The Running Thread - 2019

@Waiting2goback yeah not so easy. I have a great one i can recommend in Atlanta :). I might suggest looking up sports therapists verses physical therapy. I think you might get some better options. Not that there is anything wrong with the chain physical therapy places, but they tend to work on more general people and those coming off surgery. i have used them before but after finding this person, i like the more running centric. She is actually a licensed therapist and a licensed triathlon coach. She does a lot of things and will even run mindfulness clinics. I found her through the local triathlon club.
I will look into sports therapists as well, thank you.
 
Hi all, has anyone done the NY half marathon? Got through the ballot and travelling over from the UK in March, just wondered what the course is like?
 
but if you can afford it i would go find a physical therapist that works with runners.

@Waiting2goback if you have a local runner community or others you run with in your area ask them if they have a PT or sports chiro they recommend. There are a couple names here locally that my runner friends will go to... "this is the PT you want", "this is the chiro you want", "this is the sports massager you want", and if necessary "this is the ortho doctor you want". In all cases, the providers are runners or at least believe that running is a good thing and won't immediately recommend that you give up on running.

In the summer I went to a chiropractor right before I got too deep into my fall marathon cycle... I had never gone to a chiropractor and was a little hesitant. But this guy was recommended to me by several of my runner friends and was quite the accomplished marathoner himself. Anyways, I was having knee pain and immediately assumed I had torn something. He quickly diagnosed it as runners knee and explained that it was due to tightness in my quads. He gave me some simple exercises, reiterated the need for slow warmups, reminded me of the importance of foam rolling, dry-needled me, and told me he didn't need to see me again. Just 1 visit and he got me back on track. He also developed and sells this inexpensive tool on amazon that I had already bought, but didn't really know how to use. He showed me how to use it and now I put it on for a minute or 2 before I do most of my runs. It works pretty well to loosen up tight muscles.

CTM Band
 
Rocket City Half Marathon Race/Trip Recap

This is going to be long-winded, so I'll start with the short version.

Bottom line up front: Great trip, great weather, OK race. 1:50:53, a PR!

Training: I replayed a DB 22 week marathon plan starting in July. I mostly stuck to it until I got derailed in October with too much racing and simulated racing. I could see I was not going to be in shape for the half marathon. I sent up the signal to get help.

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@DopeyBadger responded immediately and put me on the right track. Just like running a marathon is not the same as running 2 halfs, training for a half using a full marathon plan is not twice as good. In the beginning of November, I morphed the full plan into a half plan based on DB's suggestions. My longest run ended up being 15 (twice). I felt ready for the race.

My history at Rocket City: I've run the RC full marathon 5 times. Of the 5, 2 were death marches and 4 were (at the time) PRs. 2012 was both. It was my second full and the one that got me hooked. RC is my favorite marathon due to the easy start/finish logistics, the course, and the city itself. They added a half a couple of years ago. I signed up this year on a whim.

Day before the race: RC is a 4.5 hour drive for us. The fastest route is down to Atlanta, up to Chattanooga, and down to Huntsville. I opted to skip Atlanta traffic and take the back roads. It rained the whole way, but I'd rather drive in the rain than run in it. We stayed at the race host hotel, Embassy Suites. The 2 room setup works perfectly for early morning race preparations without waking the DW. I was bummed to find out that they no longer have a hot tub and the indoor pool was closed for maintenance.

The expo is fairly small and not crowded. I picked up a couple of gels and a free do-rag. The actual finish line is in the middle of the expo, so it's nice that you can set a meetup spot. As we're leaving the expo, Elton John's Rocket Man comes on. Rocket Man is DW's nickname for me, mostly due to running RC so many times. I need to throw away a paper towel. I start to walk toward the trashcan but stop and throw a 15 foot jump shot. It hits the rim and goes in. I take this as a good omen.

Our pre-race dinner was at the City Cafe Diner, one of the few restaurants I know of where you can chose from pasta, pancakes, potatoes, and perogies (do all high carb foods start with 'P'?). I had pancakes and 'naked' perogies (boiled, not fried, no butter and onions). I know some people think perogies are weird, but with my Pittsburgh roots, I think they are the perfect carb-loading food. After dinner, we walked through the park (right next door to the hotel) to see the 'Tinsel Trail', 300 decorated trees lining the pathways. We returned to the hotel and I laid out 'Flat OSGG' and called it a night.

At the expo:
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Tinsel Trail:
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Pre-race: The half starts at 9AM, exactly 2 hours after the full. I got up around 5 even though it wasn't necessary; it's just what I do on race day. I hung out in the hotel lobby and talked running with the other runners. I talked to a guy from Knoxville trying to break 4 for the first time (he didn't) and a guy from Oxford Mississippi trying to BQ (he did). I'm usually pretty shy, but race morning brings out my social side. I had breakfast at the hotel buffet, a couple of bagels with PB&J and a small helping of fried potatoes. The weather was around 45 degrees and cloudy, but no rain. A little warmer than I prefer, but not bad. I opted for compression shorts, tank top, Goodr sunglasses and throw-away gloves, sock arm-warmers, do rag, and trash bag bummed from the hotel cleaning staff.

I like to think I looked like a rock star, but it could be a hobo that found a pair of sunglasses.

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Race: The start was 2 blocks from the hotel. I walked over with a woman from Memphis trying to break 1:55 (she did). I jogged for 10 minutes and stretched a little. I ate half a banana and 3/4 of a gel. I ditched the garbage bag before the start. I'm not a nervous racer and today was no difference. The gun goes off and I do what I trained for. I tell myself this is no different than a usual Saturday long run, except there's a big clock at the end. My goal was to break 1:50, an 8:23 pace. I manage my pace by monitoring average pace and lap pace with half mile auto laps. Here's what happened. This is based on the auto laps. I believe based on the mile markers, the pace was slightly slower.
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I went out a little fast, but not drastically so. Mile 4 and 5 were right on the money.

At mile 6 I made a bad decision and then compounded it. I didn't have to pee, but wasn't sure I could make it to the finish without stopping. I decided if I saw a vacant porta potty I'd stop. My thinking was that I'd rather have 6 miles to make up the time than 1 mile. Bad decision number 1: stopping when I didn't need to and wasting about 30 seconds. Bad decision number 2: I kept telling myself that I had 6 miles to make it up, but I tried to make it up immediately. I did miles 6, 7, 8 too fast, trying to get the average pace back down to 8:23. I knew it was the wrong thing to do but couldn't stop myself. I feel like I wore myself out and canceled out a strong finish.

10 and 11 were slightly slow. I saw the DW around mile 12. I was ready to ditch the sunglasses as they were really fogging up (seems worse on the Goodrs). I gesture wildly from a quarter mile away. She sees me and thinks I want a high 5, so I'm trying to hand her sunglasses as she's trying to slap them out of my hand. I'm glad to report the sunglasses survived. Mile 12 and 13, I tried to step on the gas but nothing happened, not even Prius gas. I could see the sub 1:50 slipping away. With about .5 miles to go, I could see that 1:51 and a PR was in danger so I did manage to find the gas petal and got across in 1:50:53. The finish line is in the Von Braun Center (big convention center) and they call out your name and hometown when you're about 50 feet from the finish. As usual, I give the volunteers a scare and they want me to go to the medical tent, but after a minute or 2 of hands on knees and huffing and puffing, I'm good. I rang the PR gong and moved to the food. They have a big spread but I passed on everything except chocolate milk. I found the DW at our prearranged meetup spot.

Bling: The shirt is a nice long sleeve tech shirt in a nice but unusual red-pink-coral color. We got an additional shirt at the finish. It doesn't do anything for me and will end up in my throwaway stash. The medal is nice and heavy and actually much nicer than the marathon medal.
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Post-race: We head back to the hotel, a 5 minute walk through an enclosed sky bridge. I cleanup (kind of) and we walk to the park for a celebratory lunch. There's a pizza place attached to the art museum with a heated patio. The course is slightly different this year, with the last mile being through the park, so the patio has a view of the race course.

The traditional post-race meal with runners in the background!

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As we leave the restaurant, the sweepers go by (RC has a strict 6 hour limit). Little brooms instead of balloons. One of the sweepers look familiar. When we get back to the hotel, the sweepers get in the elevator with us. I realize why she is familiar. I asked if she paced the x:xx group 2 years ago and she says yes, so I get to thank her 2 years later for pacing me to a full PR! I decide I'm not ready to crash so we Lyft out to a military museum. Back at the hotel, I do finally get cleaned up (really this time) and crash. We walk to a place in town for dinner and I have 'tart flambee', which is a fancy name for pizza!

Sunday we do some touristy things: Space and Rocket Center (which the race runs though), the Botanical Gardens, and Bridge Street Town Center, a big downtown-y outdoor mall. I score a Trash Panda shirt for our nephew, who is a big baseball fan.

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Monday morning we had an uneventful trip back home. The cats had managed not to wreck the house and were happy to have their waitstaff back.

Conclusion (finally!): Monday morning I had the same feeling as leaving Marathon Weekend: relieved that it's over, but sad that it's over. Since I didn't make my 1:50 goal and the race seemed harder than I thought it was going to, I keep thinking of it as a disappointment. I have to keep reminding myself that this is a 'real' PR, beating a year and a half old PR that was on a wildly downhill course (2000 ft drop). I need to savor ringing the PR gong; this stuff doesn't get any easier as you get older. I don't know what's next for me. I need to decide if I want to take a crack at the 5 and 10K PRs. And I'll probably do the Tear Drop Half (that's the downhill course) to try and best this PR!

If you made it this far, thanks for reading. Not sure why I felt the need to be so long-winded.
 
Rocket City Half Marathon Race/Trip Recap

This is going to be long-winded, so I'll start with the short version.

Bottom line up front: Great trip, great weather, OK race. 1:50:53, a PR!

Training: I replayed a DB 22 week marathon plan starting in July. I mostly stuck to it until I got derailed in October with too much racing and simulated racing. I could see I was not going to be in shape for the half marathon. I sent up the signal to get help.

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@DopeyBadger responded immediately and put me on the right track. Just like running a marathon is not the same as running 2 halfs, training for a half using a full marathon plan is not twice as good. In the beginning of November, I morphed the full plan into a half plan based on DB's suggestions. My longest run ended up being 15 (twice). I felt ready for the race.

My history at Rocket City: I've run the RC full marathon 5 times. Of the 5, 2 were death marches and 4 were (at the time) PRs. 2012 was both. It was my second full and the one that got me hooked. RC is my favorite marathon due to the easy start/finish logistics, the course, and the city itself. They added a half a couple of years ago. I signed up this year on a whim.

Day before the race: RC is a 4.5 hour drive for us. The fastest route is down to Atlanta, up to Chattanooga, and down to Huntsville. I opted to skip Atlanta traffic and take the back roads. It rained the whole way, but I'd rather drive in the rain than run in it. We stayed at the race host hotel, Embassy Suites. The 2 room setup works perfectly for early morning race preparations without waking the DW. I was bummed to find out that they no longer have a hot tub and the indoor pool was closed for maintenance.

The expo is fairly small and not crowded. I picked up a couple of gels and a free do-rag. The actual finish line is in the middle of the expo, so it's nice that you can set a meetup spot. As we're leaving the expo, Elton John's Rocket Man comes on. Rocket Man is DW's nickname for me, mostly due to running RC so many times. I need to throw away a paper towel. I start to walk toward the trashcan but stop and throw a 15 foot jump shot. It hits the rim and goes in. I take this as a good omen.

Our pre-race dinner was at the City Cafe Diner, one of the few restaurants I know of where you can chose from pasta, pancakes, potatoes, and perogies (do all high carb foods start with 'P'?). I had pancakes and 'naked' perogies (boiled, not fried, no butter and onions). I know some people think perogies are weird, but with my Pittsburgh roots, I think they are the perfect carb-loading food. After dinner, we walked through the park (right next door to the hotel) to see the 'Tinsel Trail', 300 decorated trees lining the pathways. We returned to the hotel and I laid out 'Flat OSGG' and called it a night.

At the expo:
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Tinsel Trail:
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Pre-race: The half starts at 9AM, exactly 2 hours after the full. I got up around 5 even though it wasn't necessary; it's just what I do on race day. I hung out in the hotel lobby and talked running with the other runners. I talked to a guy from Knoxville trying to break 4 for the first time (he didn't) and a guy from Oxford Mississippi trying to BQ (he did). I'm usually pretty shy, but race morning brings out my social side. I had breakfast at the hotel buffet, a couple of bagels with PB&J and a small helping of fried potatoes. The weather was around 45 degrees and cloudy, but no rain. A little warmer than I prefer, but not bad. I opted for compression shorts, tank top, Goodr sunglasses and throw-away gloves, sock arm-warmers, do rag, and trash bag bummed from the hotel cleaning staff.

I like to think I looked like a rock star, but it could be a hobo that found a pair of sunglasses.

View attachment 459151

Race: The start was 2 blocks from the hotel. I walked over with a woman from Memphis trying to break 1:55 (she did). I jogged for 10 minutes and stretched a little. I ate half a banana and 3/4 of a gel. I ditched the garbage bag before the start. I'm not a nervous racer and today was no difference. The gun goes off and I do what I trained for. I tell myself this is no different than a usual Saturday long run, except there's a big clock at the end. My goal was to break 1:50, an 8:23 pace. I manage my pace by monitoring average pace and lap pace with half mile auto laps. Here's what happened. This is based on the auto laps. I believe based on the mile markers, the pace was slightly slower.
View attachment 459253

I went out a little fast, but not drastically so. Mile 4 and 5 were right on the money.

At mile 6 I made a bad decision and then compounded it. I didn't have to pee, but wasn't sure I could make it to the finish without stopping. I decided if I saw a vacant porta potty I'd stop. My thinking was that I'd rather have 6 miles to make up the time than 1 mile. Bad decision number 1: stopping when I didn't need to and wasting about 30 seconds. Bad decision number 2: I kept telling myself that I had 6 miles to make it up, but I tried to make it up immediately. I did miles 6, 7, 8 too fast, trying to get the average pace back down to 8:23. I knew it was the wrong thing to do but couldn't stop myself. I feel like I wore myself out and canceled out a strong finish.

10 and 11 were slightly slow. I saw the DW around mile 12. I was ready to ditch the sunglasses as they were really fogging up (seems worse on the Goodrs). I gesture wildly from a quarter mile away. She sees me and thinks I want a high 5, so I'm trying to hand her sunglasses as she's trying to slap them out of my hand. I'm glad to report the sunglasses survived. Mile 12 and 13, I tried to step on the gas but nothing happened, not even Prius gas. I could see the sub 1:50 slipping away. With about .5 miles to go, I could see that 1:51 and a PR was in danger so I did manage to find the gas petal and got across in 1:50:53. The finish line is in the Von Braun Center (big convention center) and they call out your name and hometown when you're about 50 feet from the finish. As usual, I give the volunteers a scare and they want me to go to the medical tent, but after a minute or 2 of hands on knees and huffing and puffing, I'm good. I rang the PR gong and moved to the food. They have a big spread but I passed on everything except chocolate milk. I found the DW at our prearranged meetup spot.

Bling: The shirt is a nice long sleeve tech shirt in a nice but unusual red-pink-coral color. We got an additional shirt at the finish. It doesn't do anything for me and will end up in my throwaway stash. The medal is nice and heavy and actually much nicer than the marathon medal.
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Post-race: We head back to the hotel, a 5 minute walk through an enclosed sky bridge. I cleanup (kind of) and we walk to the park for a celebratory lunch. There's a pizza place attached to the art museum with a heated patio. The course is slightly different this year, with the last mile being through the park, so the patio has a view of the race course.

The traditional post-race meal with runners in the background!

View attachment 459262

As we leave the restaurant, the sweepers go by (RC has a strict 6 hour limit). Little brooms instead of balloons. One of the sweepers look familiar. When we get back to the hotel, the sweepers get in the elevator with us. I realize why she is familiar. I asked if she paced the x:xx group 2 years ago and she says yes, so I get to thank her 2 years later for pacing me to a full PR! I decide I'm not ready to crash so we Lyft out to a military museum. Back at the hotel, I do finally get cleaned up (really this time) and crash. We walk to a place in town for dinner and I have 'tart flambee', which is a fancy name for pizza!

Sunday we do some touristy things: Space and Rocket Center (which the race runs though), the Botanical Gardens, and Bridge Street Town Center, a big downtown-y outdoor mall. I score a Trash Panda shirt for our nephew, who is a big baseball fan.

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Monday morning we had an uneventful trip back home. The cats had managed not to wreck the house and were happy to have their waitstaff back.

Conclusion (finally!): Monday morning I had the same feeling as leaving Marathon Weekend: relieved that it's over, but sad that it's over. Since I didn't make my 1:50 goal and the race seemed harder than I thought it was going to, I keep thinking of it as a disappointment. I have to keep reminding myself that this is a 'real' PR, beating a year and a half old PR that was on a wildly downhill course (2000 ft drop). I need to savor ringing the PR gong; this stuff doesn't get any easier as you get older. I don't know what's next for me. I need to decide if I want to take a crack at the 5 and 10K PRs. And I'll probably do the Tear Drop Half (that's the downhill course) to try and best this PR!

If you made it this far, thanks for reading. Not sure why I felt the need to be so long-winded.

Well done! Great recap!

One thing to consider next time is the "mileage overage". When I have a strict time goal, I usually subtract 3-5 seconds from the goal pace. So instead of 110 min / 13.11 miles, I would do 110 min / 13.2 miles. The "average pace" on your GPS is unlikely to be spot on to the course and using this slight correction will help get you under the strict time goal. I've got no doubt that if you can do this on this course, then you'll be able to do something far faster on a 152 ft per mile average drop course (if the quads can hang on).

 
One thing to consider next time is the "mileage overage".
Good advice! I show 13.26 for the race. I don't think I did that bad of a job of running the tangents. This has happened before at RC. I suspect there is some official measured, but unclear path to follow. If only they'd paint a blue line.

The (possibly) un-needed stop may have done me in, but I might have had a shot at it had I know the real +/-.

Just like 2 years ago, I couldn't have done it with out you. And I love that video: an interesting new twist on an old song.

Thank you,

Rocket Man 🚀
 
Rocket City Half Marathon Race/Trip Recap

This is going to be long-winded, so I'll start with the short version.

Bottom line up front: Great trip, great weather, OK race. 1:50:53, a PR!

Training: I replayed a DB 22 week marathon plan starting in July. I mostly stuck to it until I got derailed in October with too much racing and simulated racing. I could see I was not going to be in shape for the half marathon. I sent up the signal to get help.

View attachment 459250

@DopeyBadger responded immediately and put me on the right track. Just like running a marathon is not the same as running 2 halfs, training for a half using a full marathon plan is not twice as good. In the beginning of November, I morphed the full plan into a half plan based on DB's suggestions. My longest run ended up being 15 (twice). I felt ready for the race.

My history at Rocket City: I've run the RC full marathon 5 times. Of the 5, 2 were death marches and 4 were (at the time) PRs. 2012 was both. It was my second full and the one that got me hooked. RC is my favorite marathon due to the easy start/finish logistics, the course, and the city itself. They added a half a couple of years ago. I signed up this year on a whim.

Day before the race: RC is a 4.5 hour drive for us. The fastest route is down to Atlanta, up to Chattanooga, and down to Huntsville. I opted to skip Atlanta traffic and take the back roads. It rained the whole way, but I'd rather drive in the rain than run in it. We stayed at the race host hotel, Embassy Suites. The 2 room setup works perfectly for early morning race preparations without waking the DW. I was bummed to find out that they no longer have a hot tub and the indoor pool was closed for maintenance.

The expo is fairly small and not crowded. I picked up a couple of gels and a free do-rag. The actual finish line is in the middle of the expo, so it's nice that you can set a meetup spot. As we're leaving the expo, Elton John's Rocket Man comes on. Rocket Man is DW's nickname for me, mostly due to running RC so many times. I need to throw away a paper towel. I start to walk toward the trashcan but stop and throw a 15 foot jump shot. It hits the rim and goes in. I take this as a good omen.

Our pre-race dinner was at the City Cafe Diner, one of the few restaurants I know of where you can chose from pasta, pancakes, potatoes, and perogies (do all high carb foods start with 'P'?). I had pancakes and 'naked' perogies (boiled, not fried, no butter and onions). I know some people think perogies are weird, but with my Pittsburgh roots, I think they are the perfect carb-loading food. After dinner, we walked through the park (right next door to the hotel) to see the 'Tinsel Trail', 300 decorated trees lining the pathways. We returned to the hotel and I laid out 'Flat OSGG' and called it a night.

At the expo:
View attachment 459146

Tinsel Trail:
View attachment 459147

Pre-race: The half starts at 9AM, exactly 2 hours after the full. I got up around 5 even though it wasn't necessary; it's just what I do on race day. I hung out in the hotel lobby and talked running with the other runners. I talked to a guy from Knoxville trying to break 4 for the first time (he didn't) and a guy from Oxford Mississippi trying to BQ (he did). I'm usually pretty shy, but race morning brings out my social side. I had breakfast at the hotel buffet, a couple of bagels with PB&J and a small helping of fried potatoes. The weather was around 45 degrees and cloudy, but no rain. A little warmer than I prefer, but not bad. I opted for compression shorts, tank top, Goodr sunglasses and throw-away gloves, sock arm-warmers, do rag, and trash bag bummed from the hotel cleaning staff.

I like to think I looked like a rock star, but it could be a hobo that found a pair of sunglasses.

View attachment 459151

Race: The start was 2 blocks from the hotel. I walked over with a woman from Memphis trying to break 1:55 (she did). I jogged for 10 minutes and stretched a little. I ate half a banana and 3/4 of a gel. I ditched the garbage bag before the start. I'm not a nervous racer and today was no difference. The gun goes off and I do what I trained for. I tell myself this is no different than a usual Saturday long run, except there's a big clock at the end. My goal was to break 1:50, an 8:23 pace. I manage my pace by monitoring average pace and lap pace with half mile auto laps. Here's what happened. This is based on the auto laps. I believe based on the mile markers, the pace was slightly slower.
View attachment 459253

I went out a little fast, but not drastically so. Mile 4 and 5 were right on the money.

At mile 6 I made a bad decision and then compounded it. I didn't have to pee, but wasn't sure I could make it to the finish without stopping. I decided if I saw a vacant porta potty I'd stop. My thinking was that I'd rather have 6 miles to make up the time than 1 mile. Bad decision number 1: stopping when I didn't need to and wasting about 30 seconds. Bad decision number 2: I kept telling myself that I had 6 miles to make it up, but I tried to make it up immediately. I did miles 6, 7, 8 too fast, trying to get the average pace back down to 8:23. I knew it was the wrong thing to do but couldn't stop myself. I feel like I wore myself out and canceled out a strong finish.

10 and 11 were slightly slow. I saw the DW around mile 12. I was ready to ditch the sunglasses as they were really fogging up (seems worse on the Goodrs). I gesture wildly from a quarter mile away. She sees me and thinks I want a high 5, so I'm trying to hand her sunglasses as she's trying to slap them out of my hand. I'm glad to report the sunglasses survived. Mile 12 and 13, I tried to step on the gas but nothing happened, not even Prius gas. I could see the sub 1:50 slipping away. With about .5 miles to go, I could see that 1:51 and a PR was in danger so I did manage to find the gas petal and got across in 1:50:53. The finish line is in the Von Braun Center (big convention center) and they call out your name and hometown when you're about 50 feet from the finish. As usual, I give the volunteers a scare and they want me to go to the medical tent, but after a minute or 2 of hands on knees and huffing and puffing, I'm good. I rang the PR gong and moved to the food. They have a big spread but I passed on everything except chocolate milk. I found the DW at our prearranged meetup spot.

Bling: The shirt is a nice long sleeve tech shirt in a nice but unusual red-pink-coral color. We got an additional shirt at the finish. It doesn't do anything for me and will end up in my throwaway stash. The medal is nice and heavy and actually much nicer than the marathon medal.
View attachment 459282View attachment 459281


Post-race: We head back to the hotel, a 5 minute walk through an enclosed sky bridge. I cleanup (kind of) and we walk to the park for a celebratory lunch. There's a pizza place attached to the art museum with a heated patio. The course is slightly different this year, with the last mile being through the park, so the patio has a view of the race course.

The traditional post-race meal with runners in the background!

View attachment 459262

As we leave the restaurant, the sweepers go by (RC has a strict 6 hour limit). Little brooms instead of balloons. One of the sweepers look familiar. When we get back to the hotel, the sweepers get in the elevator with us. I realize why she is familiar. I asked if she paced the x:xx group 2 years ago and she says yes, so I get to thank her 2 years later for pacing me to a full PR! I decide I'm not ready to crash so we Lyft out to a military museum. Back at the hotel, I do finally get cleaned up (really this time) and crash. We walk to a place in town for dinner and I have 'tart flambee', which is a fancy name for pizza!

Sunday we do some touristy things: Space and Rocket Center (which the race runs though), the Botanical Gardens, and Bridge Street Town Center, a big downtown-y outdoor mall. I score a Trash Panda shirt for our nephew, who is a big baseball fan.

View attachment 459288

Monday morning we had an uneventful trip back home. The cats had managed not to wreck the house and were happy to have their waitstaff back.

Conclusion (finally!): Monday morning I had the same feeling as leaving Marathon Weekend: relieved that it's over, but sad that it's over. Since I didn't make my 1:50 goal and the race seemed harder than I thought it was going to, I keep thinking of it as a disappointment. I have to keep reminding myself that this is a 'real' PR, beating a year and a half old PR that was on a wildly downhill course (2000 ft drop). I need to savor ringing the PR gong; this stuff doesn't get any easier as you get older. I don't know what's next for me. I need to decide if I want to take a crack at the 5 and 10K PRs. And I'll probably do the Tear Drop Half (that's the downhill course) to try and best this PR!

If you made it this far, thanks for reading. Not sure why I felt the need to be so long-winded.

Congrats! Loved the recap, maybe one day I'll make it to this race because it looks like a good one and is not too far away (about 4 hours).
 
Congrats! Loved the recap, maybe one day I'll make it to this race because it looks like a good one and is not too far away (about 4 hours).

I highly recommend both the half and the full. Both are a good PR course and then you can tack Marathon Weekend onto the training.

Speaking of traveling for races, when are you going to make it to Atlanta to run with @garneska and @Disney at Heart and me? 8-) (still got my Goodrs on)
 
I highly recommend both the half and the full. Both are a good PR course and then you can tack Marathon Weekend onto the training.

Speaking of traveling for races, when are you going to make it to Atlanta to run with @garneska and @Disney at Heart and me? 8-) (still got my Goodrs on)

Well I was going to come up for the Olympic trials and then run Publix the next day, but my friend decided to get married in Mississippi that weekend so that is out now. What other races would you recommend?? Y'all could always come down to Albany and run Snickers in March, I am 95% sure I will be there!
 
DALLAS WEEKEND SERIES RECAP

This past weekend was the Dallas Marathon weekend. They had a one mile fun run Friday night and then had a 5K and 10K on Saturday, and then the Half, Full and Ultra marathons on Sunday. The 10k and 5k start 15 minutes apart and have no corrals, but the Sunday races all start at the same time and there are four corrals. I chose to do the Weekend Series this year, which is one race Saturday and one Sunday, since it's about a month before Dopey and I thought it would be a good test of where I was, so I did the 10k and Half Marathon challenge. My plan for Dopey is to take the early, shorter distances easy, then run the half at my regular intervals through Mile 9 (past the Polynesian Resort at the WDW half) and then mostly walk the last four miles to have something left for the marathon. I also signed up for their VIP tent for the weekend. It's a heated tent with food pre and post race and guaranteed access to Corral A for the half. I normally wouldn't have bought it but I was flying to Disney World that afternoon and wanted to be in the first corral so I knew I'd have time to finish, get home and be able to get to the airport on time. I figured that a 10k, half and two full days of walking around Disney parks would be a good training weekend for me.

The weekend is often very cold, but this year wasn't bad. The temperature Saturday morning was about 45 degrees and the 10k starts at 9 AM, so the sun was out by race time. It wasn't a huge field for the 10k. I usually start towards the back of the corral since I'm not a fast runner. My plan was to run my intervals for the 5k and then walk the rest. Granted, my training was horrible for the marathon last year, but my time was over 14 minutes per mile for the first 3 miles. This course was mostly flat, with a bit of a downhill near the Kennedy memorial, and I felt really good. I was running at 12:42 per mile through the 5k and actually felt like I could have gone faster. I made myself walk (with a little more running here and there) for the last half of it and finished at 13:32 per mile and felt probably the best I've ever felt during a race.

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The day was already good enough but a local theater had a screening that night of Christmas Vacation with Q & A afterward with Chevy Chase. I've been a fan of his for years so I didn't want to miss getting to see him live. He's 75 now and his mind is sharp and he was hilarious with all of his stories from Saturday Night Live and all of his movies. His wife moderated the questions and so she could remind him along the way. I didn't realize he was a runner, but he said he'd run 10 miles a day. He was making jokes about the camera angle being unflattering and showing his double chin in all its glory on the big screen and his wife told him she'd get him on a treadmill when they got home. He looked at her, rolled his eyes and said "Oh yes, because there's nothing more refreshing than an indoor run."

Sunday morning was overcast, but was 10 degrees warmer than Saturday. I got to the VIP lounge before the race but was not going to tempt fate by eating breakfast burritos before a half marathon. I stuck with my granola bar and water. I met some nice people at the table I was at. Most were also doing the half marathon and one was doing the full. Most of them had been in the lottery for Chicago and it was about 50/50 for being accepted. A couple of women are doing Disney World next month, one of them does all of the races, so she was showing me pictures of Wine and Dine. So the time passed quickly. I started at the back end of Corral A to not block the faster runners. The races started at 8:30 with Corral A. My time last year at Disney through the half was 15:37, so basically, as long as I finished, it would be a PR. The course was pretty similar for the first couple of miles and then it was pretty nice because it went through the neighborhoods near where I live and where I've been running, so it was familiar for the next several miles.
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The spectators were great along the route, some of them had donut holes right after mile 5 and then the Denton Running Club had Oreos (a couple of them do Disney races and we talked about the importance of Oreos and running), then there were whisky and jello shots around mile 9 (didn't touch the whisky at that point, but I might have had some jello). All of the runners have the same course until Mile 9 and then the full and ultra runners branch off and the half marathon heads back towards downtown. I felt very good again on the course and my running pace was at 12:51 per mile, which was nearly 3 minutes faster than Disney last year, so I was happy. I stuck to my plan and walked starting at Mile 9, and finished at 13:58 per mile, and again felt very good after the race and knew that I could have gone faster. So a big shout out to @DopeyBadger for the help with the training plan this year. The course was pretty fast and more interesting than I thought it would be. Plus doing the two race Weekend Series, we got a special medal and a jacket. And I was able to get to the airport in time and get a quick 2 day trip to Disney World to see the holiday decorations! (working on the trip report now: https://www.disboards.com/threads/disney-world-christmas-in-2-days.3782783/)
 
@OldSlowGoofyGuy great recap. I know bert would love to do that race, so we might be in one of these years. He is a big space nut.

@KSellers88 and @Disney at Heart i really enjoyed the 10 miler. Of course in 2020 Peachtree is on a Saturday. Kristin I can sign you up without joining the track club.

OSGG, the Olympic trials I think starts around noon. Wanna take a road trip down to atlanta to cheer? You can park at my place we are two blocks from the course.
 
OSGG, the Olympic trials I think starts around noon. Wanna take a road trip down to atlanta to cheer?

Need to look at the calendar. Is it the same weekend as the stupid hilly grocery store half marathon? (You see where I'm going here...)

In February I need to juggle my birthday ♥ (hint as to when it is), some (hopefully) fast 5/10Ks and (Don Henley drum roll...) tickets to the Eagles Hotel California Tour.

I hope I have not exceeded my one post parenthesis allotment.
 
Hi all, has anyone done the NY half marathon? Got through the ballot and travelling over from the UK in March, just wondered what the course is like?

Hi!! As @DopeyBadger mentioned, I've run this race. Twice. It's my favorite half.
The course is definitely not easy. There are a number of hills, including some at the very end when you get into Central Park (although they took out the worst of the Central Park hills when they changed the course for this year's race). I find the Manhattan Bridge (going from Brooklyn to Manhattan) to be the hardest part. 42nd Street goes on forever. Running through Times Square is surprisingly fun, and has a lot of spectators.
It's a crowded course and the start area was a hot mess this year, so definitely pack your patience. It's a lot of fun though, and I've run it twice and would be running it a third time if only I had gotten in. The last few years have been pretty cold, though (either at or just below freezing), so layers are important.
Not sure what else you need to know ... I'm always bad at talking about these things. If you have any specific questions, ask away and I'll answer them to the best of my ability.

Have fun!
 
Need to look at the calendar. Is it the same weekend as the stupid hilly grocery store half marathon? (You see where I'm going here...)

yes it is the same weekend. Trials are on Saturday, the half or full on Sunday. Are you running the half? I am not and no intention to, but if you are running will meet for beer, food and come cheer.

In February I need to juggle my birthday ♥ (hint as to when it is), some (hopefully) fast 5/10Ks and (Don Henley drum roll...) tickets to the Eagles Hotel California Tour.

I think I know when your birthday is. Hm eagles concert, here in Atlanta?
 
Hi!! As @DopeyBadger mentioned, I've run this race. Twice. It's my favorite half.
The course is definitely not easy. There are a number of hills, including some at the very end when you get into Central Park (although they took out the worst of the Central Park hills when they changed the course for this year's race). I find the Manhattan Bridge (going from Brooklyn to Manhattan) to be the hardest part. 42nd Street goes on forever. Running through Times Square is surprisingly fun, and has a lot of spectators.
It's a crowded course and the start area was a hot mess this year, so definitely pack your patience. It's a lot of fun though, and I've run it twice and would be running it a third time if only I had gotten in. The last few years have been pretty cold, though (either at or just below freezing), so layers are important.
Not sure what else you need to know ... I'm always bad at talking about these things. If you have any specific questions, ask away and I'll answer them to the best of my ability.

Have fun!
thank you Sarah :) really appreciate your response! Hadn't thought about the weather, always assume the US is Florida weather haha

I had better start hill running
 
I did a not-so quick recap of the Kiawah Island half from this past weekend on my training journal, but for those who don't want to read my long winded report... :rotfl:

Spoiler alert: I set a PR of 1:47:09! A one minute and 28 second reduction from my last half PR in April 2018. Highly recommend this race for anyone looking for a fast, flat course with good race logistics. Only downside is the number of turns on the course.

Kiawah Island Half Race Recap
 

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