Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[TheMaxRebo]

Your “odds” are based on exactly zero facts about mass gatherings.

Irresponsible to make such a claim, but most people on here seem to know better anyways.

This kind of blasé attitude is exactly why you can’t trust the person next to you in the parks.

Now can someone post that adorable video of Joy frolicking at Epcot again?

can I get you into a video of Pooh catching butterflies in EPCOT?

 

[JacknSally]

So many trees! I didn't expect trees in the center planter. Or maybe I did and forgot about it since all of that started years ago.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1283479188318621699

 

[SwirlTheCitrus]

Counted 25 cm cleaning backlot Express rn, they just closed

Normal occurrence, or did something happen?

 

[anthony2k7]

Weirdly the reservation system is showing Resort Guests could still get in today, but from now until next friday, there are no park reservations available at DHS.

Sounds like they have changed the bucket sizes maybe?

 

[indylaw99]

I feared when Disney announced that there was no reason to get to rope drop at DS because ROTR would have openings all day. It didn't make sense to me because it seemed like you were still MUCH more likely to get a spot if you were there by 10 than to wait until later in the day and hope there was room. So I watched all of the sources in the parks all day today and it seems exactly what I feared happened? People who waited until 4 were completely shut out?

How is this any better than before? Everyone is still going to line up before the park opens to try to be in by 10 to maximize their chances of getting a spot. It isn't even worth waiting to try to get one of the 1pm spots because those filled up so fast as well.

Hopefully Disney learned a LOT today and changes up their procedures for DS. It doesn't do any good to have the other 3 parks flowing well with good distancing and reasons to come to the park later if DS continues to be like it was today for the first few hours. It seems like the easiest answer is to let anyone with a reservation for the day try to get a boarding group even if they aren't in the park?

 

[Tjddis]

It is entirely possible, though I may have be exaggerating for effect --

How many "active cases" of the virus are in Florida right now? (including undiagnosed cases)?
How many of those active cases are in the Orlando area?
How many of those active cases are specifically in WDW?
How many of those active cases are in one particular park?
How many of those active cases would you happen to even run across in that particular park IF they were there on the same day as you?

I mean people are now acutely aware of not going out while sick .. people are getting temp screenings before walking in the gates .. the odds a sick person walks in there is pretty small, but yes not impossible. I am sure there are plenty of days where there theoretically could be ZERO infected people inside WDW. (especially this early in the re-opening)

I am just talking odds.

I just think that we, as a country, are treating this disease like EVERYONE has it .. when the reality is quite the opposite. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be careful, that means we don't have to panic and shame others if a few people get too close to us or have their nose out of their mask for a few seconds . .because odds are VERY VERY HIGH they aren't even infected.

Anyway .. I'm off the rails a bit.
Bringing this back on topic .. as long as Disney keeps capacity low (and I still wonder what that magic number is) .. I think the parks will be as safe as they can be.

The only honest answer to your questions is I don’t know. Nobody knows

as far as the odds, there was a poster on here last week who is a statistician. We had a non emotion based convo where he basically said that if you go somewhere where the virus is prevalent you increase your odds of exposure exponentially.

so that’s it. If you are unconcerned about contracting, and unconcerned about potentially spreading while asymptomatic than that’s your view. I happen to think both of those potential outcomes are problematic, and I also think they lead to further prevalence of the virus and that does nothing but complicate the efforts to get it under control

so you are of course free to evaluate these factors and proceed as you see fit. If you feel these evaluations bolster your decision more power to you. I do not see them as statistically or scientifically based, but that’s just my opinion. So the argument you present would not sway me to change my decision, anymore than I would expect mine to sway yours

I wish you safe and enjoyable travels...

 

[anthony2k7]

So many trees! I didn't expect trees in the center planter. Or maybe I did and forgot about it since all of that started years ago.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1283479188318621699

Well.. its OK, but I think more fountains or something there would have made it better.

 

[MegaraWink]

I feared when Disney announced that there was no reason to get to rope drop at DS because ROTR would have openings all day. It didn't make sense to me because it seemed like you were still MUCH more likely to get a spot if you were there by 10 than to wait until later in the day and hope there was room. So I watched all of the sources in the parks all day today and it seems exactly what I feared happened? People who waited until 4 were completely shut out?

How is this any better than before? Everyone is still going to line up before the park opens to try to be in by 10 to maximize their chances of getting a spot. It isn't even worth waiting to try to get one of the 1pm spots because those filled up so fast as well.

Hopefully Disney learned a LOT today and changes up their procedures for DS. It doesn't do any good to have the other 3 parks flowing well with good distancing and reasons to come to the park later if DS continues to be like it was today for the first few hours. It seems like the easiest answer is to let anyone with a reservation for the day try to get a boarding group even if they aren't in the park?

Yeah I'd love it if they did that. Right now, my solution will be to scan into the park and then immediately leave.

 

[rteetz]

Well.. its OK, but I think more fountains or something there would have made it better.

The main fountain is coming.

 

[Falcon2xp]

I don’t post often in here.
but love to read every comment in here anyways.
just and late review of my experience at Epcot yesterday as a guest of a cast member and a silly advice when I when there.
first the advice and probably just few of the negative part of my experience yesterday.
After we rode test track that is one of my favorite rides y realize that I drop my phone(wallet) in the ride . Figure it out after all that years and all that people that I criticize for not taking the things and dubble check before you leave the rides! . It happen to me.
realize that don’t have my wallet just about I was walking in the exit of the gift shop.
I ask a cast member I won’t say who or in what position so they don’t get in trouble. But it was within the test track experience cast members. he said to walk in the front of the attraction to tell a cast member becuae they have radios when there then the cast member tell me to go back to the store where I came to go in the back of the attraction to tell a cast member. When to the back of the attraction .
Had to go in The opposite direction of everyone getting off the ride just in order to talk to some one to get my items or to point me where to go if the items was lost.
neither to say I most off cross 20 people in the opositor direction in a pandemic. To much for safety standards in something so basic that I am sore will happen every day.

 

[fla4fun]

Keep us posted! I would love to be able to grab our orange birds next week

At this time no magnets at Epcot. No word on when or where to get them. Lots of merch. I got the glasses and ornament.

 

[JacknSally]

Well.. its OK, but I think more fountains or something there would have made it better.

AFAIK, they're still planning for the prisms in the main fountain... though it seems like these trees would block that?

 

[Falcon2xp]

In general the experience in the park was good and love the princess in the show case make me feel like I was a Disney.
oh and if you feel a little nervous of a lot of people next to you just skip the Mexico ride this time .

 

[koszmok]

I think the logistics are the problem. When do you allow people to reserve a park pass for a different park? While they're already inside a different park? That couldn't be, because that messes with the capacities. And how are they going to force you out of your current park before you can book a new park? They can't. It's MUCH easier to just say "this is your park for the day, come and go to THIS park as much as you please". Capacity is clear. It gets too complicated otherwise IMO.

ETA: The ONLY way around this I see is what they did at MK on reopening day. They allow you to buy a day ticket AT the gate. That means you can't be in DHS and decide to reserve a spot at MK. You physically have to be AT MK and buy a ticket, therefore not messing up other park capacity limits.

But what do you mean messing up other park capacity limit?

If you are in MK you are counted for MK.

If AK later on the day has availability and you reserve an AVAILABLE spot it means there is still "room" for you.

Once you get to AK you are counted to AK too.

Basically you are counted in 2 parks but physically you are only in 1 park at a time. In a way with you being counted in 2 parks there is less people in the park you are not in as counted...

If it`s same day reservation (because ie at 3 pm AK still has availability) you probably wouldn`t steal a "spot" from someone else....

It`s not like your headcount is deducted from 1 park and added to another. Actually the opposite you would be counted in 2 parks.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I feared when Disney announced that there was no reason to get to rope drop at DS because ROTR would have openings all day. It didn't make sense to me because it seemed like you were still MUCH more likely to get a spot if you were there by 10 than to wait until later in the day and hope there was room. So I watched all of the sources in the parks all day today and it seems exactly what I feared happened? People who waited until 4 were completely shut out?

How is this any better than before? Everyone is still going to line up before the park opens to try to be in by 10 to maximize their chances of getting a spot. It isn't even worth waiting to try to get one of the 1pm spots because those filled up so fast as well.

Hopefully Disney learned a LOT today and changes up their procedures for DS. It doesn't do any good to have the other 3 parks flowing well with good distancing and reasons to come to the park later if DS continues to be like it was today for the first few hours. It seems like the easiest answer is to let anyone with a reservation for the day try to get a boarding group even if they aren't in the park?

I know this is something people were asking for even before all of the covid related things happened - so that there were more chances. Idea being that if you have like an issue iwth your phone for the first chance you at least have another chance

But this is what I feared - instead of being disappointed one time you can now be disappointed three times. .... so, pretty much how my kids feel about me

 

[armerida]

Entered ROTR queue at 12:25 and exited at 2:55. DD said it was worth the wait!

Glad your DD loved it! Did it break down while you were in line? That seems like a really long wait...

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I feared when Disney announced that there was no reason to get to rope drop at DS because ROTR would have openings all day. It didn't make sense to me because it seemed like you were still MUCH more likely to get a spot if you were there by 10 than to wait until later in the day and hope there was room. So I watched all of the sources in the parks all day today and it seems exactly what I feared happened? People who waited until 4 were completely shut out?

How is this any better than before? Everyone is still going to line up before the park opens to try to be in by 10 to maximize their chances of getting a spot. It isn't even worth waiting to try to get one of the 1pm spots because those filled up so fast as well.

Hopefully Disney learned a LOT today and changes up their procedures for DS. It doesn't do any good to have the other 3 parks flowing well with good distancing and reasons to come to the park later if DS continues to be like it was today for the first few hours. It seems like the easiest answer is to let anyone with a reservation for the day try to get a boarding group even if they aren't in the park?

The problem with RotR was always the capacity, made worse by the poor reliability. Tweaking the method to get a BG or to line up in some fashion, still leaves that glaring issue.

So you’re right, the change to 3 drops a day instead of 1 didnt help much if the ride itself still can’t handle the demand. People had suggested this kind of thing before COVID and the people who thought it was a bad idea always said similar to what you’ve pointed out about today, it just gives more opportunity to be disappointed, as 3 drops vs 1 didn’t create anymore spaces. The only difference now is if you miss the first drop you still can’t go to another park so you’re not missing out when you hang around to try again.

Allowing people to join outside the park seems like an obvious thing to me too with the reservations, but I suppose that just helps with crowding not getting on the actual ride.

 

[Mit88]

But what do you mean messing up other park capacity limit?

If you are in MK you are counted for MK.

If AK later on the day has availability and you reserve an AVAILABLE spot it means there is still "room" for you.

Once you get to AK you are counted to AK too.

Basically you are counted in 2 parks but physically you are only in 1 park at a time. In a way with you being counted in 2 parks there is less people in the park you are not in as counted...

If it`s same day reservation (because ie at 3 pm AK still has availability) you probably wouldn`t steal a "spot" from someone else....

It`s not like your headcount is deducted from 1 park and added to another. Actually the opposite you would be counted in 2 parks.

Have a system where you “check out” of the park you’re leaving. Scan your magic band or ticket on the way out of the park clearing a spot.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

The passholder email just came!! 24 hours or so after most people did but who’s counting

 

[anthony2k7]

AFAIK, they're still planning for the prisms in the main fountain... though it seems like these trees would block that?

I wonder if in a few years all those trees will be blocking the view of SSE from the entrance?