CARNIVAL VS DCL: The discussion and comparison thread!

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@mevelandry glad you had a good time in Niagara Falls, we enjoyed a few days in Toronto in early August and agree it just made me want to cruise more. I have mixed vaccines so that's still an issue for us. Kiddo gets his second shot Saturday and he'll be ready to travel :D But I have to figure out how to do it, get another shot or something (Ontario isn't offering them for travel). Any way! We have B2B (sort of) in March and hope everything is sorted by then. Including not needing a test to return to Canada if vaccinated, perhaps a test at the airport? But who knows what will happen. I have my fingers crossed, and don't have to pay in full until December so hopefully by then things will be in better shape. Or at least enough to make a decision, I have Disney booked as a backup in case we can't cruise. I mean it will be a nice vacation any way, but a cruise is what I want to do!

Those home testing kits look interesting but aren't available in Canada yet. And the testing to return home is still the issue, on site/on board don't appear to be available or an option that would work for Canada. Some airports have them but even those can't be guaranteed in time. The Walgreens tests and such, can be booked but may not be back in time. It's all a lot of hoops for sure. I hope the rules change by then. At least we don't have to quarantine on return.

So far, all my research led me to this: As long as Travel Advisories for cruises are at Level 4, no insurance company will cover us.

And all the testing requirements for Canada make things even more complicated.

But yeah, as you said, at least quarantine isn't mandatory anymore.

Update: I have finally found one company that would cover cruises. If things don't get better until January, we will most likely pick that one.
 
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We fly out tomorrow for the 1st part of our trip (going to a wedding first) and fly to Seattle on Sunday. We actually sail on Tuesday, 9/14, so we have to test anytime between Sunday-Tuesday. I have *heard* that Carnival has set up rapid testing facilities at the Seattle terminal at the cost of $150 pp. And I think you can go the day before to test. It's not ideal, but it's cheaper than what the Seattle airport is charging and at least it's an option as a last resort. Rapid tests are becoming increasingly hard to come by.

DH & I bought the home testing kits (telehealth monitored) that both CCL & RCCL accept. It seems like many people in our FB group have done the same. We're going to test tonight just to know how it works and if we happen to test positive, we'll be absolutely devastated, but at least we know before we go. If we're in the clear, we'll test first thing Sunday before our flight. Knowing me and my anxiety level about this, I'll probably be wide awake testing at 12:01AM on Sunday. I just got an email this morning and it says they will accept a "lab health record, digital certificate or healthcare record" for test results. Our results are delivered to an app, but I believe they can be emailed and printed, so I plan to have both.

Hopefully, I can provide more accurate updates in a few weeks!

I hope everything will be okay and you can cruise. :)
 
We fly out tomorrow for the 1st part of our trip (going to a wedding first) and fly to Seattle on Sunday. We actually sail on Tuesday, 9/14, so we have to test anytime between Sunday-Tuesday. I have *heard* that Carnival has set up rapid testing facilities at the Seattle terminal at the cost of $150 pp. And I think you can go the day before to test. It's not ideal, but it's cheaper than what the Seattle airport is charging and at least it's an option as a last resort. Rapid tests are becoming increasingly hard to come by.

DH & I bought the home testing kits (telehealth monitored) that both CCL & RCCL accept. It seems like many people in our FB group have done the same. We're going to test tonight just to know how it works and if we happen to test positive, we'll be absolutely devastated, but at least we know before we go. If we're in the clear, we'll test first thing Sunday before our flight. Knowing me and my anxiety level about this, I'll probably be wide awake testing at 12:01AM on Sunday. I just got an email this morning and it says they will accept a "lab health record, digital certificate or healthcare record" for test results. Our results are delivered to an app, but I believe they can be emailed and printed, so I plan to have both.

Hopefully, I can provide more accurate updates in a few weeks!

Thinking of you today. Hope everything went well with testing! :)
 
We are home from Alaska! We had an absolutely amazing time-such an overall different feeling than anything in the Caribbean. DH thinks it might be the best trip he's ever taken.

I will try to make a longer post with some more details about covid testing/embarkation, the ship, ports, etc. but please feel free to ask any questions and I can try to answer the best I can!
 


We are home from Alaska! We had an absolutely amazing time-such an overall different feeling than anything in the Caribbean. DH thinks it might be the best trip he's ever taken.

I will try to make a longer post with some more details about covid testing/embarkation, the ship, ports, etc. but please feel free to ask any questions and I can try to answer the best I can!

Welcome back! Can't wait to know more about your experience!
 
Jet lag is real y'all! We didn't realize that Alaska is a 4 hour time difference (1 hour change on the ship) and it's crazy how much it throws you off. OK just some quick notes:

We learned from multiple sources that the ship was sailing at just under 70% capacity. I believe she holds around 2500 and had 1700 sailing. It was definitely an older crowd as well!

-COVID testing: DH & I used the accepted home test through the emed.com website. Zero problems. Very easy to use and results were delivered instantly. I had our digital copies and printed off hard copies just in case. It states digital is accepted, but I had hard copies of everything! Would use these tests again and recommend to anyone else looking to cruise.

-Embarkation: Took longer than normal, but nothing crazy. They were very strict about arrival windows. We had an 11-11:30AM window and were actually a bit late, but we saw others being held back in line until their windows opened. Porters will still very much available for luggage. We lined up outside where ALL of our documents were looked at the first time, then we joined a line inside where everything was looked at (and scanned/highlighted/whatever) again. Then you were sent upstairs through security and joined the "regular" check in line, where photos were taken. There was still a photo op (masks could be removed) and you boarded the ship!

-Muster: This change was amazing and really well done. As soon as you set foot on the ship, they IMMEDIATELY sent you to your muster station. We did not even get into the atrium before going to our station (it just happened to be close by). It took all of 2 minutes for the crew member to demonstrate the life jacket and then we were sent on our way.

-Masks: Masks were required walking into/out of dinner and the buffet, in the main theater, shops, elevators, and comedy theater. Everywhere else were signs encouraging masks, but I was really amazed at how many people wore them everywhere inside. You truly very rarely saw anyone walking around inside without one. From what I could see in our ports, masks were required in shops and restaurants.

-Activities: Everything seemed back to normal for the most part! I didn't notice anything missing. Performers and comedians did not wear masks. The trivia crew members didn't either, but they kept a wide area around them clear of guests.

The Miracle was laid out differently than any Carnival ship I've been on. Not in a bad way necessarily, just different!

Noticeable things: The Serenity deck was lovely and I wish it was set up this way on other ships. It was large, tons of seating, big bar, and had it's own pool and hot tub.
There were 3 decent sized pools and hot tubs on the ship - Serenity deck, and 2 more pool areas back to back in the middle of Lido. One pool was closed in/covered, and the most forward one was entirely open. It was a pretty nice set up overall.
The steakhouse was on deck 10, directly under the funnel. So the lower part of the funnel was glass and opened up to the sky. The effect was really beautiful.
The ship is "literature" themed, which I loved. I just don't think some of the spaces were well utilized. There was a Gatsby's Garden promenade which was lovely, but so tucked away at the front of the ship with nothing around it, it was wasted.
The Alchemy Bar area (my fave!) was very large and had tons of seating. It was very well utilized every night!
Why are there still huge art galleries? I want to meet the people buying enough art to justify this space.

The casino location was a big negative for me. It took up the entire width of the deck so you had to walk directly though it to get to the main theater, the sports bar, Redfrog pub, coffee shop, etc. To bypass it, you'd have to go up a floor, cross over, and come back down. Luckily, the smoke smells didn't seem to permeate through other spaces, but it wasn't the greatest set up. And there was no more using the casino as just smoking area. You had to be actively playing. You couldn't even sit at the bar. So that was a small relief. Fortunately, I don't think many ships are like that anymore and for good reason.
Also, I was amazed by how busy the casino was at all times. I think the older crowd had a lot to do with it for sure. That place was packed 24 hours a day. DH & I were incredulous when we saw people literally sitting at slot machines 30+ minutes before leaving port, just waiting for them to turn on.

Ports: All of them were incredible. The day spent sailing through the fjord to Dawes Glacier was beyond beautiful. Alaska has a different type of beauty-it just feels wild and rugged and unforgiving. I don't think people just end up living in Alaska. It's a location you have to want to be. And definitely a place to see if you can.

Overall, a wonderful time. In terms of ships though, I told DH I am definitely ready to try a newer and larger ship. I'm thinking Horizon or Mardi Gras, and Southern Caribbean. Although, that Iceland cruise in 2022 is looking pretty fabulous as well!
 


Jet lag is real y'all! We didn't realize that Alaska is a 4 hour time difference (1 hour change on the ship) and it's crazy how much it throws you off. OK just some quick notes:

We learned from multiple sources that the ship was sailing at just under 70% capacity. I believe she holds around 2500 and had 1700 sailing. It was definitely an older crowd as well!

-COVID testing: DH & I used the accepted home test through the emed.com website. Zero problems. Very easy to use and results were delivered instantly. I had our digital copies and printed off hard copies just in case. It states digital is accepted, but I had hard copies of everything! Would use these tests again and recommend to anyone else looking to cruise.

-Embarkation: Took longer than normal, but nothing crazy. They were very strict about arrival windows. We had an 11-11:30AM window and were actually a bit late, but we saw others being held back in line until their windows opened. Porters will still very much available for luggage. We lined up outside where ALL of our documents were looked at the first time, then we joined a line inside where everything was looked at (and scanned/highlighted/whatever) again. Then you were sent upstairs through security and joined the "regular" check in line, where photos were taken. There was still a photo op (masks could be removed) and you boarded the ship!

-Muster: This change was amazing and really well done. As soon as you set foot on the ship, they IMMEDIATELY sent you to your muster station. We did not even get into the atrium before going to our station (it just happened to be close by). It took all of 2 minutes for the crew member to demonstrate the life jacket and then we were sent on our way.

-Masks: Masks were required walking into/out of dinner and the buffet, in the main theater, shops, elevators, and comedy theater. Everywhere else were signs encouraging masks, but I was really amazed at how many people wore them everywhere inside. You truly very rarely saw anyone walking around inside without one. From what I could see in our ports, masks were required in shops and restaurants.

-Activities: Everything seemed back to normal for the most part! I didn't notice anything missing. Performers and comedians did not wear masks. The trivia crew members didn't either, but they kept a wide area around them clear of guests.

The Miracle was laid out differently than any Carnival ship I've been on. Not in a bad way necessarily, just different!

Noticeable things: The Serenity deck was lovely and I wish it was set up this way on other ships. It was large, tons of seating, big bar, and had it's own pool and hot tub.
There were 3 decent sized pools and hot tubs on the ship - Serenity deck, and 2 more pool areas back to back in the middle of Lido. One pool was closed in/covered, and the most forward one was entirely open. It was a pretty nice set up overall.
The steakhouse was on deck 10, directly under the funnel. So the lower part of the funnel was glass and opened up to the sky. The effect was really beautiful.
The ship is "literature" themed, which I loved. I just don't think some of the spaces were well utilized. There was a Gatsby's Garden promenade which was lovely, but so tucked away at the front of the ship with nothing around it, it was wasted.
The Alchemy Bar area (my fave!) was very large and had tons of seating. It was very well utilized every night!
Why are there still huge art galleries? I want to meet the people buying enough art to justify this space.

The casino location was a big negative for me. It took up the entire width of the deck so you had to walk directly though it to get to the main theater, the sports bar, Redfrog pub, coffee shop, etc. To bypass it, you'd have to go up a floor, cross over, and come back down. Luckily, the smoke smells didn't seem to permeate through other spaces, but it wasn't the greatest set up. And there was no more using the casino as just smoking area. You had to be actively playing. You couldn't even sit at the bar. So that was a small relief. Fortunately, I don't think many ships are like that anymore and for good reason.
Also, I was amazed by how busy the casino was at all times. I think the older crowd had a lot to do with it for sure. That place was packed 24 hours a day. DH & I were incredulous when we saw people literally sitting at slot machines 30+ minutes before leaving port, just waiting for them to turn on.

Ports: All of them were incredible. The day spent sailing through the fjord to Dawes Glacier was beyond beautiful. Alaska has a different type of beauty-it just feels wild and rugged and unforgiving. I don't think people just end up living in Alaska. It's a location you have to want to be. And definitely a place to see if you can.

Overall, a wonderful time. In terms of ships though, I told DH I am definitely ready to try a newer and larger ship. I'm thinking Horizon or Mardi Gras, and Southern Caribbean. Although, that Iceland cruise in 2022 is looking pretty fabulous as well!

Thank you for your review. How did it feel to be back on a ship after all this time?
 
Thank you for your review. How did it feel to be back on a ship after all this time?

It truly felt amazing. Everyone, from the guests to the crew members, seemed upbeat, positive, and just thankful to be back on a ship. So many guests that we talked to had another 2, 3, 4 5+ cruises already booked, some even had that many for just the remainder of this year! (So jealous!)

In terms of safety & health, I honestly felt completely at ease as well. Crew members were constantly cleaning EVERYTHING. Guests themselves were great at wearing masks (although I would like to compare to a warmer weather cruise), the vast majority of guests were vaxxed (actually I think ours was 100%), hand sanitizer everywhere, etc. I'm very sure it was a safer location than our local Walmart or mall or grocery store.

Would not hesitate to cruise again!
 
Got an email from CCL with some AMAZING offers. As in cruises starting at $25 for the rest of 2021. Looks like Christmas cruises are topping out at $200. Pretty sure they're casino offers, which is funny because I don't think I've ever spent more than $10 in any ship casino, but I'm not going to argue. :laughing:

We're limited on dates now due to using up most of our vacation time for the year, but I would love to cruise over Thanksgiving or Christmas. It would be a hard sell for DH though. It's extremely hard for him to break with tradition. And lord knows I would never hear the end of it from my MIL.

Don't think I'm ready to cruise solo (though I would absolutely hit WDW by myself!), but these offers are making it tough to say no!
 
Got an email from CCL with some AMAZING offers. As in cruises starting at $25 for the rest of 2021. Looks like Christmas cruises are topping out at $200. Pretty sure they're casino offers, which is funny because I don't think I've ever spent more than $10 in any ship casino, but I'm not going to argue. :laughing:

We're limited on dates now due to using up most of our vacation time for the year, but I would love to cruise over Thanksgiving or Christmas. It would be a hard sell for DH though. It's extremely hard for him to break with tradition. And lord knows I would never hear the end of it from my MIL.

Don't think I'm ready to cruise solo (though I would absolutely hit WDW by myself!), but these offers are making it tough to say no!

Wow. If it wasn’t for the expensive mandatory COVID testing and lack of insurance coverage…At those prices I would vacation once a month for the rest of the year. LOL
 
I see Carnival has posted their directions for cruises to the end of February, still needing testing 2 days prior and vaccinations (no mixed for Canadians). My Carnival cruise is in August, I hope the testing requirements will be gone by then, for cruising and flying...
 
Wow. If it wasn’t for the expensive mandatory COVID testing and lack of insurance coverage…At those prices I would vacation once a month for the rest of the year. LOL

Right? If we lived near a cruise port we'd be cruising every weekend!

I see Carnival has posted their directions for cruises to the end of February, still needing testing 2 days prior and vaccinations (no mixed for Canadians). My Carnival cruise is in August, I hope the testing requirements will be gone by then, for cruising and flying...

Ugh I was hoping they would drop the 2 day testing requirements by then. If we don't take advantage of these 2021 offers (which looks like we won't), DH mentioned he'd like to cruise with a few other couples in February. I don't know if some are vaxxed, which itself is a problem, but the testing makes it even trickier for a larger group. And since I'm always the planner of everything, it's just another thing to stress over.
 
Ugh I was hoping they would drop the 2 day testing requirements by then. If we don't take advantage of these 2021 offers (which looks like we won't), DH mentioned he'd like to cruise with a few other couples in February. I don't know if some are vaxxed, which itself is a problem, but the testing makes it even trickier for a larger group. And since I'm always the planner of everything, it's just another thing to stress over.

the testing a PITA for sure. I mean we have to test to fly to the US, but it's the antigen test we can use, which is not as invasive, and we need it 3 days before we fly, we also tend to fly day before a cruise, so when do we get the test for cruising? I think we can get one the day before we fly, but it will cost significantly more in order to get it fast to use for flying and cruising... makes my head spin. Never mind the test we then need to fly home again at the end (72 hours before we fly home... so we have to stay an extra day or 3?) Hoops...
 
the testing a PITA for sure. I mean we have to test to fly to the US, but it's the antigen test we can use, which is not as invasive, and we need it 3 days before we fly, we also tend to fly day before a cruise, so when do we get the test for cruising? I think we can get one the day before we fly, but it will cost significantly more in order to get it fast to use for flying and cruising... makes my head spin. Never mind the test we then need to fly home again at the end (72 hours before we fly home... so we have to stay an extra day or 3?) Hoops...

THIS.

At this point, we all agreed to pay whatever extra we need to pay... just to simplify things and get the one with the results in 1 hour. Otherwise, it would be soooo stressful.

Praying for Canada to relax the measures a bit. Since Air Canada (and other Airlines) will require everyone that flies to be vaccinated, maybe they could let go of the mandatory testing before flying back?

Other than that, I wish Carnival would accept mixed vaccines. I love that our cruise will most likely be fully vaccinated, I just hope the 2nd/3rd dose criterias will fit whatever is available to us in Canada.
 
It looks like the last week has brought us some good news like Grand Turk welcoming cruise ships again in December (this one makes my family very happy)…

… and the USA welcoming fully vaccinated foreigners (and mixed vaccines!)… without COVID test (now, if only Canada would do the same, this would simplify our return home) …

I wonder if testing will still be mandatory before boarding the ships? I kinda wish they would remove them completely when you are vaccinated.

Update: I asked John Heald today and it looks like mandatory testing is there to stay (at least for a while). At least we know and we can plan accordingly.
 
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I am very happy about the mixed vaccine news, hopefully the cruise lines will all update their rules for that sooner than later. We go to Disney in 9 days and I was planning on a second Pfizer but if I don't need it that would be nice. We don't cruise until March and it is on Royal, which is ok since they currently offer pcr test for travel if needed. Carnival is in August, hopefully by then we won't need it, but we will be cruising from New York and staying a few days post cruise so can work something out if necessary. I am just so happy that travel is becoming more possible for us again.

Now to work on kiddos flight anxiety, it was getting better but no trips for over two years and we are back to him being worried and getting sick. Hopefully not causing any problems on the flights.
 
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