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GBRforWDW
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gzh6464
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Recently went to WDW/Universal this past presidents week.
PSA #1 - Pandemic is over and parks are packed way beyond anything I've ever seen in 50 years ( year I have been many times and remember the alphabetical ticket books). As of now masks are still required on buses, monorails, skyliner but despite signs/announcements they were only enforced on buses. Difficult to enforce on monorails and skyliners tend to be broken down by family groups anyway.
TIP #1 - Never go to these parks presidents week which is most likely ( next to holiday time) highest traffic week. Unless you have HS kids (I did) whose academics matter, taking younger kids out of school another time of year will not affect their chance to get into a good college - but this is obvious information and shouldn't surprise anyone.
We split a week between the places and were also down for Princess Run weekend. Traveled with adults and teens.
TIP #2 -The G+, ILL$ is understandable in its basics but don't believe every thing posted by experts here or in video including ALL ears (Molly's videos are great but take info with a grain of Salt) or even what is posted on various Disney sites. Again I've been doing this for 50 years.
It is understandable that Disney is charging for a premium service (they charge for everything else) so no complaints there (they could have simply hiked the prices more - oh they just did or will based upon announcements). I had mastered the FP system and knew ways to get many passes, multiple times for many rides.. Most never made to effort but I hate waiting hours for a 3-4 minute ride. But that's gone. I really don't like G+ but some how were given it as part of our package (and $15/pp/d was not a huge expense over what we were already paying if if helped avoid lines - that is probably why many people use it and the system doesn't work. If it were a higher cost fewer would use it and those who choose to use it would get a better benefit.
Are G+ and ILL$ worth it?
This is a tough question to answer and is a very individual thing based upon many factors including when you are going (we went during peak), the people in your group ( we were adults and teens), your budget, where you are staying ( we stayed at Beach club) and your goals ( we wanted to do rides -and did not do shows which we had seen previously or were more geared to the little ones). Our feelings about it were generally negative and we only found it helpful at MK. We dedicated 1 day to each park (less for AK - also dedicated 1day in each Universal park)
ILL$ -Disney Has designated 2 rides in each park as "special high demand" rides not part of G+. Additional charges of $8-15/pp. Only used once per ride and on 2 per day. Yes on top of the gate price. So your options to ride them ( Remy, Frozen, Space, 7DMT, Rise of Resistance, Mickey/Minnie Railroad, Avatar, Everest) are pay the premium price or go standby.
PSA #2 - During this trip Everest was closed for extended maintenance and Space Mtn and Frozen were converted to G+ rides! Universal has similar special rides (Hagrid/Veliciraptor coaster) that are not part of their express pass system, which is much better than G+ allowing access to most rides any time and for additional $ can be unlimited if you want to ride the same ride many times)
Tip#3 - Depending upon your budget and sleep schedule wake up early and do these first thing (early bird gets worm and saves money)since there are only 5 now in 4 parks your only decision is to maybe pay for one in DHS (we did MMrailroad since it was cheaper and worth $7 each to save 2-3 hours of wait time). Alternatively find times in day early , late , mealtimes etc when the lines may be shorter (this is relative instead of 2 hour waits they may be 60-90min hr but not much less).
Tip#4 - If you can afford it stay on disney property( or universal property) and take advantage of extra hours/ morning or evening. They are priceless and so much can be done in that time. GET UP early. Even though additional hours are posted you really need to be there about 45-1 hour before that time...yes get your coffee and go. The lines to enter get long then and in some cases parks and rides open even earlier. One day when early hour at DHS was 8:30 for resort guests park opened at 7:55....and hundreds were there way before us but managed to be off RoR by 8:35! (great ride). On the same note one night during EPCOT extra hours managed to do Frozen, TestT, Spaceship earth, Sorin, and Mission space as almost walk ons (Test Tr did single rider) in the course of 75 minutes ( best hour of trip except there was no food available anywhere so we had to settle for the one beer stand in Norway and run between the attractions - good prep for the Princess Runs - Ha). Obviously something you cant do with small kids.
G+ Ughh!!!!!!
Personally hate this system and only found it moderately useful in MK during this visit ( as apposed to Express at Universal which was was well worth it). Our experience:
EPCOT - EPCOT has only 8 rides that will make you wait any significant times. If you go early you can easily do 2-3 before lines get long and spread the others out over the day.
TIP #5 - Do Remy first thing and spread the others over the day or use ILL$ if you can afford it on this ride. Use single rider for TestTrack. If you want to use G+ (personally we did not see a reason in this park even in peak times - definitely not in low attendance times) unless you were limited in time and maybe want to do EPCOT/AK - but G+ with its restrictions makes this difficult - another reason for not liking this system if you want to use it). Not sure if Remy also a nice attraction was open during extra hours - no more virtual cues!
AK - There are only 5 rides that will make you wait significant times.If you are spending the day in this Park come early and you can do 1-2 early ( we did Avator and Navi and stay through the other lines that can get long for Kilamanjaro, Dino and Everest (which was closed). If you can afford it do ILL$ for Avatar and standby for the rest - this would make it a wash with the ILL$ cost and the G+ cost.
MK - Here we found G+ to be helpful with a a big warning its use is limited.
TIP#6 - If you are using G+ you must be ready to use it at7A (resort guests) and (9A non resort guests or when ever park open that day. No learning the system last minute. Know exactly what you want and be prepared not to get it or not to get the times you want.
PSA #3 - G+ is in charge not you. Do not expect to get what you want when you want it even though you are paying extra for this service. Example: Decided to G+ PP (for crazy structural loading reasons this ride has terrible waits and G+ disappears relatively early). At 7A we saw G+ was available at 10:30A ( not sooner like you might expect). Pressed to reservation and after the spinning circle stopped several seconds later we were given 12:30 given automatically trigger the 2 hour rule (will explain later). So yes several hundred/thousand other people had the same idea and it was luck as to whose wifi internet was the quickest not you. This makes the service, G+, very frustrating!
We chose to use ILL$ on 7DMT as it was only $8/pp and came early to do other things (would never pay premium for Space - done it many times, even walk on during late hours - just not worth it as a coaster ( especially after doing Velociraptor (best coaster in both park if you are tall enough, followed by Hulk, RNR, Rip Rocket/Hagrid then BTMRR - family is past the kiddie coasters like barnstormer, Woody, Hippigriff, and even SDD. 7DMT has some theming which makes it interesting with the cars rocking).
PSA# 4 - Do not believe all you see on this site or videos etc beginning with the LEEWAY RULE or DOUBLE TAP RULE. In the LL returns there are 2 tap points (ticket, band etc). They are there to confirm that if you did get a G+ spot and you can enter. It has been said that you may enter your LL up to to 15 min before your reservation time or 5 min later or is it visa versa? In either case we were rejected from entry by cast members because we we not exactly within our designated window the tap point didnt turn green. Yes even three minutes before! (we did not test the late rule). So there was no LEEWAY RULE for us on any rides.
With respect to the DOULE TAP rule this was also a myth fin and DISney must have realized this concept was a mistake. Right now there are 2 tap points in the LL of each ride. The first at entry and the second closer to boarding. It was rumored ( and stated all over videos like ALLears) that when you tap your band to the second tap point. It opens the window for you to get another g+ reservation. This would explain why there are 2 tap points. But in our experience it meant nothing other than possibly a way to collect data on how long the LL wait was which is never posted anyway so not sure about that.
So here is our example from the PP ride we booked with G+ at 7A. We crossed our first PP tap point at 12:35p and then out second one at 12:37p (no line). And tried to book our third G+ ride. (Sorry forgot the 2 HOUR RULE - which states you cannot book another G+ until 2 hour after the last one or 2 hour after park opening. In our case we booked PP at 7 for 12:30 (it was 10:30A that we requested) so we we eligible for our next pass at 11a 4 hours after booking or 2 hrs after park opening. So we booked HM for 2pm our 11A opening for another pass). When we double tapped at PP expecting to open another window we were told by G+ we were not eligible until 1p for our next booking which happened all day.
Effectively the earliest we were ever allowed to book anything was every 2 hours no matter what the actual reservation times were. So 7A, 11A, 1p, 3p, 5p etc By 5 most reservation for more popular attractions were gone. So while G+ was helpful it was of limited use. DOUBLE TAPPING DID NOTHING AND DID NOT OPEN ANY NEW WINDOWS - though I guess had we not booked HM at 11 for 2p after double tapping we could have booked another ride - but why would we have waited until 12:30 for another G+ ride if we could have done it at 11A.
PSA #5 - G+ opening happen during the day and you might get something earlier later on if people drop their reservation. Yes an you might also win the lottery. Human nature says if you have the reservation you will keep it. It is very rare ( we tried checking every 15 minutes and sometimes more often - and never saw new openings. NEW OPENINGS FOR RIDES ARE RARE IF THEY EVER HAPPEN.
So I would say because MK has so many rides and G+ is distributes over many of them and everyone has their favorite the # of G+ passes are greater or there is more chance for you to get the rides you want ( maybe not at the preferred time) that G+ has some benefit in MK with limitations.
DHS
Here is where things go bad and things are crazy making G+ not worth it in our experience. Here we chose to ILL$ Mickey/Minnie since it was only $8 each more and Went to RoR first thing. We chose to G+ ToT and got an 11:15 reservation, but if you wand SDD you must G+ this (we skipped). SDD G+ was gone in minutes -so your only chance to do this was very early or stand on line for up to 3hrs ( yes 3 hours for a several minute ride). We finished RoR and several other rides over the next few hours when our 11 AM window for getting another G+ ride opened....but guess what.....Nothing was available for any of the major rides by 11:05 when everyone else's 11A window also opened (gone for the day RoR and M/M railroad by purchase, ToT, RRC, SDD (gone in first few min by 7:05,), Mil Falcon, and TSM....yes for the entire day and we refreshed every 15 min and sometimes more frequently......our experience We paid G+ price to get one ride (or effectively paid a ILL$ for ToT). G+ was not worth it in DHS because the demand is so high and supply is limited. Was paying $15/pp that day worth saving the 2hrs of line time on ToT?
Summary:
1- Do not go in peak season (even if its the only time your kids are off except if they are HS kids).
2- If you can afford it stay on Disney property to get early hours do it; if you can really afford it stay premium and do extra evening do it.
3- Rope drop Rope drop meaning get to the parks 45-1 hour before the expected opening or early opening.
4- ILL$ is a personal decision based upon finances. With only 5 attractions during our stay it was worth it in DHS but not the other parks if you do those attractions first.
5- G+ may be helpful in MK but be flexible as you will not always get what you want or get what you think you've gotten.
6- Be mindful of what you see or read ( even on this site and other respected sites like Allears.net). In our experience there was no leeway to G+ reservations, Double tapping did nothing, and expect long/very long lines.
7 - For us Frozen and Space mountain were moved to G+ and ILL$ category. Stay alert. Things change every day.
8- Pandemic is over is Disney and fill up every available space has replaced social distance (saw a sign that was still left over at the treehouse that said keep 6 feet apart - luck if people can keep 6 inches aprt pabed upn out experience.
PSA #1 - Pandemic is over and parks are packed way beyond anything I've ever seen in 50 years ( year I have been many times and remember the alphabetical ticket books). As of now masks are still required on buses, monorails, skyliner but despite signs/announcements they were only enforced on buses. Difficult to enforce on monorails and skyliners tend to be broken down by family groups anyway.
TIP #1 - Never go to these parks presidents week which is most likely ( next to holiday time) highest traffic week. Unless you have HS kids (I did) whose academics matter, taking younger kids out of school another time of year will not affect their chance to get into a good college - but this is obvious information and shouldn't surprise anyone.
We split a week between the places and were also down for Princess Run weekend. Traveled with adults and teens.
TIP #2 -The G+, ILL$ is understandable in its basics but don't believe every thing posted by experts here or in video including ALL ears (Molly's videos are great but take info with a grain of Salt) or even what is posted on various Disney sites. Again I've been doing this for 50 years.
It is understandable that Disney is charging for a premium service (they charge for everything else) so no complaints there (they could have simply hiked the prices more - oh they just did or will based upon announcements). I had mastered the FP system and knew ways to get many passes, multiple times for many rides.. Most never made to effort but I hate waiting hours for a 3-4 minute ride. But that's gone. I really don't like G+ but some how were given it as part of our package (and $15/pp/d was not a huge expense over what we were already paying if if helped avoid lines - that is probably why many people use it and the system doesn't work. If it were a higher cost fewer would use it and those who choose to use it would get a better benefit.
Are G+ and ILL$ worth it?
This is a tough question to answer and is a very individual thing based upon many factors including when you are going (we went during peak), the people in your group ( we were adults and teens), your budget, where you are staying ( we stayed at Beach club) and your goals ( we wanted to do rides -and did not do shows which we had seen previously or were more geared to the little ones). Our feelings about it were generally negative and we only found it helpful at MK. We dedicated 1 day to each park (less for AK - also dedicated 1day in each Universal park)
ILL$ -Disney Has designated 2 rides in each park as "special high demand" rides not part of G+. Additional charges of $8-15/pp. Only used once per ride and on 2 per day. Yes on top of the gate price. So your options to ride them ( Remy, Frozen, Space, 7DMT, Rise of Resistance, Mickey/Minnie Railroad, Avatar, Everest) are pay the premium price or go standby.
PSA #2 - During this trip Everest was closed for extended maintenance and Space Mtn and Frozen were converted to G+ rides! Universal has similar special rides (Hagrid/Veliciraptor coaster) that are not part of their express pass system, which is much better than G+ allowing access to most rides any time and for additional $ can be unlimited if you want to ride the same ride many times)
Tip#3 - Depending upon your budget and sleep schedule wake up early and do these first thing (early bird gets worm and saves money)since there are only 5 now in 4 parks your only decision is to maybe pay for one in DHS (we did MMrailroad since it was cheaper and worth $7 each to save 2-3 hours of wait time). Alternatively find times in day early , late , mealtimes etc when the lines may be shorter (this is relative instead of 2 hour waits they may be 60-90min hr but not much less).
Tip#4 - If you can afford it stay on disney property( or universal property) and take advantage of extra hours/ morning or evening. They are priceless and so much can be done in that time. GET UP early. Even though additional hours are posted you really need to be there about 45-1 hour before that time...yes get your coffee and go. The lines to enter get long then and in some cases parks and rides open even earlier. One day when early hour at DHS was 8:30 for resort guests park opened at 7:55....and hundreds were there way before us but managed to be off RoR by 8:35! (great ride). On the same note one night during EPCOT extra hours managed to do Frozen, TestT, Spaceship earth, Sorin, and Mission space as almost walk ons (Test Tr did single rider) in the course of 75 minutes ( best hour of trip except there was no food available anywhere so we had to settle for the one beer stand in Norway and run between the attractions - good prep for the Princess Runs - Ha). Obviously something you cant do with small kids.
G+ Ughh!!!!!!
Personally hate this system and only found it moderately useful in MK during this visit ( as apposed to Express at Universal which was was well worth it). Our experience:
EPCOT - EPCOT has only 8 rides that will make you wait any significant times. If you go early you can easily do 2-3 before lines get long and spread the others out over the day.
TIP #5 - Do Remy first thing and spread the others over the day or use ILL$ if you can afford it on this ride. Use single rider for TestTrack. If you want to use G+ (personally we did not see a reason in this park even in peak times - definitely not in low attendance times) unless you were limited in time and maybe want to do EPCOT/AK - but G+ with its restrictions makes this difficult - another reason for not liking this system if you want to use it). Not sure if Remy also a nice attraction was open during extra hours - no more virtual cues!
AK - There are only 5 rides that will make you wait significant times.If you are spending the day in this Park come early and you can do 1-2 early ( we did Avator and Navi and stay through the other lines that can get long for Kilamanjaro, Dino and Everest (which was closed). If you can afford it do ILL$ for Avatar and standby for the rest - this would make it a wash with the ILL$ cost and the G+ cost.
MK - Here we found G+ to be helpful with a a big warning its use is limited.
TIP#6 - If you are using G+ you must be ready to use it at7A (resort guests) and (9A non resort guests or when ever park open that day. No learning the system last minute. Know exactly what you want and be prepared not to get it or not to get the times you want.
PSA #3 - G+ is in charge not you. Do not expect to get what you want when you want it even though you are paying extra for this service. Example: Decided to G+ PP (for crazy structural loading reasons this ride has terrible waits and G+ disappears relatively early). At 7A we saw G+ was available at 10:30A ( not sooner like you might expect). Pressed to reservation and after the spinning circle stopped several seconds later we were given 12:30 given automatically trigger the 2 hour rule (will explain later). So yes several hundred/thousand other people had the same idea and it was luck as to whose wifi internet was the quickest not you. This makes the service, G+, very frustrating!
We chose to use ILL$ on 7DMT as it was only $8/pp and came early to do other things (would never pay premium for Space - done it many times, even walk on during late hours - just not worth it as a coaster ( especially after doing Velociraptor (best coaster in both park if you are tall enough, followed by Hulk, RNR, Rip Rocket/Hagrid then BTMRR - family is past the kiddie coasters like barnstormer, Woody, Hippigriff, and even SDD. 7DMT has some theming which makes it interesting with the cars rocking).
PSA# 4 - Do not believe all you see on this site or videos etc beginning with the LEEWAY RULE or DOUBLE TAP RULE. In the LL returns there are 2 tap points (ticket, band etc). They are there to confirm that if you did get a G+ spot and you can enter. It has been said that you may enter your LL up to to 15 min before your reservation time or 5 min later or is it visa versa? In either case we were rejected from entry by cast members because we we not exactly within our designated window the tap point didnt turn green. Yes even three minutes before! (we did not test the late rule). So there was no LEEWAY RULE for us on any rides.
With respect to the DOULE TAP rule this was also a myth fin and DISney must have realized this concept was a mistake. Right now there are 2 tap points in the LL of each ride. The first at entry and the second closer to boarding. It was rumored ( and stated all over videos like ALLears) that when you tap your band to the second tap point. It opens the window for you to get another g+ reservation. This would explain why there are 2 tap points. But in our experience it meant nothing other than possibly a way to collect data on how long the LL wait was which is never posted anyway so not sure about that.
So here is our example from the PP ride we booked with G+ at 7A. We crossed our first PP tap point at 12:35p and then out second one at 12:37p (no line). And tried to book our third G+ ride. (Sorry forgot the 2 HOUR RULE - which states you cannot book another G+ until 2 hour after the last one or 2 hour after park opening. In our case we booked PP at 7 for 12:30 (it was 10:30A that we requested) so we we eligible for our next pass at 11a 4 hours after booking or 2 hrs after park opening. So we booked HM for 2pm our 11A opening for another pass). When we double tapped at PP expecting to open another window we were told by G+ we were not eligible until 1p for our next booking which happened all day.
Effectively the earliest we were ever allowed to book anything was every 2 hours no matter what the actual reservation times were. So 7A, 11A, 1p, 3p, 5p etc By 5 most reservation for more popular attractions were gone. So while G+ was helpful it was of limited use. DOUBLE TAPPING DID NOTHING AND DID NOT OPEN ANY NEW WINDOWS - though I guess had we not booked HM at 11 for 2p after double tapping we could have booked another ride - but why would we have waited until 12:30 for another G+ ride if we could have done it at 11A.
PSA #5 - G+ opening happen during the day and you might get something earlier later on if people drop their reservation. Yes an you might also win the lottery. Human nature says if you have the reservation you will keep it. It is very rare ( we tried checking every 15 minutes and sometimes more often - and never saw new openings. NEW OPENINGS FOR RIDES ARE RARE IF THEY EVER HAPPEN.
So I would say because MK has so many rides and G+ is distributes over many of them and everyone has their favorite the # of G+ passes are greater or there is more chance for you to get the rides you want ( maybe not at the preferred time) that G+ has some benefit in MK with limitations.
DHS
Here is where things go bad and things are crazy making G+ not worth it in our experience. Here we chose to ILL$ Mickey/Minnie since it was only $8 each more and Went to RoR first thing. We chose to G+ ToT and got an 11:15 reservation, but if you wand SDD you must G+ this (we skipped). SDD G+ was gone in minutes -so your only chance to do this was very early or stand on line for up to 3hrs ( yes 3 hours for a several minute ride). We finished RoR and several other rides over the next few hours when our 11 AM window for getting another G+ ride opened....but guess what.....Nothing was available for any of the major rides by 11:05 when everyone else's 11A window also opened (gone for the day RoR and M/M railroad by purchase, ToT, RRC, SDD (gone in first few min by 7:05,), Mil Falcon, and TSM....yes for the entire day and we refreshed every 15 min and sometimes more frequently......our experience We paid G+ price to get one ride (or effectively paid a ILL$ for ToT). G+ was not worth it in DHS because the demand is so high and supply is limited. Was paying $15/pp that day worth saving the 2hrs of line time on ToT?
Summary:
1- Do not go in peak season (even if its the only time your kids are off except if they are HS kids).
2- If you can afford it stay on Disney property to get early hours do it; if you can really afford it stay premium and do extra evening do it.
3- Rope drop Rope drop meaning get to the parks 45-1 hour before the expected opening or early opening.
4- ILL$ is a personal decision based upon finances. With only 5 attractions during our stay it was worth it in DHS but not the other parks if you do those attractions first.
5- G+ may be helpful in MK but be flexible as you will not always get what you want or get what you think you've gotten.
6- Be mindful of what you see or read ( even on this site and other respected sites like Allears.net). In our experience there was no leeway to G+ reservations, Double tapping did nothing, and expect long/very long lines.
7 - For us Frozen and Space mountain were moved to G+ and ILL$ category. Stay alert. Things change every day.
8- Pandemic is over is Disney and fill up every available space has replaced social distance (saw a sign that was still left over at the treehouse that said keep 6 feet apart - luck if people can keep 6 inches aprt pabed upn out experience.
gregskellington
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I couldn't decipher some of this but tapping into a LL absolutely frees you up to get another before your two hour window. But it's one or the other now. Two hour window OR tapping into a LL frees you up for another.
Briefly there was a glitch that allowed you to get two selections based on that but it's no longer true.
Briefly there was a glitch that allowed you to get two selections based on that but it's no longer true.
ENJDisneyFan
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I’m not sure what you mean by this?
gzh6464
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We were turned away from rides and told to come back even 5 min before our window opened. Mickey didnt turn green and the castmenber said you need to wait and come back in a few minutes
gzh6464
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Not our experience at all.
At 7Am we got G+ for PP for 12:30 ( we had thought we got 10:30 but were given 12:30 in those 3-4 seconds of the system confirming the reservation.
At 11 AM we got another G+ reservation for HM at 2p
At 12:35 we completed the second tap at PP and tried to open another G+ reservation and were given the message you are not available for another pass until 1p
At 1p we got another pass for POC at 3;45p
At 2;10 we completed another second tap at HM and were told we were not eligible until 3P for another G+ ....etc.
Double tapping Absolutely did nothing to free you up before the 2 hour window!!!!
I thought it was 2 hours from your most recently scheduled LL.
ENJDisneyFan
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That's definitely not how it's supposed to work. Frustrating for sure.
gregskellington
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Yes, that's exactly what I said. It worked as expected for you, then. Double tapping was a bug that was quickly fixed.
MikeandReneePlus5
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It is. That was the OP's misunderstanding.
gzh6464
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The freeing up of LL double tapping might work if you havnt activated a second pass with the 2 hr rule eg:
Book something at 7Am
Get a pass that allows entry at 9:30
Complete 9:30 double tap at 9:35 and your window for a new one opens..... ( and not 11AM)
but if this was the case we should have been able to open another window at 12:35 after we double tapped. They system specifically told us we were not eligible until 1p ( presumeable because we got a G+ pass at 11A when our first window for a pass opened.)
Book something at 7Am
Get a pass that allows entry at 9:30
Complete 9:30 double tap at 9:35 and your window for a new one opens..... ( and not 11AM)
but if this was the case we should have been able to open another window at 12:35 after we double tapped. They system specifically told us we were not eligible until 1p ( presumeable because we got a G+ pass at 11A when our first window for a pass opened.)
You might be remembering the stacking that was happening when genie+ first came out. They closed that loop hole. It now defaults to your most recently booked LL.
gzh6464
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Not our experience at all.
At 7Am we got G+ for PP for 12:30 ( we had thought we got 10:30 but were given 12:30 in those 3-4 seconds of the system confirming the reservation.
At 11 AM we got another G+ reservation for HM at 2p
At 12:35 we completed the second tap at PP and tried to open another G+ reservation and were given the message you are not available for another pass until 1p
At 1p we got another pass for POC at 3;45p
At 2;10 we completed another second tap at HM and were told we were not eligible until 3P for another G+ ....etc.
Double tapping Absolutely did nothing to free you up before the 2 hour window!!!!
SO basically if you can get a new pass every 2hrs ( or 4 hrs in the AM from a 7 Am booking) what is the purpose of double tapping? What is it freeing you up to do?
If a ride has 2 checkpoints (double tap) you can’t make a second genie+ until the second tap point.
gzh6464
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my point is I couldnt get another pass even after the second check point until 2 hours had passed since my last booking.
gregskellington
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It's 2 hours after your most recent booking, or, tapping into your most recently made booking. That's it. Double tapping as you've described it was a bug.
FencerGirl
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The second tap point helps prevent people from ducking into the the LL line after the initial tap point.
cutigerlady
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I was there the same time as you and agree with what you said. I also had issues with selecting another G+ ride after tapping into my ride. I had read tons of information before our trip and thought I understood how it worked. We were able to tap in 5 minutes before the return time and it turned the Mickey green. From what I understand NOW is that once you use the last G+, then you can select another. So if your first was at 12:35 and at 11:00 you picked one for 12:55, then after you tap in for the 12:55, you can make another selection and get in front of everyone trying at 1:00. By the time I figured this out, we were done with our park days, so I didn't get to try it out myself. We could never find options with near time return times, everything was for the late evening. We ended up with stacked G+ all overlapping for the late evening. It didn't seem to limit the number of overlapping selections.
Also figured out that if you are on a ride right at 11:00, then you get behind everyone the rest of the day and by 3:00 you are just out of luck! I overheard so many conversations waiting in line of confused people on how the system works and frustration on wasting money to get nothing. The lines were always so long at the Guest Experience tent that I never went to complain myself because I didn't want to waste time from my vacation.
For those of you watching and testing your plans at home, let me warn you that nothing is guaranteed until you get through the entire reservation process. I had ILL+ times change after the payment page, or worse say it was no longer available. Many, many times I clicked on a G+ and then it was no longer available. I thought my party of 2 would be easy to get reservations for, I can't imagine how difficult it is for a large group!
Also figured out that if you are on a ride right at 11:00, then you get behind everyone the rest of the day and by 3:00 you are just out of luck! I overheard so many conversations waiting in line of confused people on how the system works and frustration on wasting money to get nothing. The lines were always so long at the Guest Experience tent that I never went to complain myself because I didn't want to waste time from my vacation.
For those of you watching and testing your plans at home, let me warn you that nothing is guaranteed until you get through the entire reservation process. I had ILL+ times change after the payment page, or worse say it was no longer available. Many, many times I clicked on a G+ and then it was no longer available. I thought my party of 2 would be easy to get reservations for, I can't imagine how difficult it is for a large group!
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