Thousand flock to Florida Beaches

[Jrb1979]

Right? Honestly I don’t know how Vegas will do it. Casino chips, cards, buttons and screens on thousands of machines. Restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, movie theaters, show venues all in one place. I can’t even wrap my head around it.

To each their own but I am not hurry to return to the new normal. All I want is to enjoy a beer on a patio right now.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Yeah, Wynn Properties are not the governor. And who is going to come?

gambling addicts.

ETA: I saw you posted that they were empty before the shutdown. So who knows who would show up. Lol

 

[mi*vida*loca]

True, however since there isn't a vaccine yet, masks, continual sanitizing may be the norm until a vaccine.

There may never be a vaccine.

 

[Farro]

There may never be a vaccine.

Apparently it's very difficult to make a vaccine for coronaviruses, just like the common cold doesn't have a vaccine.

I wouldn't count on one. Just better cross fingers for testing/contact tracing to pick up and then hopefully a treatment somewhere down the line.

And then work on the socioeconomic issues that are facing minorities and low income households in our country who are among the largest death population of Covid. If we can help there, it would go a long way to lowering death rate from Covid. Better access to healthcare, more affordable healthcare better trust in leaders, need better options for groceries, need better investment in the neighborhoods and education.
Yes, this disease can strike down anyone, but majority fall into certain comorbidity groups. If we can help everyone get healthier, stay healthier, prevent the development of HTN, kidney disease, heart disease, DM and the like before they happen. Yes, some will still get those diseases, but prevention is KEY in helping a lot of others.

I really think the above will be an important factor of how will deal with Covid from here on out. And I feel like this important point is one a lot of people like to ignore. Social distancing is all well and good but you still need to address the root cause of the deaths from Covid - the comorbidities (in most cases, obviously there are outliers).

Also better protocols for nursing homes, which are prime for death from diseases such as this.
(which, let's be honest, should have been addressed ages ago, just like above)

 

[FanforDisney]

True, however since there isn't a vaccine yet, masks, continual sanitizing may be the norm until a vaccine.

What happens if there is no vaccine? That is what I am afraid will happen.

 

[Jrb1979]

What happens if there is no vaccine? That is what I am afraid will happen.

Masks are the new normal til this virus gets to herd immunity.

 

[Farro]

What happens if there is no vaccine? That is what I am afraid will happen.

Posted my thoughts about that above.

 

[Searc]

You might be surprised. A stunningly large portion of our population still thinks this is some kind of overblown media invention.

I see more and more of this type of idiocy every day on all forms of social media.

 

[wenrob]

gambling addicts.

ETA: I saw you posted that they were empty before the shutdown. So who knows who would show up. Lol

Plus addicts are more likely to gamble at their neighborhood bar, 7/11, grocery store or “local’s casino.” It’s hard for people to imagine the actual size of Vegas but The Strip is a long commute for most. I can get to Mount Charleston or Red Rock faster than I can get to The Strip from my house.

 

[jlwhitney]

Apparently it's very difficult to make a vaccine for coronaviruses, just like the common cold doesn't have a vaccine.

I wouldn't count on one. Just better cross fingers for testing/contact tracing to pick up and then hopefully a treatment somewhere down the line.

And then work on the socioeconomic issues that are facing minorities and low income households in our country who are among the largest death population of Covid. If we can help there, it would go a long way to lowering death rate from Covid. Better access to healthcare, more affordable healthcare better trust in leaders, need better options for groceries, need better investment in the neighborhoods and education.
Yes, this disease can strike down anyone, but majority fall into certain comorbidity groups. If we can help everyone get healthier, stay healthier, prevent the development of HTN, kidney disease, heart disease, DM and the like before they happen. Yes, some will still get those diseases, but prevention is KEY in helping a lot of others.

I really think the above will be an important factor of how will deal with Covid from here on out. And I feel like this important point is one a lot of people like to ignore. Social distancing is all well and good but you still need to address the root cause of the deaths from Covid - the comorbidities (in most cases, obviously there are outliers).

Also better protocols for nursing homes, which are prime for death from diseases such as this.
(which, let's be honest, should have been addressed ages ago, just like above)

Nursing homes are awful. 23% of the deaths in Florida are from nursing homes, 6 of the 11 in my county are nursing homes as well as 112 of our 254 cases (as of sunday night).

Also even more done to deal with smoking and vaping. Some of the outliers may have been smokers at some point in their live for a period of time which causes lung damage but the media isn't reporting if they were/are or never have which is a huge.

 

[jlwhitney]

What happens if there is no vaccine? That is what I am afraid will happen.

More than likely we will have some treatments and in time herd immunity will kick in. There is a huge chance that by the time a vaccine comes, if they do, it won't be needed as much as they are claiming now.

This virus has been mutating as it goes, viruses don't mutate stronger so there is also a chance it could become less virulent in time (which is actually likely if it becomes seasonal)

 

[wenrob]

To each their own but I am not hurry to return to the new normal. All I want is to enjoy a beer on a patio right now.

Same but an entire city and a good portion of the state rely economically on Vegas being open. It seems like just a playground but over 200,000 people are out of work. They’re real people with real families to take care of.

 

[sam_gordon]

This virus has been mutating as it goes

I thought I had heard that this virus is not mutating as much as others (any mutation is very slight). Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[cabanafrau]

What happens if there is no vaccine? That is what I am afraid will happen.

Perhaps it will be possible to develop anti virals that can be used to treat those who become infected in the hopes of heading off the most dangerous effects. I have no idea whether that is possible or not without also developing a vaccine.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Apparently it's very difficult to make a vaccine for coronaviruses, just like the common cold doesn't have a vaccine.

I wouldn't count on one. Just better cross fingers for testing/contact tracing to pick up and then hopefully a treatment somewhere down the line.

And then work on the socioeconomic issues that are facing minorities and low income households in our country who are among the largest death population of Covid. If we can help there, it would go a long way to lowering death rate from Covid. Better access to healthcare, more affordable healthcare better trust in leaders, need better options for groceries, need better investment in the neighborhoods and education.
Yes, this disease can strike down anyone, but majority fall into certain comorbidity groups. If we can help everyone get healthier, stay healthier, prevent the development of HTN, kidney disease, heart disease, DM and the like before they happen. Yes, some will still get those diseases, but prevention is KEY in helping a lot of others.

I really think the above will be an important factor of how will deal with Covid from here on out. And I feel like this important point is one a lot of people like to ignore. Social distancing is all well and good but you still need to address the root cause of the deaths from Covid - the comorbidities (in most cases, obviously there are outliers).

Also better protocols for nursing homes, which are prime for death from diseases such as this.
(which, let's be honest, should have been addressed ages ago, just like above)

Neighborhood clinics and telemedicine can and will enable easier access to healthcare. This will encourage more to keep appointments and hopefully be more compliant.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Apparently it's very difficult to make a vaccine for coronaviruses, just like the common cold doesn't have a vaccine.

I wouldn't count on one. Just better cross fingers for testing/contact tracing to pick up and then hopefully a treatment somewhere down the line.

And then work on the socioeconomic issues that are facing minorities and low income households in our country who are among the largest death population of Covid. If we can help there, it would go a long way to lowering death rate from Covid. Better access to healthcare, more affordable healthcare better trust in leaders, need better options for groceries, need better investment in the neighborhoods and education.
Yes, this disease can strike down anyone, but majority fall into certain comorbidity groups. If we can help everyone get healthier, stay healthier, prevent the development of HTN, kidney disease, heart disease, DM and the like before they happen. Yes, some will still get those diseases, but prevention is KEY in helping a lot of others.

I really think the above will be an important factor of how will deal with Covid from here on out. And I feel like this important point is one a lot of people like to ignore. Social distancing is all well and good but you still need to address the root cause of the deaths from Covid - the comorbidities (in most cases, obviously there are outliers).

Also better protocols for nursing homes, which are prime for death from diseases such as this.
(which, let's be honest, should have been addressed ages ago, just like above)

 

[Farro]

Neighborhood clinics and telemedicine can and will enable easier access to healthcare. This will encourage more to keep appointments and hopefully be more compliant.

It's definitely a start!

But low-income neighborhoods - a lot can't afford healthcare, or have mistrust that the system will help. And they don't have access to the healthier food that they need like most of us on this board can get. And they can't afford it either. It took years to get like this and will take years to fix.

It's an uncomfortable conversation for some, but one that needs to be had as proven by the racial disparity of this disease. And I speak as a person from Chicago who knows this all too well.

 

[Notrealname]

We thrive on conventions. People stopped coming before the shut down. Kitchen staff was down to a skeleton crew in most places and restaurants closing early. Some casinos shut down before Sisolak gave the order. It seems like a noble act but they were bleeding money. It’s cheaper to close down vs stay open with no business. People will come, sure, but not enough to sustain the cost of being open. At least not yet.

And I would hope that ICE keeps all the “whales“ from entering.

You keep hearing about having to wipe down seats at theatres, and wear masks everywhere just to have to be able to start to get back to normal. To me that sounds like a lot of work to enjoy something.

It won’t be easy to sanitize all those bowling ball holes.

I see more and more of this type of idiocy every day on all forms of social media.

Did you consider that it may simply be due to having more time to peruse those sites?

 

[JaxDad]

It's definitely a start!

But low-income neighborhoods - a lot can't afford healthcare, or have mistrust that the system will help. And they don't have access to the healthier food that they need like most of us on this board can get. And they can't afford it either. It took years to get like this and will take years to fix.

It's an uncomfortable conversation for some, but one that needs to be had as proven by the racial disparity of this disease. And I speak as a person from Chicago who knows this all too well.

One of the things I've been doing during this experience is taking my teen son out for driving lessons. It's been nice with the limited traffic, and we've been all over our city in the past few weeks. Just anecdotally, there is apparently less regard for social distancing in the lower income communities. I have no idea if this is due to larger households being out together, a lack of transportation and food access, a lack of exposure to media notifications, a mistrust of the government, or something else. Again, this is just my limited observation from some drives around the city.

 

[TLSnell1981]

It's definitely a start!

But low-income neighborhoods - a lot can't afford healthcare, or have mistrust that the system will help. And they don't have access to the healthier food that they need like most of us on this board can get. And they can't afford it either. It took years to get like this and will take years to fix.

It's an uncomfortable conversation for some, but one that needs to be had as proven by the racial disparity of this disease. And I speak as a person from Chicago who knows this all too well.

This is why we need neighborhood clinics and telemedicine...much less expensive and easier to treat earlier rather than later. And yes, I'm aware there is mistrust amongst some. This is where community leaders need to step up.

Easy access is also essential. Many lack reliable transportation and must depend on others. This requires missed days from work, etc...it's a hassle and places another financial burden on the families. Patients are more likely to be seen and/or follow up if "appointment" time and location are reasonably accessible.

It not just this disease. The comorbidities are greatly affecting outcomes...and it's not just COVID-19 that killing them.