I just got back from 8 days at WDW. It was 4 days with just me and my DH and then 4 days with my DD21 who just graduated from college. (As an aside, the price of that 4-day PH almost killed me!). We stayed at AKV for 1 night, RIV for 2 nights and BWV for 6 nights.
TRANSPORTATION:
We made it on the first or second bus every morning except our last day when we slept in. I would have changed our MK day to Epcot that day but there were no available park reservations to change to so we just had a late morning arrival at MK instead. I used a
scooter and only had to wait for a second bus twice, once to the park and once on the way home. I will arrange Epcot days into my October schedule even if it still opens late because I found that I needed a couple of days where we were not running for the bus at 6:40 in the morning for AK and MK or 7:40 in the morning for DHS. I found that the
MDE app was good for bus arrivals for AK and RIV, but didn't work for BWV. It never showed when the first bus was supposed to arrive. We arrived at the bus stop at BWV to go to MK, only to see an AK bus loading when there was no notice on the app of when the bus was supposed to come. There was also no notice at the bus stop when the first bus was supposed to arrive until it was there. The first bus usually came between 45 minutes and 55 minutes after the hour and got us to the park in time for rope drop. On our day at AK with my DD21 it didn't arrive until AFTER 7:00 and dropped us off at 7:30ish. I asked the bus driver if he was the first bus of the day (we were at the stop at 6:45) and he said that he thought that he was because there was another AK bus right behind him so he thought that was supposed to be the first one and he was late. Gee, thanks a lot late bus driver! Of course, we were late to FOP and our wait was considerably longer since we got there 20-30 minutes after unofficial opening. It messed everything up and we were not off FOP until after 8:00 am. We ended up skipping Navi in favor of getting in line for the safari which started running at 8:00 and we still needed to wait for about 30 minutes.
I also think that some people were coming over from the Swolphin to ride the BWV bus, especially to the MK. There were significantly more people waiting for the bus at BWV than there was at RIV. I don't know off the top of my head how many villas are at BWV v/s RIV but I would think the number is pretty close.
We walked/rolled to DHS in the morning (we were at Boardwalk both days). There were NO BOATS early enough to get us to DHS for rope drop. We left BWV around 7:40 and got there by 8:00 and the gates had not opened yet both times. Hint, keep to the right if the lines are the same length because the left line wraps around security and joins the line for people who parked. I don't know about the exact timing for the Skyliner. It was running when we arrived but we didn't take it from RIV to DHS, only home from park hopping to DHS and Epcot.
WAIT TIMES:
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NO FASTPASSES!!!!
I can't tell you how much I enjoy not playing the FP game. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed not having to plan my entire day 60 days in advance. I can't tell you how much I enjoy not waiting in horrible stand-by lines for rides and watching FP people pass us by. Many CMs enjoyed no FPs as well. I had a number of them say that they really liked how the line moved without FPs. Lines were short or moderate except for the super-duper headliner for each park (FOP, Slinky, Mine Train, Test Track). I waited around 25-30 minutes for most rides. I purchased the Lines app via a Touring Plans membership on my laptop and the app came with it. I've used their free dining reservation finder more than once so I didn't mind paying for the membership and I was able to use a discount code on the laptop but I would have had to pay full price through the Apple app store. I found the Lines app to be more accurate than the official wait times on the MDE app.
In MK lines were short-ish for everything except Mine Train, Jungle Cruise, Pirates and Splash Mountain. The later 3 had longer lines because they were lot loading full boats. Everything else, including Space Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain, were short to moderate. Space Mountain was loading one party per car, so when we went without our DD we were placed in the front car with no one in the 3rd seat. Mine Train was long the whole day, so it's still best to rope drop it and do it right away. Everything else fluctuated and even Peter Pan was only 25 minutes at times during the day! That, my friends, is the power of capped crowds and no FPs.
In DHS lines were short-ish for everything except Slinky. Tower of Terror, Rock and Roll, Toy Story Mania, Mickey's Railway and Smugglers Run also fluctuated during the day. All were less than 30 minutes on and off throughout the day.
In AK, FOP was long all day. The rest were 20-40 minutes, including Everest. That was another example of no FP, I never saw Everest go above 30 minutes. Kali tended to get longer in the hot afternoon, but nothing like it did when FPs were in play. I think we waited about 35 minutes for Kali at 1:30 before we left for the day.
At Epcot, Test Track was long for most of the day. We did it at rope drop and it didn't start running until about 10:45. The rest of the rides, including Frozen and Soarin' fluctuated. We rode both of them after park hopping and waited about 30 minutes for each. The line for the Grand Fiesta Tour was really long one afternoon. I have no idea why, except perhaps because of distancing in the boat.
Here's my take on no FPs now. I think that we stood in line much less than if there were FPs. FPs cut your wait time down to about 10-15 minutes, while doubling the stand-by line. If FPs were in play, I would maybe cut 10-15 minutes off of waiting for 3-4 rides BUT I would have to wait 20-50 minutes more on EVERYTHING ELSE. Most days we knocked off 5-6 rides and lunch before we took our afternoon break. I don't think would get as much done with FPs in play. Once they increase crowd levels closer to maximum, then they will probably have to bring back FPs but for right now, running at full 50% capacity, they are not necessary. Do either rope drop or close a park to get your shortest waits.
RESTAURANTS:
As everyone has said, mobile ordering rocks. Scheduling your lunch break and meal a couple hours ahead of time was really great. We used it everywhere we could except for the Sunshine Tree Terrace because I wanted a pineapple float with pineapple/coconut swirl and that wasn't on the online menu. I had to order it in person. I really liked how it spread out the lunch crowd and we have zero problems finding a table. You couldn't enter the restaurant without a mobile order return so it cut back on table squatters. Once you're called to the pick up window your food is already ready so people who grab a table are only waiting for a minute or two instead of 20-30 minutes for the food runner. It really moves things along. HINT: you can't charge your meal to your MB and the app does not save your gift card number to use the next time. I entered my gift card number into a page on my Notes app. I would copy it from the Notes app and then add it as a new gift card each time and paste in the number.
We ate at three TS restaurants: Topolino's Terrace, California Grill and Trattoria al Forno. I have a mixed report on Topolino's Terrace. I really liked the apps, the Ricotta was divine and the escargot were so delicious and unique, basically en croute. The bread service was cute with the little bread sticks, but one of them for two people was not enough. Plus, the butter was excessively salty. The meal really stumbled on the main course. I had the Rigatoni and my DH had the Lobster Fettuccine. My rigatoni was so salty! I don't know if they over seasoned it because there are no salt and pepper on the table, but it was seriously inedible. And I LOVE salt so much my DH calls me a "salt monster" from that old Star Trek episode. It's really gotta be salty if a salt monster like me thinks it's salty. My DH's fettuccine had a strange sauce on it and the presentation was lacking. It had a sauce americaine which was OK, but the squid ink tuile leached out some of the briny, metallic squid ink taste. It overpowered what would normally be a nice sauce. We won't be back anytime soon.
California Grill was excellent, as always. They have gotten rid of the vegetarian sampler menu where my DD could pick 4 items that were apps or sides for her meal. I have no idea why they did it because I think all the food is still being offered. Of course, we ended up paying more ordering her soup, sushi and goat cheese ravioli separately. So, maybe that's the reason
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We ordered from Trattoria al Forno as a to-go order before we headed into Epcot for pick up at 9:50 pm. We have the bruchetta, lasagna and the gnocchi. The bruchetta was soggy but the lasagna was good and my DD loved the gnocchi. I was disappointed that they didn't throw in a bread service that we would normally get at an Italian restaurant. Many local restaurants include a few pieces of bread and some butter when I order a meal to go.
PANDEMIC PROCEEDURES AND COMPLIANCE:
Social distancing is non-existent. I had read that they were reducing the markers on the ground to 3 feet, but all the markers that I saw were still at 6 feet. Everyone ignored them and crowded up against everyone else. We tried to stop at the markers but we had others breathing (literally) down our necks behind us much of the time. It was originally shocking to see so many people without masks as my county has had enforced rules for masks for over a year. I got over that pretty quick. I also got over the anxiety of soooo many people crowded into one place with and without masks. We are all vaccinated so I did not feel totally unsafe but I still plan on getting a Covid test in a couple of days since I had been in close proximity with so many people.
I would not have gone to WDW with children under 12 because of the sheer mass of humanity who were not wearing their masks outside. I would say about 90% of the people outside didn't have masks on (they didn't need to) and I would say about 90-95% of the people in lines, inside or on rides had their masks on properly. There was always a small percentage, 5-10% of the people, who had their noses out, masks on their chins, masks hanging off their ear or masks in their pockets while the rest of us had them on as required. The PA announcements did nothing to change the behavior, only direct requests from CMs made any difference and some pulled the masks off as soon as they were out of view of the CMs. I bought these mask lanyards:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08H85M69L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and they were great! I'm so happy I read here about mask lanyards. They really helped a lot to keep the mask handy for the constant on and off of masks. My DD21 said she didn't want to use one and then within her first hour in the park she attached one, LOL.
Some rides still has plastic separators (like Frozen and Jungle Cruise) but most did not. I really liked the plastic separators in line. It was bad enough to have someone close behind me, but I may have lost it if I was surrounded by people on all sides in close proximity. Some rides, like Pirates and Splash were leaving an empty row between parties. Buses were still having seat pods assigned by the driver. I read that some of the larger buses allowed standees, but not the ones to/from BWV. The Friendship boats did not allow groups to mix in rows inside, only one group/family per row. There were signs outside of elevators that said "one group or 4 single people". When there were only 2 of us and 2 other people were waiting, we invited them to ride with us. Most people politely waited. One dad got really mad when another family wouldn't allow his family to barge on the elevator with them and started yelling at the other family.
In all, I'm glad I went. I've heard that it was less busy earlier but my fears that it would be really, really busy were mostly unfounded. I am glad that they dropped the mask requirement for outside. I don't know how all of you did it last summer! 90-degrees plus masks = miserable guests. I feel for the poor CMs. They must be suffocating
. We have another trip planned for September/October. It will be even busier so I'll wait until August to make my decision. I won't go unless I can buy an AP. I may not go if WDW lifts all crowd limits because I'm sure it's going to be busy, but I don't think I can take "crazy" like NYE.
Sorry this was so long! Please feel free to ask any questions
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