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A hospital now wants new parents….

...but she did say that it’s the exact one that all of the adult patients fill out upon admission...
Then it sounds like it's just a placeholder - the system has that box for adults, and they don't want to have to do a new form every few years, so they leave it blank for now and update in the computer as the patient ages.
 
I’m flabbergasted about the sexual orientation of the newborn, not the gender 🤔

Again, I don't believe it's meant to be filled out at birth. Left blank and then filled out as an adult if wanted. But why? I don't know.
 
I work at a hospital in NJ. You can leave any part of any form blank. You aren’t required to fill out everything if you don’t feel comfortable. I’m sure they have one blanket form for everyone instead of printing multiple forms. There are enough forms on the floors already. No need to add another.
 


Besides the whole mechanics of the actual form, I’m wondering why the hospital (or state of NJ, or Vital Statistics) decided to even ask about a newborn’s sexual orientation. These forms are fairly new (apparently in the past six months). Why wouldn’t there be a specific one for newborns?
They didn't. They updated their forms to be more inclusive of adults, they simply didn't create a newborn specific form. Why would they? What a waste of paper and time. Specially if the only dif between them is a few boxes.

It feels like you want to make it into a big deal, when it's simply for easier logistics.
 


I’m in NJ, so many practices and now in big groups. The first time I had to fill out a form for myself and older child it was insane. It was online, and it was asking me how many ounces my child was drinking, if he was sleeping through the night, if he was rolling over, hundreds of questions that there were no answers. I was asked the first day of my first period (I’m in my 50’s). I finally figured out that any questions that could apply to literally anyone was being asked, many were not applicable. Unfortunately I figured it out after becoming frustrated and I started answering the questions with humor. When I finally figured out I figured they were going to think I’m a nutcase.
 
I’m in NJ, so many practices and now in big groups. The first time I had to fill out a form for myself and older child it was insane. It was online, and it was asking me how many ounces my child was drinking, if he was sleeping through the night, if he was rolling over, hundreds of questions that there were no answers. I was asked the first day of my first period (I’m in my 50’s). I finally figured out that any questions that could apply to literally anyone was being asked, many were not applicable. Unfortunately I figured it out after becoming frustrated and I started answering the questions with humor. When I finally figured out I figured they were going to think I’m a nutcase.
Maybe they need a "fill out what applies" instruction. Silly form.
 
I’m in NJ too.

Without researching my first reaction is has something to do with mistakes made in the past. I know when people of my generation were born with any gender ambiguity, parents were advised to just choose one and stick with it and occasionally included taking something out trying to have everything align from very early as a baby. This gave no regard for how the individual felt, they were just a clueless baby not even old enough to talk. Putting a dress on a baby doesn’t mean they are going to grow up feeling like a girl.

This isn’t an easy topic. We are all still learning what’s the best way forward and help people be their true selves however nature intended. There is room for everybody.
 
It feels like you want to make it into a big deal, when it's simply for easier logistics.
I’m really not. I’ve been on this forum for over a decade and rarely start a post. This form that includes asking about the sexual orientation of the newborn seemed quite odd to me. The fact that the clerk is supposed to give it to the parents along with the birth certificate paperwork seems to be specifically aimed at identifying the baby, for whatever reason.

I don’t understand why someone can’t post something to seek more opinions and information without there being some sort of hidden agenda 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
I learned the difference between gender and sex way more than a decade ago lol, can't be serious.
Sure, maybe it started more than a decade ago, but not too long before that.. there were gender reveal parties, & if that fits into what you're saying then i'm confused.
What is the difference, & when do you think they started being different? or are you saying they've always been different? (i can guarantee every form i filled out as a kid asked my gender, & you checked a box that said male or female)

edit to add, obviously i didn't know or understand there was a difference (until a decade or so ago), so that's what i'm asking, when i say when did they become different, maybe i should be asking when did it become an issue or a topic that was reinforced.
 
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A hospital now wants new parents…. to identify their newborn’s sexual orientation. My friend’s job requires each patient to complete a form about their own Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, but now it also requires the birth certificate clerk to have new parents complete a form asking for the newborn’s sex assigned at birth (I understand that), gender identity (I can see that for babies that are hemaphrodites) and sexual orientation 😳.

New parents are supposed to say whether their one day old baby is straight, bisexual, gay, lesbian or pansexual 🤷🏻‍♀️

How exactly does one do that?

^^^ vs vvv

I’m really not. I’ve been on this forum for over a decade and rarely start a post. This form that includes asking about the sexual orientation of the newborn seemed quite odd to me. The fact that the clerk is supposed to give it to the parents along with the birth certificate paperwork seems to be specifically aimed at identifying the baby, for whatever reason.

I don’t understand why someone can’t post something to seek more opinions and information without there being some sort of hidden agenda 🤷🏻‍♀️

2 very different angles.
 
Sure, maybe it started more than a decade ago, but not too long before that.. there were gender reveal parties, & if that fits into what you're saying then i'm confused.
What is the difference, & when do you think they started being different? or are you saying they've always been different? (i can guarantee every form i filled out as a kid asked my gender, & you checked a box that said male or female)

edit to add, obviously i didn't know or understand there was a difference (until a decade or so ago), so that's what i'm asking, when i say when did they become different, maybe i should be asking when did it become an issue or a topic that was reinforced.
They really started to be differentiated in the 50s/60s.
 
A Google Search found this article

https://www.fastcompany.com/9088429...t-their-race-ethnicity-and-sexual-orientation


04-20-23HACKENSACK MERIDIAN HEALTH



BY ROBERT C. GARRETT FOR HACKENSACK MERIDIAN HEALTH
4 MINUTE READ
Sharing your medical history can lead to some highly personal conversations in a hospital or physician’s office, but full disclosure is necessary to achieve the best health.


There’s another equally important request you should expect from your healthcare provider: questions about your race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, and gender identity. Collecting this demographic data is a priority for our health network and many other health systems throughout the nation so that we can provide culturally competent care and address unacceptable gaps that impact far too many people.

Black women are three times more likely to die from a pregnancy-related cause than white women in the U.S., according to the CDC.
Nearly half of Hispanic Americans say they don’t have access to quality medical care where they live, and 44% say that problems from language or cultural differences are a major reason why they have worse health outcomes than other adults, according to the Pew Research Center.
1 in 8 LGBTQ+ people live in a state where healthcare providers can legally refuse to treat them based on religious grounds, according to the Movement Advancement Project, an LGBTQ+ think tank.
ACCESSING FOCUSED DATA
Advances in healthcare are not limited to developing a blockbuster drug or implementing new robotic or diagnostic tools, as welcome as these are. An organization’s deep understanding of the needs of all communities is also at the center of real change in patient outcomes and well-being. This is why we get personal. We believe that access to high-quality healthcare—no matter where you live, the color of your skin, or who you love—is everyone’s right. And we can’t tackle this problem without having credible and timely data.

Be it sexual orientation, gender, age, race, or ethnicity, these factors present an opportunity for us to individualize our plans of care and create initiatives that promote health and wellness within whole populations of patients. And keep in mind that while members of our care team will access this information, it will be kept highly confidential as mandated by regulatory and privacy requirements.

In practical terms, here are a few examples of how health systems are making progress:

The Human Rights Campaign Foundation’s Healthcare Equality Index, a national benchmarking tool that evaluates health system policies and practices regarding the LGBTQ+ community, reports that more than 900 hospitals in the U.S. are embracing inclusive practices. These practices include staff sensitivity training, gender-neutral bathrooms, or the creation of specialized clinics for youth or adult transgender patients. I’m proud of our team at Hackensack Meridian Health, where 13 of our hospitals received top honors as a “leader” or as being “high performing.”
Hospitals first created new services to address cultural, ethnic and other specialized needs years ago, but these programs continue to expand to meet the needs of growing and diverse populations. Kaiser Permanente, one of the nation’s largest systems, operates the Latino Health Center, which provides bilingual services, greater access to care, and targeted screenings. UC San Francisco’s Asian Heart and Vascular Center provides specialists who can understand, communicate about, and treat heart disease and who also engage in research to better understand the metabolic and genetic differences of the Asian community.
To improve maternal health and target racial disparities in outcomes, Hackensack Meridian Health has made major strides in reducing prenatal and postpartum hemorrhage. In the U.S., Black women are almost more than two times as likely than white women to die of hemorrhage or embolism. Because of our many advances, Hackensack University Medical Center, our network’s academic flagship hospital, is the first in the nation to earn the Joint Commission’s Gold Seal of Approval for Advanced Certification in Perinatal Care.
In addition, we have begun removing the requirement for a prescription to undergo a mammogram. Black women are 40% more likely than white women to die from breast cancer, even though the cancer incidence rate among Black and white women is approximately the same. Reducing barriers to screening will no doubt save lives.
COMPREHENSIVE, CONSTRUCTIVE CARE
Our mission as New Jersey’s largest health system is to transform healthcare and we cannot achieve our goal if we don’t continue to improve outcomes and experiences for all patients. We can never forget that healthcare is more than statistics; it’s about people and their hopes and dreams and desire to be treated with dignity. I came across a moving quote included in the Healthcare Equality Index national report. A transgender woman undergoing her first physical in years described her experience. “When I walked toward the women’s bathroom in the waiting area, the receptionist jumped up and told me to use a McDonald’s restroom down the street. I felt like leaving and never going back.” This unfortunate incident is a powerful reminder of why we are on this journey.

Robert C. Garrett, FACHE, is the CEO of Hackensack Meridian Health, New Jersey’s largest health system, with 18 hospitals, more than 500 patient care locations, and the Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine
 
A Google Search found this article

https://www.fastcompany.com/9088429...t-their-race-ethnicity-and-sexual-orientation


04-20-23HACKENSACK MERIDIAN HEALTH



BY ROBERT C. GARRETT FOR HACKENSACK MERIDIAN HEALTH
4 MINUTE READ
Sharing your medical history can lead to some highly personal conversations in a hospital or physician’s office, but full disclosure is necessary to achieve the best health.


There’s another equally important request you should expect from your healthcare provider: questions about your race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, and gender identity. Collecting this demographic data is a priority for our health network and many other health systems throughout the nation so that we can provide culturally competent care and address unacceptable gaps that impact far too many people.

Black women are three times more likely to die from a pregnancy-related cause than white women in the U.S., according to the CDC.
Nearly half of Hispanic Americans say they don’t have access to quality medical care where they live, and 44% say that problems from language or cultural differences are a major reason why they have worse health outcomes than other adults, according to the Pew Research Center.
1 in 8 LGBTQ+ people live in a state where healthcare providers can legally refuse to treat them based on religious grounds, according to the Movement Advancement Project, an LGBTQ+ think tank.
ACCESSING FOCUSED DATA
Advances in healthcare are not limited to developing a blockbuster drug or implementing new robotic or diagnostic tools, as welcome as these are. An organization’s deep understanding of the needs of all communities is also at the center of real change in patient outcomes and well-being. This is why we get personal. We believe that access to high-quality healthcare—no matter where you live, the color of your skin, or who you love—is everyone’s right. And we can’t tackle this problem without having credible and timely data.

Be it sexual orientation, gender, age, race, or ethnicity, these factors present an opportunity for us to individualize our plans of care and create initiatives that promote health and wellness within whole populations of patients. And keep in mind that while members of our care team will access this information, it will be kept highly confidential as mandated by regulatory and privacy requirements.

In practical terms, here are a few examples of how health systems are making progress:

The Human Rights Campaign Foundation’s Healthcare Equality Index, a national benchmarking tool that evaluates health system policies and practices regarding the LGBTQ+ community, reports that more than 900 hospitals in the U.S. are embracing inclusive practices. These practices include staff sensitivity training, gender-neutral bathrooms, or the creation of specialized clinics for youth or adult transgender patients. I’m proud of our team at Hackensack Meridian Health, where 13 of our hospitals received top honors as a “leader” or as being “high performing.”
Hospitals first created new services to address cultural, ethnic and other specialized needs years ago, but these programs continue to expand to meet the needs of growing and diverse populations. Kaiser Permanente, one of the nation’s largest systems, operates the Latino Health Center, which provides bilingual services, greater access to care, and targeted screenings. UC San Francisco’s Asian Heart and Vascular Center provides specialists who can understand, communicate about, and treat heart disease and who also engage in research to better understand the metabolic and genetic differences of the Asian community.
To improve maternal health and target racial disparities in outcomes, Hackensack Meridian Health has made major strides in reducing prenatal and postpartum hemorrhage. In the U.S., Black women are almost more than two times as likely than white women to die of hemorrhage or embolism. Because of our many advances, Hackensack University Medical Center, our network’s academic flagship hospital, is the first in the nation to earn the Joint Commission’s Gold Seal of Approval for Advanced Certification in Perinatal Care.
In addition, we have begun removing the requirement for a prescription to undergo a mammogram. Black women are 40% more likely than white women to die from breast cancer, even though the cancer incidence rate among Black and white women is approximately the same. Reducing barriers to screening will no doubt save lives.
COMPREHENSIVE, CONSTRUCTIVE CARE
Our mission as New Jersey’s largest health system is to transform healthcare and we cannot achieve our goal if we don’t continue to improve outcomes and experiences for all patients. We can never forget that healthcare is more than statistics; it’s about people and their hopes and dreams and desire to be treated with dignity. I came across a moving quote included in the Healthcare Equality Index national report. A transgender woman undergoing her first physical in years described her experience. “When I walked toward the women’s bathroom in the waiting area, the receptionist jumped up and told me to use a McDonald’s restroom down the street. I felt like leaving and never going back.” This unfortunate incident is a powerful reminder of why we are on this journey.

Robert C. Garrett, FACHE, is the CEO of Hackensack Meridian Health, New Jersey’s largest health system, with 18 hospitals, more than 500 patient care locations, and the Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine
Hackensack Hospital was where my children were born over 2 decades ago. I felt very fortunate receiving care there.
 

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