Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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It’ll be a family bonding experience. 2 laptops per person, everyone. On your marks. Stay alert.

Joe, you’re on reservations. Ohana first. DO NOT GET DISTRACTED.

Son, you’re on fast passes. Your sister wants a frozen ride at Epcot god help me if you forget that one.

Sara, I need you to work with your brother for once. Those fast passes are useless if we don’t get into the park. And make sure you respond to your father. I don’t want a be our guest the day we go to Epcot.

Get it together people! Focus focus focus. 10 minutes to open!!

Sorry...too much insight into my life?
Haha! We really need to up our game!
 
Does anyone believe fastpass as we know it might not come back?

I don’t think so. At D23 last year, they talked about a new system called Genie that was supposed to come out late 2020. There’s also talk of “virtual queues”. I don’t think they want long standby lines, especially next to the fastpass line.
 
Seeing that my reply to Yinn was delegated was apparently delegated for being off topic, can we please stop with the “my ADR for xxx” has is still there or is gone? ALL ADR’s are going to be deleted eventually as stated by the numerous emails we have received. The presence or not of a reservation on the MDE app is irrelevant. They will going away as fast as Disney IT can do do it. You don’t just delete millions of ADRs at once without risking crashing your database. You have to have a key to pull from so doing it in batches by restaurant totally makes sense.
 
I like to see a system where you pay for admission into the park plus a set number of tickets for the attractions. Each ticket would allow one ride on a attraction. To keep everyone from using them all on the most popular rides, they could group the attractions into tiers, like say A through E, and the set of tickets everyone receives would be tickets for each of the different tiers. It could push people to using the less popular attractions so that they don't leave the park with a handful of tickets for the lowest tiers.
 
I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?
 
I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?

I don’t think that’s feasible to shut down for isolated cases (I also think it’s inevitable and will happen). They’re going to have to have that CM out (duh, lol), maybe shut down the area temporarily for heavy duty cleaning (places are doing that here when employees tested positive), and then closely monitor anyone who worked in close contact with them, even give them paid time off to self monitor maybe. Is there anything the union has negotiated for to cover that?

Hopefully the spread from a positive CM would be kept to a bare minimum because of distancing and masks. Same goes for a guest who goes on to test positive. Suspending roles that have close prolonged contact with guests should protect both CMs and guests 🤞.
 
I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?
If Disney kept corona out of their parks completely that would be one hell of magic. No doubt someone will get it. Question is how fast and how many. It will take a lot for them to shutdown again unless we had to shut everything down again. Considering cases are going up with reopening and no one is caring I would think that it’ll stay open though. I think the protests going on turned people say from corona which kind of helped the people who were crying for a reopening. Because no one is talking about that anymore. I wonder how these protests will affect cases in 2-3 weeks.
 
I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?
No, it just underlines the need for precautions. There have been numerous cases of grocery store workers who have contracted the disease but we have worked through that. You can’t completely eliminate the risk but you can control and mitigate it. We don’t know if a CM has ever had the disease but did not exhibit symptoms. There is a good possibility that my wife and I got a mild case while in Disneyworld in Feb as we both later had mild to serious symptoms though until a reliable antibody test comes out we won’t know.
 
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I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?

No. I have 2 examples why that I was personally involved with to back it up:
1. Hospital system. 5,000 employees. 12 cases with healthcare workers. Not one case has spread from employees to patients or employees to employees at work and this was prior to implementing 100% mask policy.
2. Nursing home. Aprox 500 employees and 70 cases with aprox 20 in employees with half of them asymptomatic. Not a single employee (even asymptomatic ones) spread it to a household member.
We (obviously) couldn’t shut down either site.
Occupational exposure should be test and trace. Worksite shutdowns are usually not necessary.
Asymptomatic spread can and does happen but it appears that close even intimate contact with an obviously ill person is what usually is happening to result in transmission. Outside of healthcare workers in the first aid centers and temperature screening tents I don’t think the risk is high at all for any CM with the proposed measures WDW has published and for those workers I am going to assume Disney has obtained the proper PPE for those at more risk.
 
I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?
Nope.

The measures in place should be enough.

If a couple of CMs in same area test positive then there needs to be an investigation to ensure measures are being followed.

If we get to the scenario where more than a couple of CMs test positive in the same area then I think the union will get involved and Disney will need to demonstrate they are doing enough or union may call for it to shut back down.
 
international travel restrictions - people simply cannot travel.

You might be surprised by the number of people flying back and forward internationally... including myself and the many people on that same flight and the flight just an hour later from the same U.S. airport to the same European airport.
Especially those with dual citizenship have a lot of flexibility.
 
You might be surprised by the number of people flying back and forward internationally... including myself and the many people on that same flight and the flight just an hour later from the same U.S. airport to the same European airport.
Especially those with dual citizenship have a lot of flexibility.
Well many countries will be allowing flights but with 14 day quarantines afterwards. I'm sure some people will take the risk of the flight and the risk of ignoring the quarantine as well but equally a lot of people will not.

Most international visitors visit for 14 days, no way will many be able to take 28 days from work for the trip plus quarantine. Also, if employers know that employee has been away and ignored quarantined they probably shouldnt be allowed back to work anyway.
 
Today's schedule page on the HUB changed, they have all 3 US properties, cm need to click on WDW and it takes to another page that basically says if you have been recalled for work click here.
FT CM are expected to start receiving calls today.
This is my last schedule update since we were looking for that as a way to predict opening days but we already have dates.
 
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I have to ask... if a CM, one, somewhere in WDW tests positive for Covid somewhere down the line, do you advocate for shutting it all down?

Well, this entire mess started with this 1 person, so.....Hopefully the measures they have in place would help mitigate. I’ll be very surprised if we don’t see some cases, if not WDW, Universal or one of the parks where they aren’t as restrictive.
I wouldn’t advocate they shut down, but I wouldn’t want to be there either. One documented case probably means a lot more not yet documented.

But we’re basically letting the cat out of the bag with everything re-opening. The mind set, and this isn’t directed at WDW, is that we’re willing to let what happens, happen. I don’t see us shutting down again regardless of how bad it may get. As a country, we’ve decided the economy is worth it. I think it’s going to be individual decisions in that regard from here on out.

It’s one advantage to not going, I don’t have to be a guinea pig.
 
Today's schedule page on the HUB changed, they have all 3 US properties, cm need to click on WDW and it takes to another page that basically says if you have been recalled for work click here.
FT CM are expected to start receiving calls today.
This is my last schedule update since we were looking for that as a way to predict opening days but we already have dates.
Thank you for keeping our dreams alive and helping alleviate some of those unknowns we all had.
 
I am very curious about this AP preview. Will they have like 2-3 day packages with resort stays to help with cms at the resorts? Will it just be you’re on your own for out of state APs? I have plenty of miles with southwest and would def entertain the idea of heading down if they did something like that.
 
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