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And for some folks if you say you don’t like how Rey was written and how Luke was treated you are called nasty names on here. Even when you like other other female protagonist in other roles.

Love how Katnis Everdeen is written, but hate how Rey was written……..”see I knew you were a $&@#¥£€!?=“

We've been over it many, many times - it's fine to dislike how Rey was written, however the oft cited reasons also apply to many other characters, namely the most analagous Luke and Anakin. So, it would totally be fair to not like how any of those characters were written because they are overpowered or whatever. When you only dislike one of them though, and that one has a single differentiating feature, well, people will conclude as to why. And look, maybe that doesn't apply to you personally - I honestly don't think it does - but when you quote the sources that make the same complaints about the character, and we know why they feel that way - because they don't make it about the moviem, they make it about the character - then it certainly can seem that way.

And despite any misgivings about the plot or the character, do you really see those movies, or any Marvel movies, or any Disney movies released recently as "preachy"? I cant think of a single one that is, and yet so many people complain about that. Why is the real question.
 
Some history.

https://archive.nytimes.com/dealboo...-nelson-peltz-after-2-years-of-locking-horns/

PepsiCo Reaches Truce With Nelson Peltz After 2 Years of Locking Horns
By Michael J. de la Merced - January 16, 2015 4:20 pm

Nearly two years of public saber-rattling between PepsiCo and the billionaire investor Nelson Peltz appeared to end on Friday, as the two announced a truce of sorts.

PepsiCo, the food and beverage giant, said that it would add William R. Johnson, the former chief executive of H. J. Heinz, to its board. Mr. Johnson, who will serve as an independent director, is also an adviser to Mr. Peltz’s investment firm, Trian Fund Management.

The settlement will most likely end a long-running campaign by Mr. Peltz and his team to break up PepsiCo, who have asserted that investors would benefit by spinning off the company’s beverages business from its better-performing snacks unit.

The announcement comes on the heels of a very different — and decidedly more combative — situation at the chemical maker DuPont, where Trian has begun a battle to win four seats on the board.

It is the latest settlement by Trian, whose success as a “constructive” activist investor willing to work behind the scenes with companies have led to the firm’s managing about $11 billion with a return of about 55 percent over the last two years, net of fees.

PepsiCo seemed poised to become the next target of a proxy challenge by Mr. Peltz, who over the last decade has taken that aggressive activist step only twice: at Heinz and DuPont. Trian first unveiled its campaign to break up PepsiCo in the summer of 2013, following a playbook that the investment firm has previously deployed at the likes of Cadbury Schweppes, which broke up into Cadbury and the Dr Pepper Snapple Group.

At PepsiCo, Mr. Peltz and his team said that splitting up the two businesses would free them up to pursue different management strategies. The snacks division, which includes Frito-Lay, would become a public company with a fast-growing stock price, while the beverages business — weighed down by a drop in soda sales — could pay out handsome dividends.

Trian, which owns a stake of roughly 1 percent, said that it had met with 100 of its fellow shareholders, winning the public support of the big California public pension fund known as Calstrs.

But PepsiCo has staunchly defended its current business model after conducting what it called “an exhaustive review” of strategic alternatives. Helping the food company is its performance. The company’s third-quarter profit surpassed analysts’ expectations, after management cut costs and raised prices to bolster the bottom line.

And shares in PepsiCo have risen nearly 17 percent over the last 12 months, handily outpacing the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index. Mr. Peltz has said privately, however, that his firm’s agitation has contributed to that rise.

Still, the announcement on Friday suggests that Trian and Indra Nooyi, PepsiCo’s chairwoman and chief executive, had reached some kind of détente that will prevent a split of the company — at least for now.

“We have had constructive discussions with Trian for nearly two years,” Ms. Nooyi said in a statement. “They have provided valuable input to many aspects of our business, and the recommendation of Bill as an independent director to the board.”

Mr. Peltz also took the opportunity to extend an olive branch.

“We support Indra’s commitment to operational excellence, which has resulted in improved performance of the company. We are confident that Bill will be a strong and complementary addition to the PepsiCo board,” he said in a statement.

As part of the deal, Mr. Johnson will become PepsiCo’s 14th board member on March 23. He will then be included with other nominees at the company’s annual shareholder meeting later this year.

The appointment of Mr. Johnson also highlights a new initiative by Trian to emphasize its focus on improving operations at companies in which it invests. Mr. Johnson is one of three inaugural members of what the firm calls Trian Advisory Partners, alongside Dennis M. Kass, the former chairman of Legg Mason, and Dennis Reilley, the chairman of Marathon Oil and a former senior executive at DuPont.

The newly formed group is meant to help the firm identify potential new investments and to provide advice for management teams. And as at PepsiCo, they can also serve as directors on those companies’ boards.

Trian executives said that they had come to know the three men through investments in companies where the executives had worked. In some ways, the addition of Mr. Johnson — who led Heinz during the sometimes bruising battle with Mr. Peltz — is a surprise. During the proxy fight, Mr. Johnson contended that if the financier succeeded, “you’re going to have a destabilizing situation.”

But Mr. Peltz has since described becoming close to his onetime foe, with Mr. Johnson spending time at Trian’s offices in Midtown Manhattan.

Similarly, Trian executives did not know Mr. Kass or Mr. Reilley until becoming involved in their companies. Both men have also spent significant time with the activist firm, including regularly meeting with senior executives.

Trian is expected to announce more additions to the advisory board in the coming months.

“We have served on boards with our new advisory partners in recent years and appreciate the independent thinking and industry knowledge they bring to board and management collaborations,” Edward P. Garden, a Trian co-founder and its chief investment officer, said in a statement. “We are excited to formalize their roles with Trian and expect they will leverage the ongoing work of our 17 investment professionals.”
I was just about to search for the history. Thanks!!
 
Some history.

https://archive.nytimes.com/dealboo...-nelson-peltz-after-2-years-of-locking-horns/

PepsiCo Reaches Truce With Nelson Peltz After 2 Years of Locking Horns
By Michael J. de la Merced - January 16, 2015 4:20 pm

Nearly two years of public saber-rattling between PepsiCo and the billionaire investor Nelson Peltz appeared to end on Friday, as the two announced a truce of sorts.

PepsiCo, the food and beverage giant, said that it would add William R. Johnson, the former chief executive of H. J. Heinz, to its board. Mr. Johnson, who will serve as an independent director, is also an adviser to Mr. Peltz’s investment firm, Trian Fund Management.

The settlement will most likely end a long-running campaign by Mr. Peltz and his team to break up PepsiCo, who have asserted that investors would benefit by spinning off the company’s beverages business from its better-performing snacks unit.

The announcement comes on the heels of a very different — and decidedly more combative — situation at the chemical maker DuPont, where Trian has begun a battle to win four seats on the board.

It is the latest settlement by Trian, whose success as a “constructive” activist investor willing to work behind the scenes with companies have led to the firm’s managing about $11 billion with a return of about 55 percent over the last two years, net of fees.

PepsiCo seemed poised to become the next target of a proxy challenge by Mr. Peltz, who over the last decade has taken that aggressive activist step only twice: at Heinz and DuPont. Trian first unveiled its campaign to break up PepsiCo in the summer of 2013, following a playbook that the investment firm has previously deployed at the likes of Cadbury Schweppes, which broke up into Cadbury and the Dr Pepper Snapple Group.

At PepsiCo, Mr. Peltz and his team said that splitting up the two businesses would free them up to pursue different management strategies. The snacks division, which includes Frito-Lay, would become a public company with a fast-growing stock price, while the beverages business — weighed down by a drop in soda sales — could pay out handsome dividends.

Trian, which owns a stake of roughly 1 percent, said that it had met with 100 of its fellow shareholders, winning the public support of the big California public pension fund known as Calstrs.

But PepsiCo has staunchly defended its current business model after conducting what it called “an exhaustive review” of strategic alternatives. Helping the food company is its performance. The company’s third-quarter profit surpassed analysts’ expectations, after management cut costs and raised prices to bolster the bottom line.

And shares in PepsiCo have risen nearly 17 percent over the last 12 months, handily outpacing the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index. Mr. Peltz has said privately, however, that his firm’s agitation has contributed to that rise.

Still, the announcement on Friday suggests that Trian and Indra Nooyi, PepsiCo’s chairwoman and chief executive, had reached some kind of détente that will prevent a split of the company — at least for now.

“We have had constructive discussions with Trian for nearly two years,” Ms. Nooyi said in a statement. “They have provided valuable input to many aspects of our business, and the recommendation of Bill as an independent director to the board.”

Mr. Peltz also took the opportunity to extend an olive branch.

“We support Indra’s commitment to operational excellence, which has resulted in improved performance of the company. We are confident that Bill will be a strong and complementary addition to the PepsiCo board,” he said in a statement.

As part of the deal, Mr. Johnson will become PepsiCo’s 14th board member on March 23. He will then be included with other nominees at the company’s annual shareholder meeting later this year.

The appointment of Mr. Johnson also highlights a new initiative by Trian to emphasize its focus on improving operations at companies in which it invests. Mr. Johnson is one of three inaugural members of what the firm calls Trian Advisory Partners, alongside Dennis M. Kass, the former chairman of Legg Mason, and Dennis Reilley, the chairman of Marathon Oil and a former senior executive at DuPont.

The newly formed group is meant to help the firm identify potential new investments and to provide advice for management teams. And as at PepsiCo, they can also serve as directors on those companies’ boards.

Trian executives said that they had come to know the three men through investments in companies where the executives had worked. In some ways, the addition of Mr. Johnson — who led Heinz during the sometimes bruising battle with Mr. Peltz — is a surprise. During the proxy fight, Mr. Johnson contended that if the financier succeeded, “you’re going to have a destabilizing situation.”

But Mr. Peltz has since described becoming close to his onetime foe, with Mr. Johnson spending time at Trian’s offices in Midtown Manhattan.

Similarly, Trian executives did not know Mr. Kass or Mr. Reilley until becoming involved in their companies. Both men have also spent significant time with the activist firm, including regularly meeting with senior executives.

Trian is expected to announce more additions to the advisory board in the coming months.

“We have served on boards with our new advisory partners in recent years and appreciate the independent thinking and industry knowledge they bring to board and management collaborations,” Edward P. Garden, a Trian co-founder and its chief investment officer, said in a statement. “We are excited to formalize their roles with Trian and expect they will leverage the ongoing work of our 17 investment professionals.”
So does that mean Disney just gave a death blow to itself by hiring someone who has a friendship with Peltz?
 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...tock-rating-downgrade-asset-sales-1235637590/

Paramount Analyst Cuts Stock Rating From ‘Buy’ to ‘Underperform’ Due to Lack of Asset Sales

Bank of America expert Jessica Reif Ehrlich, in her report "Hard to buy if not for sale," slashed her price target on the shares from $32 to $9.

by Georg Szalai
November 6, 2023 6:47am PST

Bank of America analyst Jessica Reif Ehrlich has been bullish on the stock of Paramount Global, driven by her belief that the entertainment giant could fetch attractive price tags for key assets. But on Monday, she cut her stock rating on the Hollywood company all the way from “buy” to “underperform,” while decimating her price target on the shares from $32 to $9 in a report entitled “Hard to buy if not for sale.”

Paramount shares declined in early Monday trading despite gains in the broader market, hitting $13.22, down 3.9 percent, at 9:35 a.m. ET. For the year, the stock is down more than 20 percent.

“Our prior bullish thesis and valuation methodology was predicated on Paramount’s inherent asset value in a potential sale,” Reif Ehrlich explained in her report. “Despite receiving credible bids for several different assets (e.g. Showtime and BET), it does not appear any significant asset sales are on the horizon. Given the secular challenges in the traditional media ecosystem, we were surprised to see Paramount walk away from these potential buyers for various assets.”

The analyst added this warning: “Our concern is the longer it takes to execute potential asset sales, the less value they could ultimately garner.”

In her earnings preview report, the Wall Street veteran had emphasized: “Paramount has a unique collection of assets that would generate significant interest if put up for sale.”

Reif Ehrlich’s downgrade came after Paramount, led by CEO Bob Bakish, reported better-than-expected third-quarter earnings and a narrowed streaming loss last week. About her new price target of $9, she highlighted that it was seven times her 2024 estimates for Paramount’s operating income before depreciation and amortization (OIBDA), “which represents a modest premium to the current trading levels of both Warner Bros. Discovery/Fox and a discount to Disney.”
I just feel like it is inevitable that they will be bought by someone.
Could be, but I suspect Shari Redstone will hold out as long as she can. The egos in play here are as outsized as anywhere on Planet Earth. As hard as she fought to get control of everything, I just don't see her rolling over for mere money.

Unless, of course, the offer has enough zeros and commas in it...
This Jessica person needs to back off for downgrading Paramount’s stock rating. Screw her!
 


I just personally believe your logic is incredibly lazy. To assume the vast amount of people that didn’t care for the Rey character are “toxic man babies” is a massive oversimplification. Are there a few? Sure. Does that represent the bulk of the people male and female that don’t like how that character was written? Not a chance.

Many of the same people y’all call names on this message board love Eleven as the main protagonist in Stranger Things. I don’t believe you can have your criticism both ways in
my opinion. I personally don’t believe that the people are selectively behaving as the bad names y’all love to call them.

However, folks in this thread want stock info, so I will stop replying now.
 
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So does that mean Disney just gave a death blow to itself by hiring someone who has a friendship with Peltz?
IMO, not at all. Johnston was Pepsico CFO for the past 13 yrs. So he was in the big middle of the Trian/Pepsico dealings, and likely is familar with how Peltz operates and thinks. This will be a big help to Bob Iger.

I don't think Peltz and Johnston are/were allies, but I don't know that for sure.

Again, IMO.
 
I just personally believe your logic is incredibly lazy. To assume the vast amount of people that didn’t care for the Rey character are “toxic man babies” is a massive oversimplification. Are a few? Sure. Does that represent the bulk of the people male and female that don’t like how that character was written? Not a chance.

Many of the same people y’all call names on this message board love Eleven as the main protagonist in Stranger Things. I don’t believe you can have your criticism both ways in
my opinion. I personally don’t believe that the people are selectively behaving as the bad names y’all love to call them.

However, folks in this thread want stock info, so I will stop replying now.

I'm not necessarily saying that it's right, it's just a reasonable reaction. When certain notorious sources are cited, it will create a corellation. You have never been able to tell me why it's okay that Luke can fly an X-Wing with zero training but if Rey can fight well it's ridiculous. If all things were criticized equally then it wouldn't be an issue - but they're not.
 


IMO, not at all. Johnston was Pepsico CFO for the past 13 yrs. So he was in the big middle of the Trian/Pepsico dealings, and likely is familar with how Peltz operates and thinks. This will be a big help to Bob Iger.

I don't think Peltz and Johnston are/were allies, but I don't know that for sure.

Again, IMO.
Was Johnston responsible for having PepsiCo spin off their restaurant division (which included KFC, Taco Bell, Long John Silver's)?
 
Was Johnston responsible for having PepsiCo spin off their restaurant division (which included KFC, Taco Bell, Long John Silver's)?
That was in 1997, before he became CFO.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-01-24-1997024002-story.html

PepsiCo to spin off restaurant business Bottler narrows focus;Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, KFC hurt bottom line
BLOOMBERG BUSINESS NEWS
1/24/1997

NEW YORK -- In a move that had been anticipated, PepsiCo Inc. said yesterday that it will spin off its restaurants and possibly sell its restaurant supply company to focus on its more profitable and promising soft drinks and snacks.
Pepsi will shed its biggest line of business -- KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut -- which it has assembled over two decades, because it has dragged down earnings and chewed through much-needed capital. It didn't give the terms of the spinoff, though it expects to complete it by year-end.
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney...tivist-investor-battle-af577e21?siteid=yhoof2

Disney’s New CFO Brings Experience to Company’s Activist Investor Battle
Hugh Johnston served as Pepsi’s chief financial officer when the company faced calls for a breakup from activist Nelson Peltz

By Kristin Broughton and Jennifer Williams-Alvarez
Nov. 6, 2023 6:01 pm EST

Disney’s new finance chief steps into the role with a noteworthy victory: His former company fended off an attack from activist investor Nelson Peltz.

Disney on Monday named Hugh Johnston, the longtime finance chief of PepsiCo, as its next chief financial officer. Johnston joins Disney as the company faces activist pressure from Peltz, whose firm, Trian Fund Management, has built a sizable stake in the company and is threatening a proxy battle. Disney’s stock price has recently tumbled, under pressure from ongoing cord-cutting and the high cost of streaming.

During Johnston’s 13-year tenure as Pepsi’s CFO, the company prevailed in its own battle with Peltz. Trian Fund Management in 2016 exited its position in Pepsi, after earlier pushing for a breakup of the global snack-and-beverage maker. Pepsi in 2015 named William Johnson, one of the firm’s advisory partners, to its board. The company meanwhile turned its focus to cost savings, while also raising dividends and buybacks. Its efficiency efforts paid off, as Pepsi hiked its earnings guidance in 2014 and 2015. Trian said at the time of the exit that the company had addressed many of its concerns, including costs, productivity and earnings growth.

“I think you saw an improvement to the magnitude to where any potential spinoff or splitting up of the business—it dissipated,” said Gerald Pascarelli, who covers Pepsi as a senior vice president for equity research at Wedbush Securities.
The activist battle is just one of several challenges that Johnston will face in his new role. Deal making will be a key focus. Disney is looking at potential partnerships for ESPN. During the first nine months of the fiscal year, profit in the company’s sports segment declined 20%, squeezed by the continuing effect of consumers switching from cable TV to streaming.

Disney is also in negotiations with Comcast’s NBCUniversal over the future of Hulu, the streaming video service. Disney said last week it expects to pay at least $8.61 billion for Comcast’s minority stake. The company had $11.5 billion in cash on its balance sheet as of July 1.

“There are a lot of complicated questions about how all of this happens, and the CFO is going to be in the middle of all that,” said Joe Bonner, a senior securities analyst covering technology, media and telecommunications at Argus Research.

Disney declined to make Johnston available for an interview. Trian declined to comment.

During the quarter ended July 1, Disney reported a net loss of $460 million, compared with a profit of $1.41 billion a year earlier. The company’s share price has declined 16% over the past year, closing at $84.02 Monday. Disney is expected to report quarterly results on Wednesday.

Pepsi analysts described Johnston as a solid operator whose company is known for consistently topping Wall Street expectations. He led the snack maker through pandemic-fueled backlogs in global supply chains, and more recently through a period of persistent inflation.

During the quarter ended Sept. 9, profit rose 14%, to $3.1 billion, as consumers continued to pay higher prices for brands including Cheetos, Lay’s and Gatorade.

He steps into his new role at Disney during a tumultuous period in the company’s executive ranks. Bob Iger returned to Disney last year to serve as chief executive for the second time, after the company ousted former CEO Bob Chapek. The company in July extended Iger’s contract through 2026.

Johnston succeeds Christine McCarthy, who stepped down in June to take a family medical leave, and who clashed with top executives over strategy issues, including how much money Disney spends on content, The Wall Street Journal reported at the time. Kevin Lansberry, executive vice president and chief financial officer of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products, served as interim CFO.

Separately, Pepsi on Monday named longtime company executive Jamie Caulfield as Johnston’s successor. Caulfield has served since 2019 as CFO of the company’s PepsiCo Foods North America division. He has also held senior-level finance roles across the company.

Pepsi declined to make Caulfield available for an interview.
 
That was in 1997, before he became CFO.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-01-24-1997024002-story.html

PepsiCo to spin off restaurant business Bottler narrows focus;Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, KFC hurt bottom line
BLOOMBERG BUSINESS NEWS
1/24/1997

NEW YORK -- In a move that had been anticipated, PepsiCo Inc. said yesterday that it will spin off its restaurants and possibly sell its restaurant supply company to focus on its more profitable and promising soft drinks and snacks.
Pepsi will shed its biggest line of business -- KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut -- which it has assembled over two decades, because it has dragged down earnings and chewed through much-needed capital. It didn't give the terms of the spinoff, though it expects to complete it by year-end.
Okay, then is Johnston known for pushing for asset sales and cost-cutting?
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...erience-with-nelson-peltz-not-media#xj4y7vzkg
Disney Taps CFO Who Fended Off Peltz at Pepsi, Beat Forecasts
  • Executive helped fend off the activist investor at Pepsi
  • Entertainment giant faces strategic, business challenges
By Christopher Palmeri
November 6, 2023 at 5:17 PM CST

PepsiCo Inc.’s Hugh Johnston will find a familiar face when he joins Walt Disney Co. next month as chief financial officer — activist investor Nelson Peltz.

Johnston, who has been Pepsi’s CFO since 2010, was a key player in fending off Trian Fund Management 10 years ago when its founder Peltz began pushing the soft drink and snack giant to either merge with a rival or split into two businesses. Johnston argued against the proposal. Pepsi added a Peltz adviser to its board in 2015, and Trian sold its shares the following year.

“With Hugh there, Pepsi did a nice job convincing the Street that it had a growth plan,” said Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Ken Shea.

Peltz is now seeking several board seats at Disney after amassing a $2.5 billion stake in the company. He dropped a similar push earlier this year after Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger announced a cost-cutting plan. But Disney’s stock has continued to underperform the S&P 500, losing about 3% of its value this year.

Disney announced the appointment of Johnston, 62, as its new CFO early Monday. He succeeds longtime executive Christine McCarthy, who stepped down for family medical leave in June.

The new CFO is expected to bring a seasoned hand to other issues at Disney. The world’s largest entertainment company is struggling to navigate the shift by consumers from traditional TV channels to streaming services. Iger, who returned to run Disney a year ago, has said he may sell networks like ABC. He’s looking for a strategic partner for his
ESPN sports business and intends to buy Comcast’s Corp.’s one-third of the Hulu streaming service.

Johnston, who first joined Pepsi in 1987, was considered the right hand to CEO Indra Nooyi before she retired in 2018.

He’s continued to advise Pepsi’s current boss Ramon Laguarta in his efforts to grow the business, such as the $3.85 billion purchase of Rockstar energy drink in 2020.

Other strategic moves have included an attempt to address consumer concerns about healthy eating by making smaller containers of soda and snacks, such as the company’s Doritos and Cheetos.

Under Johnston, Pepsi has become known for making and beating conservative financial forecasts. The executive has often been the public face of the company on Wall Street, in investor presentations and TV appearances. That could potentially make him a candidate to succeed Iger, whose contract runs through 2026, according to Citigroup analyst Filippo Falorni.

“He’s been around the organization,” Falorni said in an interview. “He’s had a lot of operational experience.”

Disney declined to comment or make Johnston available.

Johnston, who serves on the board of Microsoft Corp. and HCA Healthcare Inc., doesn’t have any direct experience in movies, TV or theme parks, Disney’s core businesses.

When Johnston joined the board of Twitter Inc. in 2016, many observed that he didn’t have an account on the social media site beforehand.

“Twitter Inc. may have found an answer to its problem of user growth — add nonusers to the company’s board and get them to start tweeting,” MarketWatch wrote at the time.

In an address at his alma mater, Syracuse University, in 2012 Johnston said new challenges are the key to professional growth.

“If you constantly work on developing yourselves and the skills you possess, you will stay fresh and be able to transform in any environment or market that you are in,” he said.

Then he gave out cans of Pepsi.

— With assistance by Thomas Buckley and Brett Pulley
 
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Bob Iger faces India dilemma as Disney weighs options for Star
Loss of IPL cricket streaming rights and global restructuring means a deal may be done
Christopher Grimes in Los Angeles and Chloe Cornish in Mumbai
11/6/23

When Walt Disney acquired 21st Century Fox from Rupert Murdoch for $71bn in 2019, one of the most promising long-term businesses it took control of was Star India.

Star had strong TV and film businesses — and it owned the broadcast rights to Indian Premier League cricket matches, guaranteeing huge audiences for the country’s national sport. It had also recently launched the Hotstar app, which brought streaming to a potential market of hundreds of millions of Indian viewers

.“There was excitement about the growth potential” of Star India, said Tim Nollen, an analyst who follows Disney for Macquarie. “That’s not why Disney bought Fox, but that was a very intriguing component to it.”

Now the architect of the Fox deal, Disney chief executive Bob Iger, is taking a hard look at Star India as he reviews the company’s wider TV holdings.

With Disney facing another year of expected streaming losses, an $8.6bn-plus acquisition of Comcast’s stake in Hulu and a US TV business in secular decline, Iger is weighing his options for Star India, rebranded last year to Disney Star.

These include selling stakes that could leave the US group as a minority investor in the business — or possibly shedding its entire holding, which could fetch as much as $10bn.

Disney is in talks with Reliance Industries, the Indian conglomerate run by billionaire Mukesh Ambani, about a possible sale of its Star assets or a potential joint venture, according to people familiar with the discussions. The talks are in early stages and may not be exclusive to Reliance, as the US company sounds out private equity groups, including Blackstone, about their interest in taking a stake in the assets.

Two media industry insiders in India noted Justin Warbrooke, who leads Disney’s international finance, had visited Mumbai in recent weeks.

Disney and Blackstone all declined to comment.

Investor enthusiasm for Disney’s India business began to fade last year after the company lost the online rights to stream the popular IPL tournament from 2023-2027. While Disney kept the broadcast TV rights, the streaming rights went to JioCinema — a joint venture between Ambani’s Reliance Industries and Viacom18, run by James Murdoch and former Disney India chief Uday Shankar — following a record $6.2bn auction.

It was a coup for JioCinema because many Indian cricket fans watch matches on their mobile phones instead of traditional TV. For Disney, it was a setback: the company had used its dominance of IPL matches to build out its Star TV network, India’s largest, and the Disney+ Hotstar streaming platform.

Last month Disney revealed for the first time exactly how big a drag Star’s sports business has been for the company. Star reported a $444mn operating loss in the nine months ended July 1, far more than for all of its previous fiscal year when it reported a $237mn operating loss. The US company’s operating margin for its sports business was 15.7 per cent in fiscal 2022 — but excluding Star and ESPN International, the group would have posted margins of 19.2 per cent.

In contrast, Star’s entertainment business has strong viewership and profitability, said Mihir Shah, India head at consultancy Media Partners Asia. “Given the fact that linear TV is profitable and . . . the fact that relatively low-cost local general entertainment now has found a strong resting place on streaming, Disney/Star’s entertainment assets would be attractive to any acquirer or partner.”

But he said losses for Disney’s Indian sports business will remain “material in the coming years, largely attributed to the US group’s aggressive bidding in renewing rights, particularly the ICC Cricket rights, which were secured for a staggering $3bn last year”.

Disney+ Hotstar’s number of subscribers fell 24 per cent to 40.4mn in the fiscal third quarter, and its average revenue per subscriber was just 59 cents. That compared with $6.01 for Disney’s international streaming businesses in the same quarter.

A former Disney executive noted there has been hot debate inside the company about “what to do about India”.

“They have the biggest studio in India, a big TV business with Star, in the fastest-growing big economy in the world,” the person said. “Some want to sell that because the annual revenue per subscriber is low? It’s crazy.

”Michael Nathanson, an analyst at MoffettNathanson, agreed: “Disney has to be in India.” But he added: “I don’t know if you need to own distribution in India if you’re Disney right now.”

A solution could involve the US group selling a majority stake to Reliance, allowing it to license its entertainment content to the Indian group.

“I would love them to find a strategic buyer that will take an ownership stake of Star, keep Disney as a minority, and then basically consolidate with an incumbent to improve the economics and to cut down on the competitive dynamics of the market,” Nathanson said.

“You don’t want to have to bid against [Reliance] long-term for sports rights. Sports is the driver of this business and the cost of cricket keeps going the wrong way.”

In October, Disney offered free mobile phone streaming of the Cricket World Cup in India in hopes of regaining some of its momentum after losing the IPL streaming rights. The strategy resulted in a record-breaking 43mn concurrent users during the world cup — a demonstration of its “technical prowess”, Shah of Media Partners noted.

The rivalry between Reliance and Disney is not just limited to sports rights. Analysts say Disney has also suffered from a “brain drain” as Shankar has poached some of the brightest executives from his old company.

“A lot of the talent that was at Hotstar and Star has left for the competition,” Nathanson said. “So you’ve lost a lot of brainpower there, including Uday Shankar and all of his lieutenants. I think it really would be great to find a partner there to take on management and investment.”

Disney in India declined to comment.

Nollen of Macquarie said a deal for Star India could be especially well-timed for Disney given the looming transaction with Comcast over the Hulu streaming service. Last week Comcast put its option to sell its 33 per cent stake in Hulu to Disney, which will have to pay a floor value of $8.6bn — and potentially billions more following an appraisal process that is expected to conclude in 2024.“

Star has been dragging things down,” Nollen said. “It would be nice if Disney could sell something to help fund the acquisition of Hulu. I think investors would be very happy to see some sort of support for that Hulu deal at this point.”

Additional reporting by Antoine Gara in New York
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/disney-much-bigger-issues-c-215345172.html

Disney has 'much bigger issues' than its C-suite changeups
Josh Lipton and Luke Carberry Mogan
Mon, November 6, 2023 at 3:53 PM CST

Disney (DIS) has selected longtime PepsiCo (PEP) CFO and Vice Chairman Hugh Johnston to be its next CFO, ahead of the media company's fiscal fourth-quarter earnings on Wednesday, November 8.

Citi Managing Director Jason Bazinet joins Yahoo Finance to comment on Hugh Johnston's transition and how Disney is evaluating its streaming services, like Hulu, and linear TV segment.

"The first big overhang for the stock is they have to buy the balance of Hulu that they don't own..." Bazinet says. "They're also talking about selling ABC, selling the India assets. Those are two big reasonably-sized assets. We don't know what the proceeds are. And then there's ESPN..."

Video Transcript

- There's CFO change here, the CFO Hugh Johnston, are you a fan of that decision, Jason, and what do you think Hugh's priorities should be here?

JASON BAZINET: Well, look my inbox lit up with people that were very excited about this hire. So I think it was a good hire for Disney. But I would say in the grand scheme of things, Disney has much bigger issues that it has to contend with above and beyond sort of c-suite changes.

- What would you put at the top of that list, Jason? I mean, Josh and I were just talking about some of the cost discipline, cost issues that Disney will have to address, whether it's in their streaming side of things, or what some would say more of their legacy assets and what they actually do with it. Where do you sort of rank the priorities for the company?

JASON BAZINET: Well the first big overhang for the stock is they have to buy the balance of Hulu that they don't own. And the street doesn't know how much they're going to pay for it, and it goes to a third-party appraisal process. So that's a big unknown that we won't get an answer for until early in '24. They're also talking about selling ABC, selling the India assets. Those are two big, you know, reasonably assets, we don't know what the proceeds are.

And then-- and then there's ESPN, where the company's talked publicly about potentially getting an equity stake to some third-party, presumably leagues. And then there's the overall aspirations on streaming. I mean, right now, the market is operating under the assumption that it's sort of a winner-take-all market in streaming, where Netflix wins and everyone else in the legacy media side, including Disney is a loser. And so Disney somehow in that giant mix of variables has to figure out how to right the ship and get their streaming business valued properly by the street.

- And then, Jason, there's a lot to unpack there. You mentioned ABC though, and Iger has talked about divesting traditional channels like ABC. What are the value of those assets, Jason, and who do you think potential buyers are?

JASON BAZINET: Yeah. So on the ABC side, they don't disclose the financials, so, you know, it's our best guess. But I would say it probably has an enterprise value, and I'm including both the network and the TV stations probably around $6 billion. The India assets are probably worth around $10 billion. You know, the Hulu stake, that's a big unknown, that's going to be an outflow. But it could be $10 billion, $20 billion, we just don't know. It depends on that third-party appraisal process. So a lot of big dollar amounts moving around.

- Who do you think makes sense, though? I mean, who would interested in buying that?

JASON BAZINET: Yes. I think Reliance has been talked about in the press on the India assets. On the ABC asset, I think the easiest fit would be a TV station group like Nexstar. They don't own-- Disney only has eight TV stations, mostly in very large markets. Fresno's the smallest market, but its big markets-- New York, LA, Chicago, and there's very little overlap with Nexstar. So that makes sense. It's sort of easy for them to plug into their existing portfolio with very little friction.
 
Added a bit to my Disney position (and some others) this morning as I usually do regardless of what's happening. Keep chipping away at the overall gain/loss on the stock...as long as I keep adding at prices under my average purchase price, I'm good.
 
I'm not necessarily saying that it's right, it's just a reasonable reaction. When certain notorious sources are cited, it will create a corellation. You have never been able to tell me why it's okay that Luke can fly an X-Wing with zero training but if Rey can fight well it's ridiculous. If all things were criticized equally then it wouldn't be an issue - but they're not.
Aren't there a 1000 other threads this could be discussed in?
 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...mayer-bob-iger-disney-espn-future-1235638852/

Kevin Mayer Says Bob Iger Enlisted Him to Advise Disney Because He Needed “Part of His Team Back”
Disney's linear channels "may or may not be part of the company" in the future, Mayer said Tuesday.

by Alex Weprin
November 7, 2023 9:57am PST

Disney CEO Bob Iger has “his hands full” with challenges, from an activist investor in Nelson Peltz, to big strategic decisions regarding Hulu and Disney’s linear channels, to setting a strategy for the future of the company.

It is with that context in mind that Candle Media CEO and former top Disney executive Kevin Mayer says he was welcomed back into the Disney fold as a strategic advisor to Iger.

“I can’t tell you what advice I’m giving to Bob and I suppose to the board, but look he needed some part of his team back,” Mayer said, speaking at the Yahoo! Finance Invest conference in New York Tuesday morning. “He came back to a company that had vastly changed. The previous leadership under Bob Chapek had been making some decisions that probably Bob Iger would not have taken if he was CEO… But when you come back into a situation where there’s a massive change from when you left and the team that you’ve had before, and relied on before were gone. It left them in a position where he really wanted to have some people that he trusted, you know, tell him what they thought, and that’s what I’m doing. I’m not spending an enormous amount of time but I was at the company for a long time.”

Iger, Mayer says, was one of the “best CEOs in American history” and felt like he had an obligation to return to Disney. Iger was disappointed “to see the company not live up to the standards that he had set forth, so stepping back into it was something I think he felt that he had to do.”

As for Iger’s priorities, ESPN is at the top of the heap.

“He’s definitely most focused on making sure that ESPN, a company that he really believes in strongly, is well positioned for the future,” Mayer told Yahoo’s Alexandra Canal, adding that when it comes to looking for partners, “we want to have content partners who can really strengthen our hand and allow us to create multiple tiers of offerings. And we want to have distribution partners.”

But Iger is also focused on what comes next for Disney, once the “uncertainty” around Disney’s linear networks are settled.

“It depends on how Bob Iger ends up reconfiguring [the company], it really does,” Mayer said. “It could be a Disney that has a majority ownership of ESPN with some really great partners, still running ESPN in an over the top service and in the bundle.”

As for the rest of Disney’s linear channels, like Freeform, Disney Channel and ABC:

“Those may or may not be part of the company,” Mayer said. “Maybe they’re put in some sort of joint venture, you can imagine all sorts of different dispositions for those assets, but then you’re left with the core of the company, which I think is an amazing core.”

“You have Disney, Marvel, Star Wars and Pixar, the core brands… and you have the franchises that exist beneath those brands. They’re all there. And they’re hugely powerful business platforms,” he added. There’s streaming, which I think will be profitable very, very soon… their theme parks. People forget about consumer products, which is a massively profitable business for the Walt Disney Company.”

And there’s one area that Disney is not a major player in, but which Mayer thinks it should look into.

“Games is the one place where I think Disney has not yet made a substantial investment,” he said. “It’s also a place where people can interact with or spend a lot of time with their favorite characters in context… So gaming is the last big sort of business platform. You plug that into those core assets, and no matter what happens to those linear networks, you have a really great growth trajectory.

As for the future of Candle Media, Mayer acknowledged that with Blackstone as a backer there will eventually be an exit, be it an IPO “when the time is right,” a “strategic” sale to a larger entertainment company or even a sale to another private equity firm.

“Who knows, maybe KKR owns us in three years,” Mayer quipped.
 
https://deadline.com/2023/11/disney-candle-media-kevin-mayer-bob-iger-espn-streaming-1235595531/

Candle Media Co-Chief Kevin Mayer On Disney Issues Like Succession, ESPN’s Future, Streaming Economics & More: “Bob Has His Hands Full”

By Dade Hayes - Business Editor @dadehayes November 7, 2023 9:48am PST

Streaming‘s challenging economics will make industry consolidation “inevitable,” in the view of Candle Media Co-CEO Kevin Mayer, but Big Tech and Hollywood are likely to remain in separate camps.

Mayer shared his outlook in an appearance at the Yahoo Finance Invest conference in New York. Most of the 15-minute sit-down focused on the Walt Disney Co., where Mayer was a longtime senior exec and now serves as an advisor to CEO Bob Iger. “Bob has his hands full,” Mayer said of the myriad issues facing Disney, from activist investors to restless shareholders to various moving strategic parts. The 72-year-old top exec is “very capable and multifaceted. He has a lot of range, so he can handle it. … You have to be disciplined, and Bob’s always been very strategic.”

As to Disney’s lagging stock price, Mayer said the market is “reacting to uncertainty” about the future of Hulu, ESPN, the leadership of the company and other aspects of the media giant.

During his stint running the strategic planning group at Disney, Mayer engineered a historic run of M&A deals, including the acquisitions of Marvel, Pixar and most of 21st Century Fox. Prior to his 2020 exit, he spearheaded the launch of Disney+ and has gone on to focus on streaming and digital content at Candle and as chairman of sports streamer DAZN and CEO of TikTok.

An experiment DAZN ran with packaging streaming-only rights to European soccer led Mayer to believe that ESPN has considerable upside when pricing its forthcoming stand-along streaming service. Long funded by distribution fees from pay-TV providers, ESPN is actively plotting out a future as a direct-to-consumer service. One of the dilemmas in bringing it to market is about where to price it. On paper, ESPN has the potential to be the most expensive offering in modern streaming history, well above the $23-a-month top of the general-entertainment market, given its trove of sports rights.

Having found early traction with Disney+ by pricing it at $6.99 a month, Mayer recalled deciding to take a similar tack in Italy, going to market at about €10 below prior levels established by Sky. DAZN then decided to boost the price from €20 Euros to €35 and found that few if any subscribers quit the service as a result. The takeaway: “Sports fans who really want their sports will pay a lot for it,” Mayer said.

Mayer declined to address the state of Disney’s efforts to find a strategic partner for ESPN as it mounts its direct-to-consumer push. More broadly, he said, the sheer expense of reaching scale in streaming, whose profit margins are unlikely ever to reach the historic highs of linear TV, will lead to M&A. Mayer said it is “not obvious” to him that more Amazon-MGM-style mash-ups of Big Tech and entertainment are in the offing. “I think there’s a little bit of nervousness there about how the two will intersect if they’re both under one roof,” he said of tech and Hollywood. “I’m not sure it’s an obvious thing that a high-growth, tech-focused company that’s really about its engineering and its product at its core would be a great home for creativity and the type of storytelling that Hollywood represents.”

Those kinds of “cultural mismatches make buyers nervous,” he continued. “Also, if you’re Apple TV+ or Google, you have access to programming from independent producers of content” like Candle Media. “If you want content for your streaming services, you can always buy it at arm’s length.”

Succession at Disney has historically been a difficult process, Mayer acknowledged. Iger returned as CEO in November 2022 after his hand-picked successor, Bob Chapek, made a series of missteps and was ousted by the board. Iger agreed to a short-term contract and has said a special committee is weighing candidates for Disney’s future CEO but much uncertainty continues to cloud the process. “It’s just hard,” he said, “especially if you’re a CEO as successful as Bob, I think it pains him to see the company not live up to the standards he had set for it. Stepping back in was something he felt he just had to do.”

Iger and the board “will pick a great successor,” Mayer predicted, noting there are a number of viable internal candidates. Asked if he would consider stepping into the job, which instead went to Chapek when Iger last passed the baton, Mayer demurred.

As for the future of Candle, which is backed by private equity giant Blackstone, the exec said there are three possible outcomes: an acquisition by a strategic buyer; an IPO; or a sale to another P.E. firm. “We’re set up for any of them,” he said.
 

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