Disney to cancel FPs if room is cancelled

[PolyRob]

Good luck - and what a deal!!!

Where and when??!! That's the lowest rate I've even seen, by like half!

From reading posts on another thread, my understanding is that it’s only $169 more to stay CL than non CL for his 4 nights. I agree, a CL rate of $169 a night would be amazing, and probably hasn’t been seen for 20+ years .

OH yes, $169 additional compared to my original BC room reservation. Let me clarify that in my original post! Sorry for the confusion! It came to about 37% off based off rack rate. Sorry for the confusion!

 

[jbb4me]

OH yes, $169 additional compared to my original BC room reservation. Let me clarify that in my original post! Sorry for the confusion! It came to about 37% off based off rack rate. Sorry for the confusion!

Oh my goodness, I had a minor heart attack, thinking I've been doing it wrong all along! LOL!!! Still a great deal for an upgrade!! Enjoy!

 

[anomamatt]

So, a question for the FP Strategists. Is the overlapping a split stay as of right now working?

Yes.

 

[daniellek51985]

Yes.

What does overlapping a split stay mean for FP? I’m doing my first split stay and need to figure out how to do my FP!

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

What does overlapping a split stay mean for FP? I’m doing my first split stay and need to figure out how to do my FP!

Making a third reservation that covers both parts of the split stay

Split stay: Apr 1-4 at BC, Apr 4-8 at YC
Make a reservation for Apr 1-8 at All Stars

Now your 60 window will open for all 8 days at once.

The assumption is that when you eventually cancel the 8 day (in my example) reservation, the FPs won’t be canceled because you have resort stays for each of those days.

 

[Kris10karma]

Making a third reservation that covers both parts of the split stay

Split stay: Apr 1-4 at BC, Apr 4-8 at YC
Make a reservation for Apr 1-8 at All Stars

Now your 60 window will open for all 8 days at once.

The assumption is that when you eventually cancel the 8 day (in my example) reservation, the FPs won’t be canceled because you have resort stays for each of those days.

If you have to do all that, what's to stop people from booking March 28-April 8 to get a few days advance on the window?

 

[guerns17]

If you have to do all that, what's to stop people from booking March 28-April 8 to get a few days advance on the window?

Because now you need a resort reservation linked to every day you have a fastpass. So when you would cancel the overlapping reservation those fastpasses that aren’t tied to the split stay would be gone.

 

[anomamatt]

The assumption is that when you eventually cancel the 8 day (in my example) reservation, the FPs won’t be canceled because you have resort stays for each of those days.

Yes. This assumption is accurate as of earlier this week.

 

[anomamatt]

If you have to do all that, what's to stop people from booking March 28-April 8 to get a few days advance on the window?

As of this week, nothing prevents this. Which has been my point throughout this thread, no ‘strategies’ have been precented by the changes.

Because now you need a resort reservation linked to every day you have a fastpass. So when you would cancel the overlapping reservation those fastpasses that aren’t tied to the split stay would be gone.

If you have overlapping reservations and drop the one that opened the window )the EOWO), then the FP are still “protected” but the “real” resort reservation. But yes, you cannot now have FP >30 days out without a reservation that doesn’t cover all FP days.

 

[cel_disney]

As of this week, nothing prevents this. Which has been my point throughout this thread, no ‘strategies’ have been precented by the changes.



If you have overlapping reservations and drop the one that opened the window )the EOWO), then the FP are still “protected” but the “real” resort reservation. But yes, you cannot now have FP >30 days out without a reservation that doesn’t cover all FP days.

This last part is not exactly true. They are not cancelling FP if you cancel your room in the 30-60 window. The don’t send an email that they are going to do it and they don’t actually cancel them either...BUT - at this point you can not modify them.

I had a legit first half split stay with FP planned for April 8-11 that I cancelled. My FP from april 9th are still there - but I cannot change them.

I am going to see what happens when they are in the 30 day window to see if they are still legit..

 

[Kris10karma]

Because now you need a resort reservation linked to every day you have a fastpass. So when you would cancel the overlapping reservation those fastpasses that aren’t tied to the split stay would be gone.

But you wouldnt have fp booked for the first several days because you arent really going to be there. Ultimately you'd only book for the actual days of your vacation

 

[anomamatt]

But you wouldnt have fp booked for the first several days because you arent really going to be there. Ultimately you'd only book for the actual days of your vacation

That is correct. You can just still book them early.

 

[anomamatt]

This last part is not exactly true. They are not cancelling FP if you cancel your room in the 30-60 window. The don’t send an email that they are going to do it and they don’t actually cancel them either...BUT - at this point you can not modify them.

I had a legit first half split stay with FP planned for April 8-11 that I cancelled. My FP from april 9th are still there - but I cannot change them.

I am going to see what happens when they are in the 30 day window to see if they are still legit..

I think we are talking about different things.

FYI. Inside 30 days the FPs in your situation can be modified at that point.

 

[guerns17]

But you wouldnt have fp booked for the first several days because you arent really going to be there. Ultimately you'd only book for the actual days of your vacation

Ohh I see. So it’s still giving you a leg up on everyone else. So this is still allowed?

 

[anomamatt]

Ohh I see. So it’s still giving you a leg up on everyone else. So this is still allowed?

Yep.

 

[anomamatt]

If you have to do all that, what's to stop people from booking March 28-April 8 to get a few days advance on the window?

And really though, why not go for a 14-day early EOWO... I have heard that booking FPs at 74-days out is quite a relaxing thing of beauty.

 

[guerns17]

And really though, why not go for a 14-day early EOWO... I have heard that booking FPs at 74-days out is quite a relaxing thing of beauty.

If I did this my overlapping trip would have to be 24 days long lol!!

 

[otten]

And really though, why not go for a 14-day early EOWO... I have heard that booking FPs at 74-days out is quite a relaxing thing of beauty.

Basically all Disney accomplished was giving another group of guests a motivation to make dummy bookings.

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

Basically all Disney accomplished was giving another group of guests a motivation to make dummy bookings.

Yep. This change makes absolutely no sense.

And it's an easy fix to stop the dummy bookings. As a previously said, if a FP is made > 30 days out, tie it to the check in date of the reservation that opened the window. As long as there is a reservation in MDE for each night between the check in date the FP is attached to and the date of the FP, it's good.

 

[Gentry2004]

As of this week, nothing prevents this. Which has been my point throughout this thread, no ‘strategies’ have been precented by the changes.



If you have overlapping reservations and drop the one that opened the window )the EOWO), then the FP are still “protected” but the “real” resort reservation. But yes, you cannot now have FP >30 days out without a reservation that doesn’t cover all FP days.

Have we actually had confirmation of this? People lost FP’s when they didn’t have a resort reservation covering their days? What if they wait until inside 30 to cancel? I thought none of that was solved yet.