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Monkeydawn, that is a fascinating article! Where did you find it?
Hubby and I are sitting here discussing cancelling. Our emails at work today were non-stop how to handle COVID-19 (we are medical) exposures, patients and precautions. Seriously thinking about cancelling Northern Europe and road tripping to the mountains... a year of planning and flights gone... but that article summarizes in a scary way how it can affect healthy people.
that article gives you no information on whether any of the 82 patients studied were "healthy people".
We know nothing about their pre-existing conditions.
In fact, given that it is a China based study, we can say that many of the patients were most likely heavy smokers and in any case, were living in an area of very high air pollution. A level of air pollution that does not exist anywhere in the US, with the resultant lung damage over time that it causes.
Bottom line, you should not draw conclusions about how covid19 affects "healthy people" from that article.
I'm 55 with asthma, so I guess that makes me one of those middle aged with co morbidities? 1-2% doesn't sound like much, but I've bought lottery tickets with much, much lower chances, and somewhere deep down I must think there is a chance I'm going to win that lottery... But if only 15% or so of US population were to get this virus (about what happened on the Diamond Princess), wouldn't the hospitals be overwhelmed?
yes, that's the problem - there is the potential for the health care system to be overwhelmed by the number of critical cases.
that's where hard decisions have to be made.
That you are near a case doesn't mean you will also get it. There have been cases where the husband did get the virus but the partner and children did not.
And as for proximity my country is so small, every case is near me! One is 15 Miles, the other 70 Miles. The first one is at home and the results for her family will come in today. The daycare center of her younger child will close as the mother had visited recently. For the other case, they have localized the people who have been in close contact with the man, and they are monitored.
Our CDC doesn't worry about an outbreak as in Italy, because better preparation and they know patient 0.
where do you live?
i live in Israel, where they've also been trying to track each case that occurs (all returning travelers so far).
So far they have the diamond princess people in quarantine, including a few of them who tested positive.
And there's a man who returned from Italy at the beginning of the week and showed symptoms 4 days later.
In his case, they've tracked his movements during those 4 days and contacted everyone who was in contact with him. All who had been in contact with him were told to go into 14 day home quarantine.
Actually, there was the case of the 9 korean tourists who were diagnosed when they returned to korea.
Their travels here were completely tracked, and security cameras checked. Anyone who had been within a certain distance for a specified length of time was instructed to quarantine at home for 14 days. And they repeatedly announced over the news, multiple times throughout the day, every place that group had been to and instructed anyone who had been in contact with that group to go into home quarantine for 14 days.
I think there are just 3 or 4 confirmed cases here (still only travelers at this point). All of them are hospitalized in a special isolated installation that is on the property of the leading hospital in the country, but 2 kilometers away from any building. And with extreme quarantine conditions inside the facility.
I should add that the health ministry here now requires all travelers who return from a specified list of countries to stay in home quarantine for 14 days.
Italy was added to the list earlier this week.
The current list is china, hong kong, macau, singapore, thailand, south korea, japan, italy. Anyone returning from any of those countries must go into home quarantine for 14 days.
and one more thing, El Al, the national airline announced they're firing 1000 workers. They've had to discontinue flights and planes are now sitting idle. El Al has multiple non-stop flights each day to beijing, shanghai and hong kong. Having to discontinue all those flights hit the airline hard. Plus the reduction in travel to europe hasn't helped.
I just checked and they've also cancelled all flights to Italy and Thailand and have delayed the start of the new non-stop route to tokyo.
So that's a lot of discontinued routes. There was a picture the other day of a row of 787 Dreamliners parked idle at the airport. So sad.
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