Fair enough on the disagreement. I’m looking at it from the perspective of a non-DAS guest can’t wait in two standby lines at a time, so why should a DAS guest be able to?
Exactly! We still qualify under the new rules, but we have 3 minor children, making us 5. I’m hoping they just removed that to cut down on people asking for an exception, and that they will grant them in situations like ours. Have to wait and see how it all shakes out, and that’s hard!Ahhh sorry, I misread your comment/question. You're correct. And now I'm even more worried
It seems likely they will grant it for families with more than 2 minor children. But given that the default limit is 4, I highly doubt Disney is envisioning this will include grandparents unless the parents are not present.
Based on what Ive seen posted online, IBS is a frequent reason folks request DAS- look it up on TikTok, you'll see tons of videos. And recently it appears that many folks were getting denied for that reason from what I saw on here. So thats why I think that leave the line pass they're referring to might be to address that concern specifically.
A non-DAS guest can’t do lots of things someone with DAS can. Should DAS guest not be allowed to go back to their hotels to get away since non-DAS guest can’t wait in a line and return to their hotel?
Hope so! It’s certainly interesting that the language to make exceptions was there at first, and has since been removed.
Apparently it needs to be said here too. No one who has DAS and enters another line is abusing DAS. This is from the DAS FAQ page for WDW, screenshot a few minutes ago.
Not even the same, but you do you.
I agree. This huge perk is probably the biggest incentive for abusing the DAS. As a DAS holder you may be waiting the same amount of time as stand-by but outside of the line but can now use that time to ride one or more extra rides. Easy to get double or triple amount of rides in the same time frame as a non DAS holder. The legitimately disabled may not do this but the abuser certainly will.
This is simply not true. Medical gaslighting is real. Patients are not always believed. Insurance often will not cover tests. It can often take years to get an accurate medical diagnosis. You can't just pop in and say I am experiencing x,y,z, please diagnose me today.
I haven’t seen anyone say it’s abuse. I think it’s an incentive for people who don’t need DAS and I think it provides superior access, but as it stands now, it certainly isn’t abuse of the DAS.
Ponder the idea of DAS holder needing to leave the line for a medical reason which may or may not turn serious. Party of 2; or party of 3 with a minor child. As the parent, who leaves the line? All 3? Or do I send someone who may be having a life threatening medical issue out of the line alone and just hope they make it back and don't lose consciousness alone in the bathroom? This is NOT a solution
I think you are exactly the “immediate family” situation Disney will accommodate (not grandparents, adult siblings, etc.)— I believe they aren’t going to force parents with more than two minor children to split up the group and any other parties of 4 or more will be limited to DAS guest plus 3 others.
They don’t actually wait the same amount of time. It’s the standby wait minus 15 minutes.
Because you then must wait in the LL line which is typically 15 minutes or more. So the total wait is the same or more.
Since you quoted me, I want to clarify that I was NOT suggesting it is abuse of the system, it is how the system is currently designed. I could see arguments for changing it, but was pointing out it would be hard to make rules for the reason noted.
Those 15 minutes are meant to accommodate for time waiting in the lightning lane, though, which more often is exceeding a 15 minute wait (and DAS users who can't wait in it for reasons that require the DAS in the first place are then having to get out of line and forfeit all that time waited in the first place)
