Have you gotten a COVID vaccine?

[mi*vida*loca]

I think the issue is time. We're asking people to get vaccinated, so many people, in a short amount of time. People don't have years or decades to think on it, to sit on it. There's this urgency here. I get both sides to that really. Some may feel pushed into getting the vaccine saying they'll want to wait for several years and some may simply say we just don't have that time for you to do that.

As an honesty measure I tend to be more sympathetic towards hesitancy on vaccine when it's not about politics, when it's not about misinformation and when it's not about "I'll just continue to isolate and you guys can be the guinea pigs" but so many of it is framed that way. And I don't just speak about this regarding the DIS, it's on my social media, it's on my husband's side of the family (where the ones not wanting to get it is steeped in misinformation and political conspiracies), etc.

I think people are afraid of there not being long term studies. At my hospital, which has had the vaccine for over a month, 56% people are vaccinated (over 8000 employees). I think that's about what will get vaccinated. I don’t see people still making new appointments. Just their second shots. When people talk about not getting it is about the unknown. Not politics.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think people are afraid of there not being long term studies. At my hospital, which has had the vaccine for over a month, 56% people are vaccinated (over 8000 employees). I think thsts about what will get vaccinated. I don’t see people still making new appointments. Just their second shots. When people talk about not getting it is about the unknown. Not politics.

I get that. But it could be years before we know long term effects. Do we just continue the status quo for years?

 

[Moliphino]

MA hasn't even gotten around to vaccinating those 65+, so it's going to be a while for me. We're still in phase 1.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I get that. But it could be years before we know long term effects. Do we just continue the status quo for years?

No I think after a certain amount of time it’s every man for themselves. If you didn’t vaccinate the risk is on you. Everyone I know who refuses to vaccinate is ok with taking that risk for themselves.

 

[mom2rtk]

No I think after a certain amount of time it’s every man for themselves. If you didn’t vaccinate the risk is on you. Everyone I know who refuses to vaccinate is ok with taking that risk for themselves.

And the people who are immunocompromised and can't be vaccinated?

 

[danissmart]

I think a lot of that is about making sure people don't ditch the mask the minute they get their own vaccine. I have every confidence masks are going away once a critical mass has been vaccinated.

In a way, you are making it a self fulfilling prophecy. The more people decide against the vaccine, the longer the masks will last.

In a way I am listening to our health overlords. You are interpreting what they are saying to what you want to hear. I am just hearing what is being said.

 

[danissmart]

Your usage of the word overlord is telling..

What does it tell you?

 

[mi*vida*loca]

And the people who are immunocompromised and can't be vaccinated?

I’m just saying what I think. I don’t have all the answers. Lol

What do they do during flu season? Not everyone vaccinates for the flu. Or any other illnesses that float around?

***i am not saying covid is like the flu. I know they are two different beasts.

 

[tippity]

No. I’m just reading and listening to what I’m being told by our health overlords. Vaccine does not equal normalcy. Vaccine doesn’t stop spread. Therefore no reason to be jabbed with an experimental vaccine.

I guess you have no intention of traveling internationally, since I'm sure the "Health Overlords" of other countries will require it as a price for admission.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think people are afraid of there not being long term studies. At my hospital, which has had the vaccine for over a month, 56% people are vaccinated (over 8000 employees). I think that's about what will get vaccinated. I don’t see people still making new appointments. Just their second shots. When people talk about not getting it is about the unknown. Not politics.

Absolutely, which is why I listed those specific reasons. I have less sympathy when the reasons for someone choosing not to get it are stemming from what I mentioned. I may respect their choice but have less sympathy..that's just me being honest.

As an example in terms of spread choosing to isolate is wonderful for that, in terms of protection against a virus for the population at large isolating isn't wonderful for that. Too many people choosing to isolate and not getting the vaccine because they are doing that won't do the population at large enough good.

The concerns over long-term effects is one where I have sympathy on even when still having the same base viewpoint we need many to get vaccinated, my understanding for why someone chooses not to get one is there. Minorities distrust in the government is another. That may seem political and parts of it is, but it's also steeped in experience both on a scientific/medical means and clearly on other things (it's about as far as I can go with that statement).

 

[mrs. magoo]

I would be curious to know at what point these people were infected. It does take a bit of time for any vaccine to reach its full potential (even if it's just 52% or whatever after a first dose). If second doses are being given at 3 or 4 weeks, then most of that timeframe is spent developing its full potential.

Unless Israel is waiting longer between doses?

That is why I posted over on the Covid and the rest of us board. I know that there was a poster from Israel and I wanted to know how things are going. I also know that there is controversy with the vaccine not being available for some Palestinians living in Israel so I am wondering if that population is driving their increasing numbers. This was the story I saw yesterday : https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55734257

 

[tippity]

I think people are afraid of there not being long term studies. At my hospital, which has had the vaccine for over a month, 56% people are vaccinated (over 8000 employees). I think that's about what will get vaccinated. I don’t see people still making new appointments. Just their second shots. When people talk about not getting it is about the unknown. Not politics.

I guess it's the relative risk. I work in cancer and most people are willing to try any treatment without knowing the long term side effects. People seem to seek out the latest and not necessarily greatest treatments.
Maybe Covid isn't life threatening enough for people to take the risk.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Minorities distrust in the government is another. That may seem political and parts of it is, but it's also steeped in experience both on a scientific/medical means and clearly on other things (it's about as far as I can go with that statement).

Yes. There’s a lot of mistrust in the government but there are legit reasons for it. I work in the inner city and I’m a minority and most of my friends are too. I would say about half of our employees are minorities. In my unscientific study I’ve found most of the minorities at my job aren’t being vaccinated. (They put a sticker on your badge when you’ve been vaccinated, just like they do in flu season so it’s easy to see as you walk around). None of my friends are vaccinated and only one of my grandmas is vaccinated in my family. No one else wants it. And you can see which patients ask for the vaccine and which ones don’t.

ETA: for my family and friends it’s a lot of worry about long term effects.

 

[OKW Lover]

Appreciate everybody's reports about the vaccine process. It would be more helpful if people would also mention where they are (at least state/county) so we know what to expect near us.

 

[mrs. magoo]

So question, because this is what people use, news stories use, etc.

Is the 2+ million doses distributed accurate then on CDC tracker but the number of doses administered not? The other poster said there was no way they had gotten 2 million doses but if that number includes LTC it would make sense and then it would just be an issue where the number of doses administered, because of what data they have available, they only list those residents located outside of LTC. Does that all make sense?

Yes you have that correct from what I read yesterday and heard from the governor's press conference. The state is getting fewer doses this week so some clinics had to be cancelled and rescheduled. The issue is most of the vaccine goes to NYC and not the other areas of NY. This has always been an issue for New Yorkers - us western NYers send a lot of money in taxes to NYC and if is no different with vaccine distribution. I am 49 years old and for as long as I can remember there has been a movement to have NYC be its own thing like Washington D.C. since so much money goes there and not to the other counties.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

No I think after a certain amount of time it’s every man for themselves. If you didn’t vaccinate the risk is on you. Everyone I know who refuses to vaccinate is ok with taking that risk for themselves.

In a perfect world that would be okay, in a world where what we are vaccinating against wasn't (corrected word) this widespread (and I mean on its effects and its actual presence) that would be okay.

There are def. some diseases and viruses where there's an acceptable threshold for non-compliance in getting the vaccine and that choice being on you even if more people got it it would be better. Gardasil, Shingles, flu, etc

I'm not so sure this one falls into that category at its present state because of how far reaching the effects are. I think that's one of the largest barriers. But it goes back to something that has been at the heart of the anger and frustration of so many people during this---Non-compliance in doing what is asked of you for the greater good. We're just on the Yang part of that instead of the Yin if that makes sense.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

That is why I posted over on the Covid and the rest of us board. I know that there was a poster from Israel and I wanted to know how things are going. I also know that there is controversy with the vaccine not being available for some Palestinians living in Israel so I am wondering if that population is driving their increasing numbers. This was the story I saw yesterday : https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55734257

I appreciate the article, that eases my concerns there and kinda confirms wondering about time given for the immune system to respond. Hopefully in a few weeks they'll have more follow up information regarding what they are seeing. They're hoping to be one of the first to have their whole population (small as it is by comparison to others) vaccinated so they may be able to shed light on it that other countries can't for a long while.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

What does it tell you?

I think you know but I'll leave it at that

 

[mefordis]

And the people who are immunocompromised and can't be vaccinated?

People in that situation, covid isn't their only concern. They need to protect themselves from everything, from the common cold to the thousands of other viruses out there without a name.

 

[mom2rtk]

People in that situation, covid isn't their only concern. They need to protect themselves from everything, from the common cold to the thousands of other viruses out there without a name.

I’m just saying what I think. I don’t have all the answers. Lol

What do they do during flu season? Not everyone vaccinates for the flu. Or any other illnesses that float around?

***i am not saying covid is like the flu. I know they are two different beasts.

So since they can't control all of their risk, we shouldn't help trying to create herd immunity for them on this one?