/dry slides, rock wall, ice skating and specialty restaurants.

We tired every specialty restaurant and we loved them all. The food and service were excellent and we dined several times at some of them. We loved Chops-their filet mignon was so tender. I have to mention that the included quick service restaurants like the Park Cafe and Solarium Bristo were great. We found these places to offer healthier options that tasted much better than the buffet food quality and choices.

We had two balcony rooms that we were able to room hop through the balcony wall divider-the room steward opened the wall for our family.

Cons:
Buffet was not good. The food didn't look fresh to me and the selection of food was limited. We ate there the first day for lunch and we never went back. We tried the MDR one time for breakfast, which was much better than the buffet but we didn't get a chance to try the MDR for lunch or dinner, so I can't compare if we would have liked the meals at the MDR.

The shopping is very limited. The RC merchandise is not popular as compared to the Disney Cruise products. We rarely saw people in the RC store. During cruise days, they were selling fragrances and watches at low prices. It kind of reminded me of a swap meet style event. They had stores that carried high end watches and a dedicated EFFY jewelry store.

Our kids said the the pools were not good. It was basically people standing around in the pool-there was no space to actually swim.

Overall, we thought this cruise was good because there were a lot of new things to do than what we were used to on DCL. It was amazing that RC was able to get the different designs of a 'broadwalk," Central Park," and "amusement park," all on a ship. After reflecting on our recent cruise, I don't think we would have enjoyed our vacation as much if we didn't buy the specialty dining package.

We decided as a family that we are finished cruising for a while. Our kids didn't find cruising as adventurous as they once did when they were younger.
 


Thank you for the review. We are going on the Mariner next year with family, my dad HATES the large ships and he's paying so we went with his choice. I would second the suggestion to try carnivals new ships. We did the Celebration in March and my kids said they liked it over DCL. We previously sailed on DCL dream and had a great time so I couldn't believe they liked carnival more. But the Celebration is a great ship, tons to do and they're a bit older now so they're getting out of their disney phase.
 
Once my kids reached the high school age and the Diz magic wore off for them, we started taking other lines. Due to the massive price difference between Diz and the rest, we will likely never be on a Diz cruise again. Diz is great, but we do not feel it is worth the price difference when the other lines have a very similar experience if your kids are no longer wowed by Disneyana.

We love Royal and Princess. We use both often and have found both to be very comparable to Diz, and a fraction of the cost. Coco Cay is the best private cruise ship island there is. The water park is sooo much fun and you can get the water park and beach time in on the same day most of the time. Coco Cay is better than Castaway.

Celebrity is solid, but is a step below Royal and Princess for us. Norwegian has some great ships, and some so-so. I would take the line again if they had a trip that appealed.

We tried out Carnival, but it is not for us. It felt like we had accidentally stumbled into a frat party. Was not a good experience and we will not be back on that line.
 
Thank you for the review. We are going on the Mariner next year with family, my dad HATES the large ships and he's paying so we went with his choice. I would second the suggestion to try carnivals new ships. We did the Celebration in March and my kids said they liked it over DCL. We previously sailed on DCL dream and had a great time so I couldn't believe they liked carnival more. But the Celebration is a great ship, tons to do and they're a bit older now so they're getting out of their disney phase.

We did Mariner last July after having previous sailed on larger ships (Allure, Oasis, Harmony, Anthem) - we loved it. Specifically we found we didn't really miss the Oasis class features, having less passengers generally meant less wait getting off the ship/elevators etc, and that the crew generally seemed happier. We sailed over July 4th so there was a bit of a party vibe on that day, but nothing close to what I would consider a frat-like environment - more like families and groups of adults having a good time without being rowdy.

The guitar player and singer in the British-style pub , and the singer in the piano bar, were both fantastic. Sorry can't recall their names.
 
Celebrity is solid, but is a step below Royal and Princess for us. Norwegian has some great ships, and some so-so. I would take the line again if they had a trip that appealed.

Many of my friends and family have recommended Celebrity to us as a supposedly more "adult oriented" and "upscale" version of Royal, but we have yet to try it. I'm curious to hear what you experienced that didn't appeal to you compared to sailing on Royal.
 
We tried our first Royal Caribbean cruise just a couple weeks ago. Overall we were pleased with the ship. Speed of embarkation and disembarkation was spot on. However we also found the main dining room and Windjammer food selections and prep to be sorely lacking to down right lousy. Food on Coco Cay was pretty decent. Judging from the food on Independence of the Seas it will take a lot of consideration before we try RC again.
 
Well, FWIW, we just got back from a 3 night on the Wish. Again, pricing aside as there is certainly a Disney premium, and then a Wish premium on top of it....but, we remember why we like Disney so much.

The ship is incredible - details are everywhere for the different themes, super clean and well maintained (Disney is always painting and scrubbing at ports and I didn't really see that on the Mariner, but assume it does happen).

The main thing was the food - it is just SO much better than what we experienced on Mariner - great steaks, scallops, salads, etc. at the main dining. And the Wish has 4 great anytime eateries - burgers, pizza, BBQ, and a Mexican cantina that all had really good food (albeit, the brisket was not one of them).

We went as just adults and other than touring the kids clubs, can't comment on if our kids would enjoy them. But, I'm pretty certain they would given the over the top theming. And just the wife and I found tons of areas on the ships to enjoy as just adults.
 
Yea - I get the ships are just a different class and age. But the food on our Mariner cruise was inexcusable. We're not really foodies, but on Mariner the food left a LOT to be desired.

We do owe Royal a trip on a newer, perhaps Oasis class ship to make a fair "apples to apples" review.
 
Yea - I get the ships are just a different class and age. But the food on our Mariner cruise was inexcusable. We're not really foodies, but on Mariner the food left a LOT to be desired.

We do owe Royal a trip on a newer, perhaps Oasis class ship to make a fair "apples to apples" review.
It’s not much better on Oasis (if you just do the included food).

If you really want good included food on a cruise, then you should try Virgin Voyages.
 
Royal has standardized the exact same menus over all their ships. No matter which one you sail you main dining room selections will be exactly the same fleet wide.
 
I'm going on Explorer next October so I am curious to see how the food is at that point.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Princess brings to the table, food wise. I doubt it will top the "souffles every night" experience I had with them 17 years ago.
 

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