Another Tipping Thread. These Are Always Fun

[Kae]

Not in NYC, they don’t.

That's horrible & the laws should be checked because I bet places get away with it because people don't know or check. Or are to afraid to speak up.

 

[mjkacmom]

When a server is doing work that is not Serving they make a different wage.

Not in NJ, servers gets paid $2.13 an hour, and spend time not serving.

 

[NYCgrrl]

That's horrible & the laws should be checked because I bet places get away with it because people don't know or check. Or are to afraid to speak up.

Anything is possible but that is the law here .

 

[DisneYE]

ya as others have said, tipping it's out of control.
I'm an avid baseball fan and go to ballparks often. When I go get a beer or soda at the park, there's a tip jar..
You're just handing me the $10-12 can from the fridge. You expect a tip? I'll tip, but don't force it on me.
It's not like you're concocting a drink like at bars. I tip $2 per drink when at bars. But what is the beer attendant doing other than handing out cans of drinks?

The thing that drives me nuts is this:
Nowadays more and more ppl pay by card (debit/credit), me included. so when I pay for that $12 beer the machine will prompt to tip 20/22/25% with those squares on the screen. You can either click on one of those or click "no tip"
I always click on 20 but still... don't force me to pay whatever you deem is appropriate.
You can't just "tap" the card and walk away. You tap and then forced to tip. Bonkers.

 

[Lehuaann]

Being a stylist I can somewhat explain this, as me and my coworkers all had to raise our prices this year. Yes, some, not all of our clients gave extra to help us out and boy were we grateful, but that one time gift, while a blessing at the time, was not enough to make up for the clients we lost that didn't come back. I have one that still won't leave her house. I had one that told me she thought I wasn't going to re-open so she found a new salon. Just those two, off of the top of my head, equals a loss of about $115 a month for me. I raised the price of color by $2. I make about $300 a week less now than I did before covid, even with the price hike.

I’m sorry to hear that. I would gladly pay more for my stylist. So much goes into what you do. Your products are expensive and can be hard to obtain during a pandemic. And you work by appointment-only, which can last hours. $2 extra for color is nothing.

This is a walk-in all-male barbershop: hair-clippers, no product, 10-15 min. They worked out of their garages during lockdown.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

What if it's take out from a place like Moe's or Chipotle? I don't think there even is an option to tip when you eat in, but it does ask in the app if you want to tip.

With quick service places (including Starbucks), if I'm picking up, I usually just throw some cash into the tip jars they usually have on the counters. Quick service places like Moe's and Chipotle don't make their employees rely on tips for their wages; they are paid at least minimum wage, so tips at these places are actual 'tips'. I've never run into an employee at a QS who reports their tips as wages. If I don't have cash, I'll leave a small tip on the app, most of the time.

Restaurants like Chili's or Appleby's are considered full service, and in many states, expect the tips the servers make to make up the greater amount of the wage that servers are paid. Servers have to report tips, so they are taxed on them, as the tips are part of their wages. They even pay taxes on the 'tip-out' portion of their tips (those tips that are given to busboys and cooks, who do not usually report those tips for taxation).

 

[Kae]

Anything is possible but that is the law here .

I would so double check to be sure. If true so sad and ridiculous, shame on your local and state government.

 

[disney4us2002]

We are overtippers. I am so beyond thrilled that anyone else is cooking and serving that I will gladly give a large tip. I don't know that we've done the math to give a percentage but say the check is $50, we've been known to throw a $20 on the table. We also have found a flat $10 tip on a pizza delivery (usually under $30) will result in a hot and quick delivery.

 

[Lehuaann]

We are overtippers. I am so beyond thrilled that anyone else is cooking and serving that I will gladly give a large tip. I don't know that we've done the math to give a percentage but say the check is $50, we've been known to throw a $20 on the table. We also have found a flat $10 tip on a pizza delivery (usually under $30) will result in a hot and quick delivery.

We do the same. However, the lines are becoming somewhat blurred (drive through, walk-up counters). We tip anyway, definitely restaurant to-go.

 

[sam_gordon]

We also have found a flat $10 tip on a pizza delivery (usually under $30) will result in a hot and quick delivery.

Do you order so much pizza they know you're going to tip that much or do you tell them ahead of time you're going to tip that much?

If they don't know you're going to tip that much until they show up, how does it result in a hot and quick delivery?

 

[mrodgers]

The standard moves as it always has. Use to be 10%. Then 15. Then 18, now 20. They are trying to increase the standard by labeling it at 22% now. Eventually given the saturation in our optics of that 22% number, it will become standard.

When I joined this board, standard tip was 18% and they were starting to put 20% on the bill. Now the standard is 20%. Tomorrow it will be 22%.

 

[Moliphino]

I am going to an all inclusive this summer in Playa Del Carmen. The entire tipping thing is has been an educational process. I didn't know there were so many people who are supposed to be tipped. One in particular the fridge stocker.

They should teach it in school, 'cause I have no idea once you get away from restaurants and hair dressers. I boarded my dog a few weeks ago and there was a tip option on the receipt. Are you supposed to tip for boarding? Or is that more meant for grooming (also offered there)? Or training? There was no tip line at a different kennel where I take the dog for day care and they also do boarding and grooming.

 

[rotlex]

I agree with some that the tipping is out of control. We have a few local restaurants whose checks state 22-28%. Ya no. 20 tops. Sorry, but when a tip starts becoming 1/4 of the bill it's just not happening.

As a side note, for bartenders, I find it odd that people lump them in with the wait staff. I used to be one, and, at least back in my day, you were paid fairly well plus your tips. I made $8 per hour at the club I worked for back in the 90's and made a ton on tips too. Really was never a big deal to me if I handed someone a bottle of beer and got no tip for it. Didn't even expect it.

 

[NotUrsula]

Here's why I never go back to a place that charges me a "Living Wage Surcharge" ...

It isn't because I was surprised by it, and it isn't because I don't like costs being passed on to me; it's because I believe that anyone who is so cheap as to publicly do that probably begrudges every cent that their employees earn, and furthermore, almost surely reminds them of that every hour of every day. That person, IMO, deserves to go out of business for being a bad manager.

If you have to raise your prices due to rising labor costs, then fine, post a statement about it and that's that. If you really can't manage on what the place is earning, then change your menu a bit to reset your other costs, but do not put it on your customers to decide what your employees' base pay should be. It's rude to your customers AND to your employees.

 

[RedAngie]

The standard moves as it always has. Use to be 10%. Then 15. Then 18, now 20. They are trying to increase the standard by labeling it at 22% now. Eventually given the saturation in our optics of that 22% number, it will become standard.

When I joined this board, standard tip was 18% and they were starting to put 20% on the bill. Now the standard is 20%. Tomorrow it will be 22%.

My father was a long time 10% tipper. That’s how it was when he was younger and by golly that’s how it should still be. I’m not sure when the standard was raised from 10%, and it took my mother several years to convince him to increase to 15%. But he refused to budge after that. He died in 2015 still a 15 percenter. I’m pretty sure the standard had been 18% for at least several years by that point.

My grandfather lived with us the last few years of his life. He was a $1 tipper and thought that was generous even when 4 of us went out to eat and the bill was $40 or more. He died in 1983.

 

[disney4us2002]

Do you order so much pizza they know you're going to tip that much or do you tell them ahead of time you're going to tip that much?

If they don't know you're going to tip that much until they show up, how does it result in a hot and quick delivery?

Sorry, that wasn't clear. Online Dominos pizza ordering allows you to enter a tip amount. You can also pick a percentage or none presumably to tip in cash at the door.

 

[jo-jo]

My mother in law used to say old people didn't have to tip as much. We sit down and she would almost yell at the server "give me the bill" The server would rush us through the meal. After the bill was paid, as we left, DH would lag behind and leave extra cash on table.

I also think the tip for everything is crazy. We had to have an outlet put in (old oven was hard wired) after quoting price, did the work, here's the bill, and oh no pressure, but you can add a tip on that page.

How far does this go....few months ago we spent thousands on a new roof. Were we suppose to add a few grand for a tip?

I did supply coffee/ water and fresh baked cookies. For someone working on MY house, I always felt happy worker = good worker.

When we were looking for roofer, guy said did you have this done about 30 years ago, yeah, was it done by XYZ, yeah.......I was on that crew. You made us cookies. That guy was fresh out of high school, first job was a helper. Now has his own company and his son works with him.



Edit.........Once again brain saw one word, print said another.......House was suppose to be high.....fresh out of high school, not house school.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

We had to have an outlet put in (old oven was hard wired) after quoting price, did the work, here's the bill, and oh no pressure, but you can add a tip on that page.

That's a new one for me. I'm used to wanting good reviews and so sometimes they mention that but a tip for that kind of service is interesting and a bit strange IMO to ask for one just isn't an industry I would have presumed would have been like that. Offering water, snack, etc sure if you want to (I always offer water myself if a service is coming into my home) but asking for a tip..

Like we just did our own sprinkler system but had to contract out the plumbing work to run the water line from inside the home to the boxes. I can't imagine the guy asking for a tip to do that. His labor fee included the time and effort spent going to the city to do the permits, plus the permit fee plus his rate he just charges.

 

[ncc1701]

That's a new one for me. I'm used to wanting good reviews and so sometimes they mention that but a tip for that kind of service is interesting and a bit strange IMO to ask for one just isn't an industry I would have presumed would have been like that. Offering water, snack, etc sure if you want to (I always offer water myself if a service is coming into my home) but asking for a tip..

Like we just did our own sprinkler system but had to contract out the plumbing work to run the water line from inside the home to the boxes. I can't imagine the guy asking for a tip to do that. His labor fee included the time and effort spent going to the city to do the permits, plus the permit fee plus his rate he just charges.

Agreed about tipping for a contract job. We do offer waters & soda , plus the use of our Powder Room. For a delivery service ( furniture, appliances) we have given a tip enough to cover a meal at a fast food restaurant. And extra with furniture if the contract doesn't include taking old furniture out to the curb.

 

[ronandannette]

With quick service places (including Starbucks), if I'm picking up, I usually just throw some cash into the tip jars they usually have on the counters. Quick service places like Moe's and Chipotle don't make their employees rely on tips for their wages; they are paid at least minimum wage, so tips at these places are actual 'tips'. I've never run into an employee at a QS who reports their tips as wages. If I don't have cash, I'll leave a small tip on the app, most of the time.

Restaurants like Chili's or Appleby's are considered full service, and in many states, expect the tips the servers make to make up the greater amount of the wage that servers are paid. Servers have to report tips, so they are taxed on them, as the tips are part of their wages. They even pay taxes on the 'tip-out' portion of their tips (those tips that are given to busboys and cooks, who do not usually report those tips for taxation).

Curious if the busboys and cooks also have to report the tips on their taxes? If so, wouldn’t that mean several people are being taxed on the same money?